Prisoner escape through forestry

[DornIllKhan]

New to prison architect and still learning the technical parts of the game. I have just planted a forestry field and also have unlocked prison labor. I didnt assign any prison workers to the forestry but they went out there to plant trees anyways. Once they were in the clear field with no guards they escaped. My forestry is outside my base with no walls. I couldnt find an option to stop them from working on the field.

[Kunovega]

Everything should have walls, not sure why that isn't obvious.

[DornIllKhan]

Originally posted by Kunovega:

Everything should have walls, not sure why that isn't obvious.

How is it obvious...? I assumed only workers would be working on forestry and workers are not trying to escape so they do not need walls. On top of that it would cost money to wall off forestry, which was built because i was low on money.Does anyone have any actually helpful advice on how to deselect prisoners from working on forestry plots?

[Kunovega]

It's a prison, if you don't secure it the prisoners will walk out. You can keep pretending it's not obvious, but you will keep failing until you learn the lesson.

Prisoners don't even work in forestry, but unless you secure it and zone it staff only they are allowed to wander.

You didn't secure the prison and you didn't zone it correctly. Prisoners only work in rooms you assigned them to.

[DornIllKhan]

You must not of read my original comment. Downloaded this game two days ago and am still learning it. If you have no help to offer which is the point of this post please stop replying. I understand the prison needs walls.... But I didn't have any in place for forestry because like i said before the prisoners didn't walk out until I replanted and I was not ready for it. Prison was secured and they only started walking out once i began to replant forestry. No other changes, and they had previously not been able to walk out. The claim that they don't work on forestry doesn't make much sense because when I hovered over prisoners it said they were going to plant trees / work on forestry or something along those lines. Can anyone help me with not allowing prisoners to plant trees for forestry? Just to clear up the situation I cleared the trees from forestry to sell them, then I removed and recreated forestry area to plant new trees, which is maybe not the proper way to do it. When i
originally planted trees i didn't have prison labor unlocked. Any help would be much appreciated for future knowledge on the next prison.

[The Queen Salis]

actually, the newest update allows prisoners to work in forestry under some conditions.

[The Stranger]

Originally posted by VooDoo:

You must not of read my original comment.

He did. And he pointed it out to you.
Do you know any real-life prison where prisoners can get outside the walls? No. Look at screenshots, damn even the background of the Community Hub shows a good example.

Everything has to be in walls.

[Magicsimmer]

Originally posted by The Queen Salis:

actually, the newest update allows prisoners to work in forestry under some conditions.

How do you get prisoners to work in a Forestry? Is there an option for that?

So far it's just been the gardener

[UltimateTobi]

Originally posted by Magicsimmer:

Originally posted by The Queen Salis:

actually, the newest update allows prisoners to work in forestry under some conditions.

How do you get prisoners to work in a Forestry? Is there an option for that?

So far it's just been the gardener

Since The Bucket (recent update) you have Forestry as a Prison Labor option.

[BrowneHawk]

OP I think you can set if you want prisoners working forestry or not. I just fired back up so re learning myself.

You are able to set zones, might be under logistics? This comes into play later on when you want to section of certain quality prisoners away from eachother.

So your outside where all the trees are should be set to staff and guards only. This will stop the prisoners from even getting the idea of going to chop trees, because its a no fly zone for them.

Knowing how to do this is a must.

[BrowneHawk]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2099799393

[BrowneHawk]

Sorry not a live prison just doing the tutorial to brush up.

So basically you want to make it so they don't even get a chance to step out there into fresh air.

But being sandbox like, you could in theory have an outside tree chopping operation, you will just need fences, guards, patrols.

[DornIllKhan]

Thank you @brownehawk and @ultimatetobi for advice that is more than just "must walls" i will look at logistic zoning for forestry next time around. That is most certainly the problem, not missing walls, because as I stated they didnt run out until i replanted forestry. not a problem with walls. Problem solved 5/17

[BrowneHawk]

Originally posted by VooDoo:

Thank you @brownehawk and @ultimatetobi for advice that is more than just "must walls" i will look at logistic zoning for forestry next time around. That is most certainly the problem, not missing walls, because as I stated they didnt run out until i replanted forestry. not a problem with walls. Problem solved 5/17

Just to clarify I originally said logistics, but it is the deployment tab you need.

[The Stranger]

Originally posted by BrowneHawk:

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2099799393

But even this prison is surrounded by walls. You still need those walls.

[DornIllKhan]

@thestranger my prison isnt fully built and it doesnt have walls. if you arent gonna help why bother??