Permanent lockdown or permanent solitary?

[Sandman]

I got a prisoner who is legendary and can kill in one hit. He gets blasted with a shotgun and he just goes unconscious. Doesn't die. He routinely tears the hell out of his cell. Right now I've got him in permanent solitary in his own cell with a shower etc so he doesn't have to leave the cell. Food is brought to him, but he's always complaining about clothing.

If I switch this to permanent lockdown and make this area his "cell" and not solitary, what changes? Will he get the clothing need met? Is there anything different?

I obviously have him designated as supermax, but I don't let him out of his cell and I have an armed guard in the hallway at all times.

[Dodsmania]

Check you laundry is working

[Sperber]

Originally posted by Dodsmania:

Check you laundry is working

Unnecessary. He is in permanent solitary.

Originally posted by Sandman:

If I switch this to permanent lockdown and make this area his "cell" and not solitary, what changes? Will he get the clothing need met? Is there anything different?

As far as I know, the level of suppression is different. Permanent lockdown should also add some suppression to a prisoner but obviously not as much as solitary. Check if your prisoner has that nasty trait, that lets him ignore suppression (stoic, I believe?). If he has it makes pretty much no difference whether you put him in perm. lockdown or solitary.

Now if you want to satisfy his clothing need you have two options: as you said, you could put him in perm. lockdown, which would indeed give him the opportunity to receive fresh clothing or you could add a bed to his solitary cell. I never tried it, but if you are able to add the solitary cell to your laundry distribution system, via logistics, a janitor should deliver new clothes sooner or later.

As I've said, I never tried that, but it is worth a shot. Well, only if he isn't stoic. In that case you might just put him back in a normal cell.

[RTG]

Originally posted by Sperber:

Originally posted by Dodsmania:

Check you laundry is working

Unnecessary. He is in permanent solitary.

Originally posted by Sandman:

If I switch this to permanent lockdown and make this area his "cell" and not solitary, what changes? Will he get the clothing need met? Is there anything different?

As far as I know, the level of suppression is different. Permanent lockdown should also add some suppression to a prisoner but obviously not as much as solitary. Check if your prisoner has that nasty trait, that lets him ignore suppression (stoic, I believe?). If he has it makes pretty much no difference whether you put him in perm. lockdown or solitary.

Now if you want to satisfy his clothing need you have two options: as you said, you could put him in perm. lockdown, which would indeed give him the opportunity to receive fresh clothing or you could add a bed to his solitary cell. I never tried it, but if you are able to add the solitary cell to your laundry distribution system, via logistics, a janitor should deliver new clothes sooner or later.

As I've said, I never tried that, but it is worth a shot. Well, only if he isn't stoic. In that case you might just put him back in a normal cell.

It doesnt seem to me that they deliver laundry to solitary cells. Cause im having the exact same situation.Hes mostly under control though, hes got a luxery solitary cell with a phone booth, prayer mat, weight bench, shower, bed, toilet, tv and chair... So its only the clothing hes missing.

[Sandman]

I played around with it last night again and yeah, solitary gets no laundry it seems. Lockdown does. But for some reason, death row doesn't seem to get laundry. Either that or it's bugged.

For my supermax guy, not only was he stoic, but he would beat down his solitary door, bust it open, manage to kill an armed guard, and then get shot by the second armed guard before being hit with buckshot which only knocked him unconscious.

There needs to be a way to get food into the solitary cells without opening the door. Like in the SHU. That's when he would also seize the opportunity whenever the guard would come in with his food tray my supermax guy would go nuts and wreck the place.

Also, I found out that someone in lockdown can have their spirituality needs met if you put a prayer rug on the floor. But the same guy had a literacy need but would never use his bookshelf for some reason.

[-Fields-]

last I know bookshelves dont actually work, well not the small ones, they need to go libray, however I have seen a mod that makes them work, not sure if it connected to library or not though

[Sperber]

Originally posted by Sandman:

I played around with it last night again and yeah, solitary gets no laundry it seems. Lockdown does. But for some reason, death row doesn't seem to get laundry. Either that or it's bugged.

Yeah, I just tested solitary laundry too and I was wrong. As I said I never tried it before, but it could have worked. Oh welll...

Death row has to be added to the laundry distribution in logistics manually. The game won't do that for you automatically, like it does with all other cell blocks, holding cells or reception. It took some time, but at some point my janitors started to deliver uniforms to death row. At least here I am sure that it does indeed work.

Originally posted by Sandman:

There needs to be a way to get food into the solitary cells without opening the door. Like in the SHU. That's when he would also seize the opportunity whenever the guard would come in with his food tray my supermax guy would go nuts and wreck the place.

I believe someone made a mod for that. There are in fact several mods to deliver food to cells, but they were created before Introversion themselves added the feature, so I am not sure if they are up to date. I agree, this should be in the final game, but if here is a still functioning mod, you could at least try that.

Originally posted by Sandman:

Also, I found out that someone in lockdown can have their spirituality needs met if you put a prayer rug on the floor. But the same guy had a literacy need but would never use his bookshelf for some reason.

Bookshelves don't have any purpose right now. If you build them, they add nothing to literacy and are purely decorative, so you might as well just leave them out. Literacy and Freedom are the only needs that right now can't be satisfied for death row prisoners.

[Sandman]

Good info. I just bought the game during the 80% off sale. Do they add a lot of content pretty regularly?

[Sperber]

Originally posted by Sandman:

Good info. I just bought the game during the 80% off sale. Do they add a lot of content pretty regularly?

At the end of every month, the developers release a new alpha with new stuff and a nice, entertaining because very funny video to explain what has changed, even though that is not as detailed as the update notes, of course.

We had three months dedicated to bug bashes and I believe very early in development they had to skip a month, but that happened only once.

So, that have been 28 updates in 32 months and the next one is coming in a couple of days. I'd say that counts as pretty regularly. I'd also say that this is exemplary of how Early Access should be.