Why the hell does barbed wire cost so much?

[Noodlerules]

To fully cover an exterior fence on a Large Map you need 154 tiles of fence. at 154 x 200$ you are spending 30,800$
Plus the 154 tiles of fence itself so 154 X 3$ = 462$ + 30800$ = 31262$ total for a full exterior fence.
My question is, why does a wire fence tall enough to need a rope to get over cost 3$ where as what might be a foot of barbed wire costs 200$?!
Why the F*** does barbed wire cost 66 times the amount of money a tile of fence costs?

[badAim]

Because it's very useful I guess? It's just like with a perimeter wall and I personally don't have a single problem with the cost of it. Barbed wire is not something you can have from the beginning on every wall you want, its high cost is okay. It could be 150$ or they could change some other stuff and balance everything little bit more but as I said, no problem for me and as an experienced player (?) I understand why it's so expensive.
It gives you more to think how to design and expand your prison. I think the devs want people to start with enclosed facility first (one huge building) and then, if you decide to make something outside, outdoor - you gotta be well prepared and have enough of funds.

[Sexy Choupi]

I think that it is to balance its power, it virtually blocks all the attempts at climbing the walls, which is the new escape route. So it is not related to the actual cost of barb wire... I mean look around for prices, most stuff are innacurate in teh game, do you know how much prison furnitures actually costs? I read somewhere that a real prison bench costs $500 in real life! So in short, it is a balance issue, for my latest prison I had to spend over 250K on barb wires, but if you consider blcokinga ll new escpapes, it is worth it :)

[Noodlerules]

Originally posted by Sexy Choupi:

I think that it is to balance its power, it virtually blocks all the attempts at climbing the walls, which is the new escape route. So it is not related to the actual cost of barb wire... I mean look around for prices, most stuff are innacurate in teh game, do you know how much prison furnitures actually costs? I read somewhere that a real prison bench costs $500 in real life! So in short, it is a balance issue, for my latest prison I had to spend over 250K on barb wires, but if you consider blcokinga ll new escpapes, it is worth it :)

Yeah, but can't they chose to go over it anyways? All it does it injure them if they do chose to try it, as well as deter others from trying. I have no idea how much damage it does, but it doesn't fully block the escape route.

[MekaDovah]

It doesn't stop them. A fully healthy prisoner can just muscle through the damage easily.

And a prisoner who jumps from a tree can bypass it entirely.

[TheRamiRocketMan]

Barbed wire is super useful and renders wall climbing escapes essentially impossible. It's more of a late-game item for when you get to a large and profitable prison. My 500 inmate prison has a barbed wire fence and barbed wire perimeter wall completely surrounding it. Sure it's expensive, but I had the money and it works to prevent wall escapes.

[AJW20]

I don't really know why, but you have it easy, i have an absoulty GINORMUS prison in witch likes the world has never seen! All that wire cost me over 400 THOUSAND dollars! And about three in-game days!

[Noodlerules]

Originally posted by TheRamiRocketMan:

Barbed wire is super useful and renders wall climbing escapes essentially impossible. It's more of a late-game item for when you get to a large and profitable prison. My 500 inmate prison has a barbed wire fence and barbed wire perimeter wall completely surrounding it. Sure it's expensive, but I had the money and it works to prevent wall escapes.

To quote MekaDovah:
"It dosen't stop them. A fully healthy prisoner can just muscle through the damage easily"
If im gonna spend that much money on a barbed wire fence, id like it to stop them fully.
If it were maybe 50$ Id be a little more understanding.

[Geothermal1159]

Originally posted by Noodlerules:

Originally posted by TheRamiRocketMan:

Barbed wire is super useful and renders wall climbing escapes essentially impossible. It's more of a late-game item for when you get to a large and profitable prison. My 500 inmate prison has a barbed wire fence and barbed wire perimeter wall completely surrounding it. Sure it's expensive, but I had the money and it works to prevent wall escapes.

To quote MekaDovah:
"It dosen't stop them. A fully healthy prisoner can just muscle through the damage easily"
If im gonna spend that much money on a barbed wire fence, id like it to stop them fully.
If it were maybe 50$ Id be a little more understanding.

Make 2 or three walls that are barbed and it doesn't matter how healthy a prisoner is since they WILL DIE from climbing over them.

EDIT: Also it doesn't need to stop them from climbing since you can route them to climb where you want them to.

[MekaDovah]

Originally posted by BFTPaul1159:

Make 2 or three walls that are barbed and it doesn't matter how healthy a prisoner is since they WILL DIE from climbing over them.

EDIT: Also it doesn't need to stop them from climbing since you can route them to climb where you want them to.

True enough, but in my tests I have yet to see inmates even try to climb walls if there was another wall beyond it, barbed wire or not.

In my main prison I strengthen my perimeter walls by placing a fence around the outermost area (perimeter walls are as weak as open dirt to digging if they're the final barrier for some buggy reason). Every escape attempt I see there involves rope being brought along so I assume they intend to use it on the final fence after digging under the other walls.

[Geothermal1159]

Originally posted by MekaDovah:

Originally posted by BFTPaul1159:

Make 2 or three walls that are barbed and it doesn't matter how healthy a prisoner is since they WILL DIE from climbing over them.

EDIT: Also it doesn't need to stop them from climbing since you can route them to climb where you want them to.

True enough, but in my tests I have yet to see inmates even try to climb walls if there was another wall beyond it, barbed wire or not.

In my main prison I strengthen my perimeter walls by placing a fence around the outermost area (perimeter walls are as weak as open dirt to digging if they're the final barrier for some buggy reason). Every escape attempt I see there involves rope being brought along so I assume they intend to use it on the final fence after digging under the other walls.

You could intentionally leave one section as a one wall to hop over to freedom type of deal to make it enticing to prisoners..... of course nothing stops you from having this wall be part of the Kennel full of guard dogs which is adjacent to the security and staff room where all of your other guards with tazers and shotguns reside as well...