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Ben Oct 9, 2015 @ 12:06am
"There are no canteens accessible by this cell"? Cannot start or play game :/
Whenever I try to start up a game, my holding cell always says "There are no canteens acessible by this cell. Prisoners in this cell will have nowhere to eat. http://i.imgur.com/X0GJq93.png as you can see there is a canteen LITERALLY two feet from the cell. I even tried connecting them, and that didn't work.

I really want to play this game, what do i do?

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Ben Oct 9, 2015 @ 12:07am 
http://i.imgur.com/PF4IWKk.png as a result, prisoners are stuck stationairy in the delivery and my game cannot be played.
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StinkyMonkey Oct 9, 2015 @ 12:23am 
I haven't played for a while but the red triangle over the canteen means its not "live" yet and has more requirements to be fufilled before it starts operating, I think. Check the canteen to see why that triangle is there, fix the issue and hopefully you should be ok.

edit: Could also be you have marked the area as not allowed for prisoners, if the red triangle thing is not the case.
Last edited by StinkyMonkey; Oct 9, 2015 @ 12:24am
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RDR Oct 9, 2015 @ 12:27am 
Originally posted by Ben:
Whenever I try to start up a game, my holding cell always says "There are no canteens acessible by this cell. Prisoners in this cell will have nowhere to eat. http://i.imgur.com/X0GJq93.png as you can see there is a canteen LITERALLY two feet from the cell. I even tried connecting them, and that didn't work.

I really want to play this game, what do i do?
As @stinkmonkey says your cantennt has a big red excalamtion mark on it which means it is not completed. Have you hired cooks for the kitchen ?

You may find the cantennt cannot but onto the kitchen like that. I am not sure. The red ! will tell you.

Remeber each room has speciifc requirements, in terms of size, equipment, location (ie indoors etc) and boundaries (inclosed or not) and of course workers.

The prisoners are all stuck becuase your holding cell has a red !, see what its problems is (might be the canteen, am not sure). Possibly is the size of it. Holding cell must be at least 5*5 IIRC. Your cell looks like its is 6*4. Its hard to tell from the picture.
Last edited by RDR; Oct 9, 2015 @ 12:31am
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Verloc Oct 9, 2015 @ 12:33am 
It looks like the area between the two buildings is open to the world. You need to enclose your prison, otherwise the prisoners won't be allowed outside their cell.
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Torham Oct 9, 2015 @ 12:50am 
Originally posted by Verloc:
It looks like the area between the two buildings is open to the world. You need to enclose your prison, otherwise the prisoners won't be allowed outside their cell.

I was just going to say this, looking at the pictures. Its a prison. It needs to keep the prisoners in. If the guards can see that the inmates can just run off, they will never let them out of the cell. A border fence running all around the complex is a very good idea. Even just a basic wire fence, which is very cheap to build .
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jhendriks87 Oct 9, 2015 @ 1:08am 
Make sure you have built the canteen etc with a foundation first. It kinda looks like you have just built walls. If that is not the case make your mouse hover over the red triangle, this will tell you what is wrong. And like others above have said make sure your prison is completely enclosed. Use the cheap fence to do this early game and you can upgrade it to perimeter walls later. EDIT: just took a look at the second picture you put up. You prison is definitly not enclosed and the prisoners will just be able to walk out which is why they are not allowed to use the canteen you built.
Last edited by jhendriks87; Oct 9, 2015 @ 1:12am
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R2 Oct 9, 2015 @ 1:35am 
u need a wall partition the kitchen and canteen..
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Trixi Oct 9, 2015 @ 2:16am 
Originally posted by R2:
u need a wall partition the kitchen and canteen..
Nope
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jhendriks87 Oct 9, 2015 @ 2:17am 
Originally posted by R2:
u need a wall partition the kitchen and canteen..
you dont HAVE to partition them, help with contriband control but you dont HAVE to.
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BugPowderDust Oct 9, 2015 @ 2:42am 
Originally posted by Torham:
Originally posted by Verloc:
It looks like the area between the two buildings is open to the world. You need to enclose your prison, otherwise the prisoners won't be allowed outside their cell.

I was just going to say this, looking at the pictures. Its a prison. It needs to keep the prisoners in. If the guards can see that the inmates can just run off, they will never let them out of the cell. A border fence running all around the complex is a very good idea. Even just a basic wire fence, which is very cheap to build .

Pretty sure this is the cause. I had the same issue when I was building before prisoners arrive. I hadn't put on a perimeter wall yet (as there were no prisoners), and I got the same message
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RDR Oct 9, 2015 @ 12:05pm 
Originally posted by Ben:
Whenever I try to start up a game, my holding cell always says "There are no canteens acessible by this cell. Prisoners in this cell will have nowhere to eat. http://i.imgur.com/X0GJq93.png as you can see there is a canteen LITERALLY two feet from the cell. I even tried connecting them, and that didn't work.

I really want to play this game, what do i do?
The picture you uploaded seem to suggest there is no foundation on your left hand wall. You have grass/flowers etc growing under it, which suggest IIRC that there is no foundation (ie the game thinks its outdoor tiles underneath it, instead of indoor tiles).

I could be wrong, but I would double check you have foundations. under those walls.
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Ben Oct 9, 2015 @ 4:29pm 
Originally posted by Dichotomy:
Originally posted by Ben:
Whenever I try to start up a game, my holding cell always says "There are no canteens acessible by this cell. Prisoners in this cell will have nowhere to eat. http://i.imgur.com/X0GJq93.png as you can see there is a canteen LITERALLY two feet from the cell. I even tried connecting them, and that didn't work.

I really want to play this game, what do i do?
As @stinkmonkey says your cantennt has a big red excalamtion mark on it which means it is not completed. Have you hired cooks for the kitchen ?

You may find the cantennt cannot but onto the kitchen like that. I am not sure. The red ! will tell you.

Remeber each room has speciifc requirements, in terms of size, equipment, location (ie indoors etc) and boundaries (inclosed or not) and of course workers.

The prisoners are all stuck becuase your holding cell has a red !, see what its problems is (might be the canteen, am not sure). Possibly is the size of it. Holding cell must be at least 5*5 IIRC. Your cell looks like its is 6*4. Its hard to tell from the picture.


Originally posted by Dichotomy:
Originally posted by Ben:
Whenever I try to start up a game, my holding cell always says "There are no canteens acessible by this cell. Prisoners in this cell will have nowhere to eat. http://i.imgur.com/X0GJq93.png as you can see there is a canteen LITERALLY two feet from the cell. I even tried connecting them, and that didn't work.

I really want to play this game, what do i do?
As @stinkmonkey says your cantennt has a big red excalamtion mark on it which means it is not completed. Have you hired cooks for the kitchen ?

You may find the cantennt cannot but onto the kitchen like that. I am not sure. The red ! will tell you.

Remeber each room has speciifc requirements, in terms of size, equipment, location (ie indoors etc) and boundaries (inclosed or not) and of course workers.

The prisoners are all stuck becuase your holding cell has a red !, see what its problems is (might be the canteen, am not sure). Possibly is the size of it. Holding cell must be at least 5*5 IIRC. Your cell looks like its is 6*4. Its hard to tell from the picture.

Yes I hired two cooks.

Both rooms are 6x10, you can count the blocks in the picture. I've followed all the requirements and bounderies. Any other Ideas?
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jhendriks87 Oct 9, 2015 @ 5:02pm 
You HAVE tried the other suggestions right? like completely enclosing your prison so that your prisoners can actually get to the canteen?
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Frazzledragøn the Trustworthy Oct 9, 2015 @ 5:03pm 
Give us an updated screenshot.
Also, just hit F12, then open the overlay or close the game to directly put them on Steam. Much easier.
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John Hadley Oct 9, 2015 @ 5:14pm 
You need to hold your mouse over the canteen and see why it has the exclamation mark. A kitchen doesn't need workers or water or power for its exclamation mark to go away and neither does a canteen.

If you build a canteen and a holding cell and they are not connected by an area fully enclosed by walls, doors, or fences then the prisoners are not allowed to walk to that canteen and the cell will have an exclamation mark but the canteen will not. I don't know if your canteen is in an enclosed area with the holding cell or not since you didn't show any of prison's external fences or walls in the screenshot.

In your case neither the canteen or the cell are operational so you probably don't have foundation everywhere under the walls in the canteen building. You probably built walls on top of dirt instead of on foundation.

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=532478175
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=532468986
Last edited by John Hadley; Oct 9, 2015 @ 5:41pm
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