Prisoners not fulfilling needs

[[TGO]Poma]

My prisoners have means to fulfill needs such as shower, recreation, etc... Yet they do not seek out these means and start riots because of their needs being super high. What is going on?

[SteddyNCC78339]

First thing I'd suggest you don't have enough time in your regime. What I tend to do is set a time in the morning (just after sleep time ends) and evening (just before sleep time begins) that is shower time. I also supply showers in each cell. Plus I make sure the regime also features enough work/free time throughout the day and dedicated shower areas throughout the prison.

Second thing I'd suggest is that you take a look at your prison layout and ensure that there are enough accessible areas (not: gang territory, staff only, or different security classification areas) available to your inmates.

Finally it is possible that one or more mods (if you use mods) are out of date, incompatible with one or more of your other mods, or otherwise broken and are causing this issue. You might need to remove them all and reinstall them one at a time until you find the one that causes the issue to reoccur.

[JennyTheGhoul]

For hygiene, I've found the shower regime to be largely useless. In another thread it was theorized that 'shower' means they should leave their cells for a shower area rather than shower in their cells. Changing to an early morning lockdown or free time has fixed my early morning hygiene issues (it seems to be worse in the morning). I don't like to use shower rooms because they tend to be a hotbed of inmate violence so each cell has a shower. I also put showers and toilets in the yard. They definitely take advantage of the shower there.

My only major issue now is luxuries. I rarely see any of them visiting the shop, even when I have both min and med security working the shop with an overlap with only medium or minimum security prisoners working while the other has free time. They are always whining about luxuries but seem to be able to tend to their other needs pretty well. I don't want to put a pet bird in every cell (that's reserved for my higher end cells and my supermax guys in permanent lockdown).

[The Queen Salis]

Originally posted by JennyTheGhoul:

For hygiene, I've found the shower regime to be largely useless. In another thread it was theorized that 'shower' means they should leave their cells for a shower area rather than shower in their cells. Changing to an early morning lockdown or free time has fixed my early morning hygiene issues (it seems to be worse in the morning). I don't like to use shower rooms because they tend to be a hotbed of inmate violence so each cell has a shower. I also put showers and toilets in the yard. They definitely take advantage of the shower there.

My only major issue now is luxuries. I rarely see any of them visiting the shop, even when I have both min and med security working the shop with an overlap with only medium or minimum security prisoners working while the other has free time. They are always whining about luxuries but seem to be able to tend to their other needs pretty well. I don't want to put a pet bird in every cell (that's reserved for my higher end cells and my supermax guys in permanent lockdown).

honestly, i prefer murgh's vending machines to shop any day of the week. they just sit there and provide the goods without the hassle. honestly recommend them

[JennyTheGhoul]

Originally posted by The Queen Salis:

Originally posted by JennyTheGhoul:

For hygiene, I've found the shower regime to be largely useless. In another thread it was theorized that 'shower' means they should leave their cells for a shower area rather than shower in their cells. Changing to an early morning lockdown or free time has fixed my early morning hygiene issues (it seems to be worse in the morning). I don't like to use shower rooms because they tend to be a hotbed of inmate violence so each cell has a shower. I also put showers and toilets in the yard. They definitely take advantage of the shower there.

My only major issue now is luxuries. I rarely see any of them visiting the shop, even when I have both min and med security working the shop with an overlap with only medium or minimum security prisoners working while the other has free time. They are always whining about luxuries but seem to be able to tend to their other needs pretty well. I don't want to put a pet bird in every cell (that's reserved for my higher end cells and my supermax guys in permanent lockdown).

honestly, i prefer murgh's vending machines to shop any day of the week. they just sit there and provide the goods without the hassle. honestly recommend them

Are those working with the latest version? I know the combipack needs an update. I hope Murgh is okay.

[The Queen Salis]

Originally posted by JennyTheGhoul:

Originally posted by The Queen Salis:

honestly, i prefer murgh's vending machines to shop any day of the week. they just sit there and provide the goods without the hassle. honestly recommend them

Are those working with the latest version? I know the combipack needs an update. I hope Murgh is okay.

best you can do is make a spare save and test it alone, then report whatever happens on the mod page.

be a part of the solution yknow

[JennyTheGhoul]

Originally posted by The Queen Salis:

Originally posted by JennyTheGhoul:

Are those working with the latest version? I know the combipack needs an update. I hope Murgh is okay.

best you can do is make a spare save and test it alone, then report whatever happens on the mod page.

be a part of the solution yknow

LOL, a simple yes, no, or I don't know would have sufficed. Anyway, I grabbed it and it appears to be working correctly. Honestly, I'd forgotten this mod existed.

[The Queen Salis]

Originally posted by JennyTheGhoul:

Originally posted by The Queen Salis:

best you can do is make a spare save and test it alone, then report whatever happens on the mod page.

be a part of the solution yknow

LOL, a simple yes, no, or I don't know would have sufficed. Anyway, I grabbed it and it appears to be working correctly. Honestly, I'd forgotten this mod existed.

that was my "i don't know and it's on you to check"