Game Bible Pages: What am i missing?

[Perpetual_Retrospect]

I've recently come back to PA to put in some time on the full release version (played ~100+ hours of various alphas) and im trying to figure out how exactly the game bible pages work.

I've been slowing building up a new large sandbox prison, have about 25-30 hours play time (day 80ish in game, 150min, 150med, 150max prisoners) but have yet to have a SINGLE bible page drop, either in or outside of my prison.

Judging by what i've read the last ~18 Polaroids are unlocked via special "named" prisoners, so those are just a matter of wait and hope.

Anyone have any insight on how exactly the GB pages spawn/drop, or ideas why my prison may not be dropping them?

Thanks in advance!

[jasonharris2]

the pages come and go i had 7 in 1 day in game and 2 weeks with out seeing one

[SteddyNCC78339]

The "named prisoner" polaroids should drop when you import those specific prisoners in to your prison. But there is an even easier way to get them and the game bible pages quickly if you don't like the idea of waiting for pure chance or importing specific prisoners - via a file edit. I can provide instructions on what to do - just ask...

[Perpetual_Retrospect]

Originally posted by jasonharris2:

the pages come and go i had 7 in 1 day in game and 2 weeks with out seeing one

I'm left to assume my prison/map is bugged, played another 4-5 hours/10 game days and still not a single one.

Only thing i can think of is there is mention of them only spawning outside the prison and i tend to box my map off at the very edge (1 block), but there were several long periods during expansion when there were open areas outside the prison walls, and still no spawns.

Originally posted by SteddyNCC78339:

The "named prisoner" polaroids should drop when you import those specific prisoners in to your prison. But there is an even easier way to get them and the game bible pages quickly if you don't like the idea of waiting for pure chance or importing specific prisoners - via a file edit. I can provide instructions on what to do - just ask...

Yeah i considered it before even starting this last prison, but don't really need the achievements bad enough to want to have to 'cheat'/modify the game files to unlock them.

If there are supposedly 22,000+ names in the game, and only 18 drop polaroids, it will take AGES to get all of them, especially with how slow the game runs when prisons get large. I've released/paroled over 650 in the current prison and haven't gotten one yet.

Hopefully, like the recent Guard Tower/Wait and Hope glitch fix, they will eventually fix it so they drop/are able to be acquired in a reasonable way.

[SteddyNCC78339]

I think you actually have to import the specifically referenced prisoners through the Name in Game feature before their polaroids will drop but I am not sure as I was too impatient for the normal method so I edited to get them... They take faaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrr too long to drop (via the normal method) for my taste...

[Jet City Gambler]

Hmm, I don't buy the "7 in one day" claim, I've heard that one bible page generates every in-game day and it appears somewhere in or about your prison. They're easy to miss, just a little scrap of paper. I've managed to unlock 68 of them just by playing the game.

For the polariods, I've got no idea. Many of them seem to be event-specific (a riot in your Canteen, for example). Most are unlocked during the story mode. I've got 169 and looking for the last few.

[Perpetual_Retrospect]

Originally posted by SteddyNCC78339:

I think you actually have to import the specifically referenced prisoners through the Name in Game feature before their polaroids will drop but I am not sure as I was too impatient for the normal method so I edited to get them... They take faaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrr too long to drop (via the normal method) for my taste...

You are correct, i didn't realize you have to manually transfer (goofy way to do it) the correct people from the Name in Game menu for them to be brought to your prison.

Some names from the list i found weren't in game, but the 10 or so that were came to my prison and started dropping Polaroids over the next couple days, got another 8 or so, so now im only missing 9 of them.

[Phreya™]

Four of them have different name in the list
Karsten Thomas = Thomas Eaglebeak
Matthew Robertson = Alpine Maffu
Nikolas Federovich = Gabrieal Ackovna
Thomas Clarck = Tom Clark

Edit: here're some info about the polaroids that I know.
Kitchen polaroid appear when you set your meal quantity and variety to high
Solitary1 appear when there's a white guy in a solitary with one bed
Solitary2 appear when there's black guy in a blank solitary room
Recroom appear when you have a prisoners watching tv and playing billiard at the same time in the common room
And about the others, aside from the campaign mode polaroids, I don't really pay attention when they drop. I suppose they're easy to get since I get them early. But if you want to get them fast, you need to arrange your prison just like what the picture said.

Also it's easier to find game bibles on small map instead of large map like yours

[Perpetual_Retrospect]

Originally posted by Phreya:

Four of them have different name in the list
Karsten Thomas = Thomas Eaglebeak
Matthew Robertson = Alpine Maffu
Nikolas Federovich = Gabrieal Ackovna
Thomas Clarck = Tom Clark

Edit: here're some info about the polaroids that I know.
Kitchen polaroid appear when you set your meal quantity and variety to high
Solitary1 appear when there's a white guy in a solitary with one bed
Solitary2 appear when there's black guy in a blank solitary room
Recroom appear when you have a prisoners watching tv and playing billiard at the same time in the common room
And about the others, aside from the campaign mode polaroids, I don't really pay attention when they drop. I suppose they're easy to get since I get them early. But if you want to get them fast, you need to arrange your prison just like what the picture said.

Also it's easier to find game bibles on small map instead of large map like yours

Thanks for the info regarding the different names, much appreciated!

Apparently they decided to make the polaroid achievement some kind of ridiculous puzzle, because the average gamer is never gonna unlock it without a bunch of searching.

[Jet City Gambler]

Useful info @phreya, thanks.

[Phreya™]

Glad to hear that you found it useful :)

Originally posted by Perpetual_Retrospect:

Apparently they decided to make the polaroid achievement some kind of ridiculous puzzle, because the average gamer is never gonna unlock it without a bunch of searching.

Ikr, after all it's prison sim not hidden object sim.

Edit: spelling

[Perpetual_Retrospect]

Managed to get all of them expect 2, both of which i don't seem to be able to get to spawn.

The first one should have been one of the easiest to get, the "janitor" one, no matter what i do i can't seem to get it to drop.

The other is the first (of two) polaroids for Adrian Awyoung, got the second one but can't get the first to appear, he's been in my "named mini prison" for ~18 days and hasn't dropped it yet (even tried switching cells/punishing etc).

I did manage to get some bible pages to drop outside the mini prison, though.

[Phreya™]

Actually I never see janitor polaroid drop with my current prison as well. I used my old alpha prison when it drops. Lucky me, I guess. It's quite hard to locate since the janitors're wandering around all over your prison. Also, it's possible that your worker dump it before you manage to find it.

And about the specific prisoner polaroids, they only drop one each despite some of them were mentioned twice in the txt file list. I suggest you should try the list of polaroids with pictures at wikia to check which one you're missing.

[StarAnastasy]

Phreya, thank you very much for your comments! They was SO SO SO helpful! Have the polaroid achievment now

[Perpetual_Retrospect]

Originally posted by John E. Coolpepper:

go to the guides section here in steam, there is a guide for polaroids and bible

it says that a bible page spawns every 24 hours in game, so probably you are missing them, just as me. also if you dont click on them for some time they will get tossed to garbage.

Unfortunately ive scoured every guide i could find, compared txt files, basically have the non-campaign polaroids memorized. The two im missing just won't drop.

Ran several hours of tests on bible pages yesterday, built a special mini prison on a tiny map competely covered with grass (easier to spot) there doesn't seem to be a set interval with which they spawn, or at least they don't spawn exactly every 24 hours.

It does appear that only one will spawn at a time, and they seem to sit there indefinitely (left one sitting for a day).

Originally posted by Phreya:

Actually I never see janitor polaroid drop with my current prison as well. I used my old alpha prison when it drops. Lucky me, I guess. It's quite hard to locate since the janitors're wandering around all over your prison. Also, it's possible that your worker dump it before you manage to find it.

And about the specific prisoner polaroids, they only drop one each despite some of them were mentioned twice in the txt file list. I suggest you should try the list of polaroids with pictures at wikia to check which one you're missing.

That's the issue, as mentioned above, i built a specialized prison yesterday for farming the last of the named polaroids and trying to figure out why the janitor one wont drop.

Here's my issue regarding the txt file, i know (visually confirmed) that the one im missing is Adrian Awyoung (pic of guy in front of video board apparently stealing money electronically) but my txt file says ive already had an Adrian Awyoung drop (the lower case version, each has an upper/lower case on the guide i found).

Ive run Adrian through 3 different prisons, one of which he served a full ~20 game day sentence and was released, then i even brought him back to that prison again.

No matter what i do, he wont drop it.

Same issue with the janitor one, i know its the one im missing (confirmed via txt file) but it wont drop, the tiny prison had 100% visibility and i watched the initial single janitor for over a day, he didnt drop it. So i tried 50 janitors, nothing.

Honestly im pretty frustrated at this point, just can't believe that Introversion would be goofy enough to make this damn near impossible to achieve.

[Perpetual_Retrospect]

I loaded a prison from ~July 2013 and transfered Awyoung in, he immediately dropped his polaroid i was missing in his cell, so i guess 4th prison's a charm.

Now why won't that stupid janitor drop his....arg!