How can I make the prison more miserable?

[Reece Draygan]

I have a prison that I have built where I have tried to be as brutal as possible to the inmates just to see how far I can push them before a riot ensues and I lose control of the prison. It would appear brute force is pretty effective despite trying my best to piss them off and I have only had 2 riots that was controlled. I do have lose conditons switched off (but I don't think enough people have died to prompt a failure anyway) and I started with $1million from a previous sale.

Currenlty have 400 inmates. 75% at max security, 15% are normal security and the remaining are minimum/protected inmates. I have no reform at all; not even a chapel. I only have parole boards. Punishment for any crime results in a search of person and cell and 24 hours locked either in their cell or solitary confinement. Solitary has no toilet or bed. Cells are mostly 4 square "small cells". As for the food; variety is set to none and quantity is at the lowest (it looks like sproat soup). There is no free time for the inmates; just work, lock up and yard.

I have put all the Murderers and Legendary inmates together in a Supermax area that resembles a POW camp. I have 2 of these camps next to eachother surrounded by 6 Watch towers with snipers. Every yard in the prison has at least 2 Watch towers with snipers.

I think I have about 24 or so Armed guards that patrol the prison. 80 guards (all with Tazers) and 20 dogs. Contraband is virtually none existant thanks to dogs and metal detectors.

I am slowly decreasing the number of normal security inmates and increasing the maximum inmates. But other than this is there anything else I can do to make life more miserable for the inmates? I think I have the entire population so supressed that there is no will to rise up. Doesn't do my reoffending rates any good however...

Any ideas?

[alan85224]

Before the heat mod I had permanent solitary in outdoor cells.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=474100921

[Kunovega]

Първоначално публикувано от Komichi Aya:

You don't have any reform , so no workshop too?
If you don't have workshop to make money , how can you afford so many staff?

Once you figure out how to make money in this game you pretty much have an unlimited income for all future prisons. When you use the sell feature it starts a new game with all of the profits from your old one.

If you keep backup copies of your most successful prisons you can sell copies of them at any point to start a new prison to experiment with at pretty much any income level you want.

And that's all assuming you play legit.

Once you realize how to build successful prisons and flip them for whatever profit you also realize it's much faster to just edit the save game file and start a prison with any amount of money you want; and quite frankly there's no reason to feel guilty about it because: I already know how to make unlimited money from gameplay and than flip it into a new prison by selling.

Also: you could avoid all of this entirely by just turning on unlimited money if you are willing to cheat.

Most of my new prisons have several hundred million in starting funds unless I'm intentionally limiting myself for a particular goal.

[No.]

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=655828845

There's some 500+ guys in there, and a bunch of them die every other day.

They don't get clean clothes, have no showers, nor anything that allows them to do any activity other than start riots and kill each others. The only thing they get access to are a couple of toilets to satisfy the holding cell requirements, and barely enough food to prevent them from starving.

Make them max, supermax, or whatever you like, and make sure that there aren't enough solitary rooms for their category, that way they'll remain handcuffed and scared for at least a day, which is enough to avoid losing due to criminal negligence.

[Kirron]

Първоначално публикувано от Reece Draygan:

I have a prison that I have built where I have tried to be as brutal as possible to the inmates just to see how far I can push them before a riot ensues and I lose control of the prison. It would appear brute force is pretty effective despite trying my best to ♥♥♥♥ them off and I have only had 2 riots that was controlled. I do have lose conditons switched off (but I don't think enough people have died to prompt a failure anyway) and I started with $1million from a previous sale.

Punishment for any crime results in a search of person and cell and 24 hours locked either in their cell or solitary confinement.

I think I have about 24 or so Armed guards that patrol the prison. 80 guards (all with Tazers) and 20 dogs. Contraband is virtually none existant thanks to dogs and metal detectors.

Any ideas?

24 hours in solitary for murder? I usally do 72 hours for murder, serious injury and attacked staff 48 hours for destruction, 24 hours for weapons found on prisoner or in the cell, 48 hours in lockdown for escape atempte, 24 hours in lockdown for being in possesion of narocotics and 12 hours in lockdown for luxury's. And that's for my standered prisons. If I make a miserable prison? Double all those timers (but have beds and toilets in solitary cells so they don't instantly make trouble again before they sort out their needs).