Armed guards and danger level

[Ludwigven]

Hello everyone.

A few months ago I searched everywhere (and even asked here) for a way to remove the danger level increase by armed guards.
Now some updates after, and especially v2.0, does anyone found out a way to do that? Without the tools and cheats enabled though...

Thank you

[Trixi]

not possible, but in fact you dont need much armed guards. They arent worth the money. a few normal with tazers do the job as good as one armed guard.

[Ludwigven]

Originally posted by Trixi:

not possible, but in fact you dont need much armed guards. They arent worth the money. a few normal with tazers do the job as good as one armed guard.

I'm aware, I just like to have a ton of armed guards patrolling super max wing. Looks better for me.

I read somewhere the "maximum" before they become too much for danger level is around 7/8, anyone can confirm?

[jasonharris2]

5/6 are ify 7+ max danger

[Ludwigven]

Originally posted by jasonharris2:

5/6 are ify 7+ max danger

You mean 7+ for max sec? I didn't quite understand your post

[MisterSpock]

sadly armed guard and suppression/punishment is very weak.

I have to disable all punishments, because of gangs. If the gangleader is punished, the danger level rises. even my min sec doing problems.

i have the same problem with armed guards. and it looks like the game doesnt care if you got 40 prisoners or 400. For example 10 armed guard will always do the same pressure on danger level. If you want remove that, i think the only way is a mod.

But, the pacifier warden also helps. I think he can neutralize like 15 armed guard. (of course the dangerlevel, he is not fighting them.)


btw this is my supermax wing with the gang leaders
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=758753760

since almost every need filled, they never complain.

And something to the danger level:

you can still have 15 armed guard and a low danger level. But its more difficult.
the reason why your dangerlevel is so high is another (unfilled needs or fights.)

[jasonharris2]

Originally posted by Master of Times:

Originally posted by jasonharris2:

5/6 are ify 7+ max danger

You mean 7+ for max sec? I didn't quite understand your post

7 + will max out your danger lv

[MisterSpock]

Originally posted by jasonharris2:

Originally posted by Master of Times:

You mean 7+ for max sec? I didn't quite understand your post

7 + will max out your danger lv

in one of my save games i got 15 and its danger level is low.

danger level has more factores than armored guards.

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=758763135

i guess with pacifier warden you can get 40+ armed guards.

the key are full needs. go to my screenshots for some layout ideas.

[Ludwigven]

Originally posted by MisterSpock:

Originally posted by jasonharris2:

7 + will max out your danger lv

in one of my save games i got 15 and its danger level is low.

danger level has more factores than armored guards.

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=758763135

i guess with pacifier warden you can get 40+ armed guards.

the key are full needs. go to my screenshots for some layout ideas.

I think Jason meant that more than 7 guards will not increase danger lvl further?

And an important point: I'm not complaining about my danger level, it's non existent in a 700 prisioner prison (6 armed guards), I just wanted the option to simply prevent the danger lvl of ever increasing due to armed guards (I can't find a mod for that, as it appears there's no way to mod it).

Thank you

[MisterSpock]

Originally posted by Master of Times:

Originally posted by MisterSpock:

in one of my save games i got 15 and its danger level is low.

danger level has more factores than armored guards.

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=758763135

i guess with pacifier warden you can get 40+ armed guards.

the key are full needs. go to my screenshots for some layout ideas.

I think Jason meant that more than 7 guards will not increase danger lvl further?

And an important point: I'm not complaining about my danger level, it's non existent in a 700 prisioner prison (6 armed guards), I just wanted the option to simply prevent the danger lvl of ever increasing due to armed guards (I can't find a mod for that, as it appears there's no way to mod it).

Thank you

ok 7 guards to max. thx thats sound easy to handle. i will test it.

[static]

You only need a few armed guards, even in an enormous facility. Tasers are a much better option than shotguns.

Shotgun-equipped guards have very niche uses. Having them all over the place is a terrible idea for a whole bunch of reasons.

[MisterSpock]

Originally posted by static:

You only need a few armed guards, even in an enormous facility. Tasers are a much better option than shotguns.

Shotgun-equipped guards have very niche uses. Having them all over the place is a terrible idea for a whole bunch of reasons.

But you can use armed guard for temp suppression. for 8 pm to 12 am my prisoners got suppression, which is good for my prison grading. after 12am work started and so on.

[murgh]

Armed guards for suppression? I'm using an OBEY utility for that. Suppresses everybody in the evening and they will stay that way until the next morning. No armed guards needed.

[Trixi]

Originally posted by murgh:

Armed guards for suppression? I'm using an OBEY utility for that. Suppresses everybody in the evening and they will stay that way until the next morning. No armed guards needed.

Not everybody cheats as much as you ^^

[murgh]

xD *looking in the sky while whistling

[Ludwigven]

Again people, I'm aware that tazers are much better etc etc etc. But forget gameplay reasons for using armed guards. I just like having them patrolling there. Not because they are better, but because I like it