Fire came, how to clean?

[Dodo-Ukko]

How rubble and charred floor can be cleaned?

Note: replacing floor tiles does not (weirdly) remove the char from floor. Nor do janitors clean it up.

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=317930640

[Capt.Jamesbloke]

check out the mods section!

[CONAN_Fabrice]

Rubble will be removed by workers.
Regarding the char, can't say for sure, didn't have a fire yet (good for me), but if you go on some layers (I think the materials will do), if you can see some empty white square on them, a janitor will take care of it.

[Dodo-Ukko]

Originally posted by alan.altair:

check out the mods section!

Meh, no cheats.

[Evilnapkin]

Originally posted by CONAN_Fabrice:

Rubble will be removed by workers.

Not always. A lot of the time, rubble left behind by fire is stuck on the terrain. I've had it permanently mess up doors which led to escapes. It's a pretty major glitch. Same thing goes for "object_foodwaste" - sometimes it gets cleaned up, sometimes it's stuck on the terrain or in doors, leading to escapes.

OP, you *can* kind of fix this by opening your save file, searching for every line that has "rubble" in it, and deleting it. It'll look like this:

BEGIN lkjasdlkfjsdflkjsdaflkjfdslasjdfsdaf OBJECT lkjasdflkjasdflkjsdafljakdsf END

Delete each section from "BEGIN" to "END" so the line is completely erased. There'll be several entries, I suggest making a second save to test this with in case it messes up your save file (because you never know).

[Dodo-Ukko]

You can use the terrain cleaner or whatever the tool is called, but it deletes everything, walls, toilets, beds... everything. So after fire if there is disturbing amount of Rubble on everything you have to be ready to delete everything around it also...

Kinda on topic (not really) but I just love the workers always leaving their stuff between doors without care http://steamcommunity.com/id/Valomaki/screenshot/538502012805850672

[blipadouzi]

You know, many are complaining about this being a bug, but this isn't an unrealistic way of cleaning fire debris. After a fire, a building/room is pretty much totally detroyed, even the foundations have to be redone. The cheapest and easiest way to do this is to just demolish everything and start again. Speaking in terms of real life.

From a prison perspective, it's not unreasonable how the game acts either... boards and plaster lying everywhere, doors blocked open or closed... an entire wing might need to be shutdown while the clean-up takes place.

I agree it's a security hazard, and it makes things a lot harder... but that's the way it would be in a real prison. You need to figure out a way to make that section secure while the repairs are going on.

[Pyr0]

I didn't even know how to stop the fire, using my sim city tactics I bulldozed everything infront of the fire. But it kept going!!! Didn't know I could call emergency firemen till later. Heres the pic. LOL. http://postimg.org/image/euk8s8itb/

[Trip Fisk]

Originally posted by blipadouzi:

You know, many are complaining about this being a bug, but this isn't an unrealistic way of cleaning fire debris. After a fire, a building/room is pretty much totally detroyed, even the foundations have to be redone.

don't use that lame sophistry. There's a bug with rubble that needs fixing. After a fire, the little magical fairy builder guys repair the damage in an unrealistically short time but leave behind a lot of rubble they never clean up. They ignore easy to grab out in the open stuff. Worse, they ignore problem rubble that prevent jail doors from closing.

it also helps a lot that the prisoners are curteous enough to report back to their charred burnt out busted up cells (that shouldn't be considered cells anymore) and use them normally though!

[Dodo-Ukko]

I understand blipadouzi, but there is still little rubble that wont go away even after complete renovation. That's not realism... Realism would be placing a phone call and guys would come take care of it as long you pay them. Now the tool you use is so clumsy you have to delete just all and even that might not be enough and some rubble or food waste (yes that's another thing you cant remove and it doesn't allow doors to close).

[blipadouzi]

I didn't know about the rubble after total destruction glitch. I haven't had a fire in any of my prisons since Alpha 17. So I haven't had to deal with that in a while.

[blipadouzi]

I just remembered... there is a fix for this in the Workshop.

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=314638821

[Dodo-Ukko]

Originally posted by blipadouzi:

I just remembered... there is a fix for this in the Workshop.

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=314638821

Thanks blip. :)

[BT-Jaylex]

I dont know about rubble, but the "ash" is a floor type. Just reapply whatever floor you had (ie: concrete floor).

[Frazzledragøn the Trustworthy]

Originally posted by Jack:

I dont know about rubble, but the "ash" is a floor type. Just reapply whatever floor you had (ie: concrete floor).

Originally posted by Valomäki:

Note: replacing floor tiles does not (weirdly) remove the char from floor. Nor do janitors clean it up.

[veryinky]

Replacing the "ash" floors with the correct concrete/tile/wood floors has never failed to remove the charred floor look for me and I've had several fires.