on holding cells

[simone.medusa]

I have a lot of holding cells still free, but my guards keep putting prisoners in h.cells already full, like cells with 5 bed and 7 prisoners.

Am I missing something? Do I have to manually put prisoners during the intake?

Thanks wardens!

[Mansen]

Holding cells are temporary holding - Not suited for permanent cell usage.

So yes - That's what you're missing.

[oskr13 - keep_on]

Originally posted by Mansen:

Holding cells are temporary holding - Not suited for permanent cell usage.

So yes - That's what you're missing.

That said, prisoners should go to sleep in a bed if there are any available in another holding cells, even if they all wander around a single one in free time...

To be sure to understand well, when you say holding cells free" do you mean with beds that prisoners never use?

If so, then check your deployment screen because they should use all the beds available when sleep time comes up

[Mansen]

Originally posted by oskr13 - keep_on:

That said, prisoners should go to sleep in a bed if there are any available in another holding cells, even if they all wander around a single one in free time...

Again you're assuming the game even handles multiple holding cells properly - Which it doesn't. Holding cells are designed for temporary holding, sitting on a bench; not sleeping for days.

[simone.medusa]

Originally posted by Mansen:

Holding cells are temporary holding - Not suited for permanent cell usage.

So yes - That's what you're missing.

ah ok, i was just experimenting with them

Originally posted by oskr13 - keep_on:

Originally posted by Mansen:

Holding cells are temporary holding - Not suited for permanent cell usage.

So yes - That's what you're missing.

That said, prisoners should go to sleep in a bed if there are any available in another holding cells, even if they all wander around a single one in free time...

To be sure to understand well, when you say holding cells free" do you mean with beds that prisoners never use?

If so, then check your deployment screen because they should use all the beds available when sleep time comes up

deployment is correct, that was the first thing i checked

thanks guys!

[oskr13 - keep_on]

Originally posted by Mansen:

Originally posted by oskr13 - keep_on:

That said, prisoners should go to sleep in a bed if there are any available in another holding cells, even if they all wander around a single one in free time...

Again you're assuming the game even handles multiple holding cells properly - Which it doesn't. Holding cells are designed for temporary holding, sitting on a bench; not sleeping for days.

Are you sure it won't work?
I have seen some prisons and players trying to work properly with only holdings cells (big ones).
Even if there might be some issues with guard only escorting prisoners to one holdings cells, or prisoners using only one during free time or so... but I think they will use beds... I will try that next play

[Bloempje]

In my prison I have 3 working holding cells, but the act as temporary cells for large groups of prisoners. They don't go out to eat, guards bring the food to them. A few hours ago I had an "accident" and I had about 50 max prisoners die in holding cells.

So to answer your question. Guards put prisoners in holding cells when there are no normal cells for them. Don't expect the holding cell to work as a normal cell because it doesn't.

[Jirodyne]

Originally posted by Bloempje:

In my prison I have 3 working holding cells, but the act as temporary cells for large groups of prisoners. They don't go out to eat, guards bring the food to them. A few hours ago I had an "accident" and I had about 50 max prisoners die in holding cells.

So to answer your question. Guards put prisoners in holding cells when there are no normal cells for them. Don't expect the holding cell to work as a normal cell because it doesn't.

Indeed. It even says so on the Room's Tooltip that it's to hold Prisoners they couldn't find a Cell for. So it's a last resort, for if your building Cells but still want the prisoners, or get extra prisoners by accident and forgot to take off the intake.

And they WILL sleep if you place a bed in them for each prisoner in it. But it's not as good as a normal cell usually. Prisoners don't like sharing things, and usually Shank people they spend a lot of time with.

The only time really I could see having Multiple Holding Cells, is when you have the groups Split up, keep Min/Med away from Max/SuperMax Or however you split of your prison into sections. But other than that, really don't see a reason to waste the time and money, when you can just make multiple 2x3 Cells for them somewhat cheaply. Or even more in smaller Cells if you have it unlocked.

[CloudSeeker]

The reason they are put in the holding cells are most likely because theirs is no cells they can be in. In this case I think room quality might be your problem. Have you filled the cells with good stuff like a TV, window, shower, weight bench a big cell and soo on? If you have it is most likely that your prisoners are not entitiled to the cells and goes to the holding cell until they are.

[Jirodyne]

Originally posted by CloudSeeker:

The reason they are put in the holding cells are most likely because theirs is no cells they can be in. In this case I think room quality might be your problem. Have you filled the cells with good stuff like a TV, window, shower, weight bench a big cell and soo on? If you have it is most likely that your prisoners are not entitiled to the cells and goes to the holding cell until they are.

Don't think it works that way. I thought it worked that everyone gets the Cell that are Adverage. Then those that cause problems get lower Quality Cells. When they are filled but prisoners are still doing bad, those in Adverage cells get pushed up higher, then those in Lower quality get pushed to Adverage and the new bad problem causers get the newly opened Lower Quality Cell?

[Trixi]

you can reassign manually your prisoners to another cell/holding cell by selecting him and right click at another cell/holding cell.

[Münster Mike]

Or you can give them an hour of free time late at night and they'll sort themselves out. Everyone will stay asleep and those who want to sleep will seek out a bed.

[Battleseed]

Originally posted by 2.FJgJank-Hgf.:

Or you can give them an hour of free time late at night and they'll sort themselves out. Everyone will stay asleep and those who want to sleep will seek out a bed.

^This, cuz micro managing them 1 at time to fix the mess the guards make was too much of a pain.

Did a 1k inmate prison with 6 large holding cells instead of individual ones. The guards do not care if there are no available beds in the holding cells, they put them in whatever holding cell they choose. They even ignore when the holding cells are set for a security levels. Eg: Putting max sec in to protected holding cells. The inmates will leave the holding cell if they were put in the wrong one and move to the right one if they have the available path but that still does not address the "is there a place for them to sleep in the cell they go to" problem. Free time will. If they are sleepy they will seek out an available bed.

[Jirodyne]

Originally posted by Battleseed:

but that still does not address the "is there a place for them to sleep in the cell they go to" problem. Free time will. If they are sleepy they will seek out an available bed.

That's not a problem tho? Cells require a bed, if it doesn't have one, it's not a Cell... If you're talking about Holding Cells, a bed is NOT required. You, the creator, desided to place a bed in there for Prisoners. But it is not required and the staff and prisoners don't give a ♥♥♥♥ if there is a bed there or not except to sleep. The Holding Cells will still be full of Prisoners, Beds or not. YOU have to manually add in as many beds as there are Prisoners.

This is why Holding Cells are TEMPERARY, and not Perminate!

[Battleseed]

Originally posted by RainbowDashC22:

Originally posted by Battleseed:

but that still does not address the "is there a place for them to sleep in the cell they go to" problem. Free time will. If they are sleepy they will seek out an available bed.

That's not a problem tho? Cells require a bed, if it doesn't have one, it's not a Cell... If you're talking about Holding Cells, a bed is NOT required. You, the creator, desided to place a bed in there for Prisoners. But it is not required and the staff and prisoners don't give a ♥♥♥♥ if there is a bed there or not except to sleep. The Holding Cells will still be full of Prisoners, Beds or not. YOU have to manually add in as many beds as there are Prisoners.

This is why Holding Cells are TEMPERARY, and not Perminate!

Plz don't explaine how cell/holding cells works. You don't even own the game. Was telling the OP how he can resolve the issue he is having by using free time in regime. I'm not the one having the issue.

[simone.medusa]

Originally posted by 2.FJgJank-Hgf.:

Or you can give them an hour of free time late at night and they'll sort themselves out. Everyone will stay asleep and those who want to sleep will seek out a bed.

that's a great advice, thanks Jank!