Problem with teacher?

[Macho Man JC]

I have had this same problem come across in another problem after the Alpha 29 patch, before said patch I hadn't experienced this problem without being able to fix it.

The problem consists of scheduling the Foundations Education program (schedules just fine), in which my teacher will enter their classroom, while "teaching", but after they get to their desk they suddenly stop teaching. I have sold my first prison and started a new prison to see if this problem persisted: it did.

What I've tried to fix this problem:

- Scheduling the program for a different time (this worked when my guards weren't doing the taser program)
- Building a new prison (because that is a quick and simple fix)
- Building classroom closer to teacher's path (so that they can get to the classroom quicker)

What I plan on trying next:

- Having multiple classrooms
- Setting multiple time slots to have multiple classes going on throughout the day
- Different size classrooms

Is anyone else having this problem or has found a new solution? If necessary I can post up my current save for people to try out.

[Harmonica]

I can't even get a teacher to show up for that class, let alone teach it.

Having a work period of 3 hours is not a fix if it ever was one. At any rate, the game is meant to be able to do classes piecemeal for smaller work periods.

[Emmote]

Originally posted by Harmonica:

I can't even get a teacher to show up for that class, let alone teach it.

Having a work period of 3 hours is not a fix if it ever was one. At any rate, the game is meant to be able to do classes piecemeal for smaller work periods.

Teaching classes requires 3 consecutive hours. It's not optional.

As for OP, I really don't know. Does the class have any willing prisoners wanting to learn? Could be that the teacher just doesn't bother as nobody wants to go? (I don't think this is it, but I suppose it could be).
Is the classroom a specific Security type in deployment? Could it be that you've made it Staff Only, or MinSec when you don't have any MinSec prisoners, for example? Is the path to the classroom pathable for the security type prisoners you want turning up? etc..

I'm grasping at straws here really. No idea what it is.

[Harmonica]

I set the work periods to three hours and ran the game for a few days, it didn't change anything, also I remember from the actual video where they introduced it, the classes could be cut short and they just resume later.

I think this 3 hours thing is either a bug which got added later or a perpetuated myth, but at any rate, it shouldn't really work like that.

[Emmote]

Originally posted by Harmonica:

I think this 3 hours thing is either a bug which got added later or a perpetuated myth, but at any rate, it shouldn't really work like that.

Classes don't get cut short. Each education program runs for a number of sessions (10 for foundation, 20 for general), each session lasts 3 hours (it says so on their tooltips!). At the end of the last session, your prisoners attending get examined and they pass or fail. Then the class restarts with different prisoners. It's not a myth and it wasn't added later. That's just how they work, end of.

[Harmonica]

From memory, in the video for that feature, they show that classes can be interupted, since Mark asks a question about it, and the inmates just resume learning from where they left off, but their grade suffers because they were taught for less time.

The restriction for needing a three hour block for them to even fire in the first place is too restrictive, which is not really IV style. That is why I think it's either a bug or if not it's something that will be adjusted.

Anyway, this bug doesn't seem to be controlled by allowing them in the regime. It just flashes 'NO TEACHER' (no other information).

[Emmote]

The prisoners can leave the classes or not turn up if they want to, because the classes are entirely optional, but for the classes to run, they DO require 3 hours and they will (or should incase of OP's problem) last for the 3 hours whether prisoners turn up or not, and that's exactly part of the game, requiring you to manage the regime efficiently while also reforming your prisoners.

The No Teacher error is usually caused by not having a properly furnished classroom or that it is impossible to get to, among other possibilities.

[Harmonica]

Managing the regime is of course a cool part of the game, but given the prisoners need to sleep for say 8 hours, shower for an hour, and eat for at least two hours, that only gives you 13 hours to parcel up for free time and work, which has to be segmented by eating and showering.

If indeed a work period has to be three hours to even trigger a class visit, that means that the regime becomes pretty much entirely prescribed and won't vary much per player.

I am going to assume that in the future, lengths of lessons will be adjustable, meaning the 3 hour minimum window will go away.

[Proteus]

Unless it changed with the last vrsion, 6 hours of sleep should be enough for everyone ;)

[Harmonica]

I like to be generous though :)

[Macho Man JC]

Originally posted by Emmote:

As for OP, I really don't know. Does the class have any willing prisoners wanting to learn? Could be that the teacher just doesn't bother as nobody wants to go? (I don't think this is it, but I suppose it could be).
Is the classroom a specific Security type in deployment? Could it be that you've made it Staff Only, or MinSec when you don't have any MinSec prisoners, for example? Is the path to the classroom pathable for the security type prisoners you want turning up? etc..

I'm grasping at straws here really. No idea what it is.

In my first prison I had two different classrooms: one was "open" in the deployment while the other was "max only" (because those max prisoners were ANGRY). I didn't have a class go on in the "max only" classroom given that there weren't enough prisoners (only one) that wanted to learn, so I had the other classroom (which had roughly 16... 17 prisoners interested) scheduled. The action that would occur, which is the same with my second prison that I had sense built, are the same:

1. The regime enters the "work" slot, which is 3 hours.
2. Prisoners head to their appropriate locations, which includes the prisoners interested in the course.
3. The teacher is seen entering the prison, "teaching" as they walk.
4. The teacher enters the classroom, still teaching, walks to their desk... and then stops teaching.

From that point everyone is just sitting around, the prisoners just in their little desks and the teacher staring at them... when the regime slot has ended then everyone gets up and leaves.