How is the bug situation?

[gtgiygus]

Been awhile since I booted this up. How playable would you say the game is?

I had been reading about broken this and bug that, wondering if I should spend time getting into it or not.

[The Queen Salis]

you have two options here.

you can play the main branch and find out what bugs you run into (i run into very few because of my minimalistic playstyle)

you can switch to the 2018 branch and just play the game as it was before Peedix started breaking it.

[Gorby]

I hadn't played for more than a year before I started a new game about a week ago... I think I'm about to give up and stop playing. Sure, there seems to be some sort of goofy workaround for most of the bugs but it really kills the fun. I don't use any mods and the only DLC I have is the free Cleared for Transfer so I thought maybe I wouldn't have any/many problems, but I was wrong.

[gtgiygus]

Ugh, ok that sucks...TY for the input

[ArKaM]

Has anything improved with the last patch?

[Akazie_Christi]

I am interested, too. Question is simple, is it playable now, or not. What does workaround for bug mean. Does the bug occur, then its not fixed. Thanks for more eventual replies in advance

[gtgiygus]

Judging by both Queen and Gorby, it would seem not playable for everyone, but some people have more luck then others.

I just went ahead and played KSP for awhile rather then Prison architect. If I am going to get frustrated it might as well be for the right reasons.

[Gorby]

Originally posted by Akazie_Christi:

I am interested, too. Question is simple, is it playable now, or not. What does workaround for bug mean. Does the bug occur, then its not fixed. Thanks for more eventual replies in advance

This:
https://steamcommunity.com/app/233450/discussions/0/3105763714503127609/?ctp=27#c3108018050526800340

Another example of a workaround I figured out later for the Gardener problem I mention above is to use the sand flooring in outdoor areas that have room zoning so that the Gardeners don't need to clean them (sand never gets "dirty"). So now my Yards are covered in sand instead of the nice stone, concrete, or paving floor tiles I usually use. Having to look at that all the time was depressing lol.

[Akazie_Christi]

Thanks Gorby, but this is already sh*t to me. It is a small game. If I can not put the floors I want, it is not working. Maybe they are proud of selling low quality and consider themselves clever. Congrats.

[Gorby]

Well technically you can still put whatever floor you want in your Yard, Kennel, Deliveries, Export, and Garbage zones but the Gardeners will never clean them so that looks even worse than the sand to me.

[mick]

i cannot even open the launcher without it crashing. have tried all fixes.

[The Queen Salis]

Originally posted by Akazie_Christi:

Thanks Gorby, but this is already sh*t to me. It is a small game. If I can not put the floors I want, it is not working. Maybe they are proud of selling low quality and consider themselves clever. Congrats.

just so you know: if you didn't put the foundations first, then the game IS working, you're just not understanding it.
some floors and rooms need to be "inside" so they need to have a roof, not just to be surrounded by walls.
ie - foundation tool.

if that's not what you meant then apologies, but people complain about things like this since forever and it can be difficult to guess whether the error exists in the game or the user sometimes.

[Akazie_Christi]

I have spent enough time in the game to grasp the concept of floors. Sometimes I place this, sometimes I place that. It is a virtual world, made for me to create it how I like it. This is its purpose.

Now: for some reason, probably making it realistic and entertaining, floors get dirty. Ok. No problem. Floors can be cleaned. Part of the management of the prison. Nice. Why not. So I assign cleaners. If they dont clean them anymore, the game is broken.

I already experienced troubles the last time I played it. Why clean there, why not clean there. Why walk strange ways. Why not respond. Why u no work. The problem is always the human who plays the game. If you don't play it, the problem disappears. Still I don't feel like it's all me.

[The Queen Salis]

Originally posted by Akazie_Christi:

I have spent enough time in the game to grasp the concept of floors. Sometimes I place this, sometimes I place that. It is a virtual world, made for me to create it how I like it. This is its purpose.

Now: for some reason, probably making it realistic and entertaining, floors get dirty. Ok. No problem. Floors can be cleaned. Part of the management of the prison. Nice. Why not. So I assign cleaners. If they dont clean them anymore, the game is broken.

I already experienced troubles the last time I played it. Why clean there, why not clean there. Why walk strange ways. Why not respond. Why u no work. The problem is always the human who plays the game. If you don't play it, the problem disappears. Still I don't feel like it's all me.

congratulations on changing the subject. or just being very misleading before.
that's an AI, job creation and pathing problems you have. just like everyone because these systems have been repeatedly broken by every single update and DLC.

[Akazie_Christi]

I wonder what the purpose of your writing here is. I do not owe you anything, let alone a subject. I am not in the least interested in you being lead or mislead. It may occur that I use words in their improper sense, as a non-native speaker. I doubt I could not make it clear, however, that I am very unhappy with a sh*theap of bugs and errors.
I dont need workarounds.
I need a game that works.
Plus, I live in a country where there is jurisdiction. Which should protect from buying something, thus owning it, and having it remotely and purposefully being made dysfunctional later on.

This is not a matter of pathfinding, AI, or changing subject. This is a matter of the common sense of a 12-year-old.

[The Queen Salis]

Originally posted by Akazie_Christi:

I wonder what the purpose of your writing here is. I do not owe you anything, let alone a subject. I am not in the least interested in you being lead or mislead. It may occur that I use words in their improper sense, as a non-native speaker. I doubt I could not make it clear, however, that I am very unhappy with a sh*theap of bugs and errors.
I dont need workarounds.
I need a game that works.
Plus, I live in a country where there is jurisdiction. Which should protect from buying something, thus owning it, and having it remotely and purposefully being made dysfunctional later on.

This is not a matter of pathfinding, AI, or changing subject. This is a matter of the common sense of a 12-year-old.

I haven't offered a workaround. I'm simply stating that you are actually describing a legit problem with the game now. "game that works" is in the 2018 beta branch but nothing can be done otherwise and I'm not gonna pretend.

"If I can not put the floors I want, it is not working" is very different from what you described later.