About Paradox Privacy Policy

[Too useful dispenser]

So, sometime somewhere I saw that the Paradox is collecting information about everything. About data on a computer, data about Steam, data on computer use and other programs. Is it true? I'm too lazy to re-read everything,

[Too useful dispenser]

Really, Im scared about this becaus i got a very important information that no one should know, im seriously

[Kunovega]

It's the same standard crap required by every online game to notify you that you will be connecting to a server online. If you've ever connected to any online game it's the same thing, they just weren't required to tell you until the GDPR law changes.

Seriously all the GDPR did was confuse morons.

https://eugdpr.org/

[Too useful dispenser]

Do they collect information about my computer (data) or not? Just answer the question

[badAim]

Your computer data like what? Specs etc? Probably yes, like every other companies.
As Kunovega said above - it's normal nowadays that companies collect these. Stop freaking out about it and starting a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ out of nothing.

[Jet City Gambler]

Steam has a far more invasive EULA than Paradox does, yet you're on a Steam forum complaining about it.

[Kunovega]

It collects exactly what every other game that connects to a server collects, you can't connect to a server unless that server is able to identify your computer and your game account

The only way for you to be online without having data shared is... oh wait, you can't since just being online at all means someone is collecting the data needed to communicate with your computer

This is why the GDPR laws were so stupid, it's a big reminder that being online means whoever you connect with can connect with you as well... well freaking duh

[Donut Steel]

The content of the agreement is much less of an issue than the fact that it changed after people had purchased the game and agreed to the existing one.

OP, you wouldn't be using a Steam account if you applied the standard for personal data security that you are for this. Paradox are shady, so are Valve, so is almost every company you have a customer relationship with.

None of us have to like it, but to have the stuff we want we must be resigned to it.

[Yurii]

another one that cannot read.. shockingly amazing

just look at bottom of this page and follow link https://store.steampowered.com/privacy_agreement/

Steam has very clean policy, ok? During installation of PA you even cannot copy that crap.

ok, i'm off of this

[Kunovega]

Originally posted by Yurii:

Kunovega,
GDPR is not stupid, you are stupid.
GDPR is the best that happened on internet for the last 10 years. Unfortunately (or luckily for violators) amount of stupid ppl or those that cannot read is overwhelming

Oh look, another conspiracy nut

GDPR didn't change anything aside from companies needing to inform you that you are connecting to the internet which requires data be shared and used to identify you, otherwise... you can't connect to the internet... shocker

Sure, it means that the few companies who were collecting more data than they should are now easier to expose, but it also means all the companies that are collecting just the harmless data required to ... use the internet... at all... now must put up a EULA that scares off idiots even while nothing changed about what data is being moved

Just connecting to a server, any server means data was shared, it's how the internet works, at all. Having to notify every user, all the time of something that is ubiquitous did nothing but drive paranoid delusions into over drive

Congratulations on your hysteria

[Kunovega]

Originally posted by Arec Balrin:

The content of the agreement is much less of an issue than the fact that it changed after people had purchased the game and agreed to the existing one.

OP, you wouldn't be using a Steam account if you applied the standard for personal data security that you are for this. Paradox are shady, so are Valve, so is almost every company you have a customer relationship with.

None of us have to like it, but to have the stuff we want we must be resigned to it.

The GDPR Laws changed every game server, every game that connects to the internet and every website in the world.... after you bought it or signed up

When GDPR went into effect, every game on the planet put up a new EULA or shut down their servers, this was internet wide, everywhere

Perhaps you didn't notice, but it was mandatory due to the GDPR. Everything you have ever connected to the internet with changed their EULA in the past year or closed their servers.

If you aren't aware or don't know why, read:
https://eugdpr.org/

That effected every server in the world for everything. The options are clear: new EULA telling everyone that their data is being seen by the servers they connect with, or no server at all.

Even if the only thing that server sees is your IP/Mac address, that's still "data that is being shared" because that's how the freaking internet works even if the data is meaningless and anonymous and now due to the GDPR they have to remind you about it.

If you had the slightest grasp of how the internet worked you would realize how utterly ridiculous this requirement was to notify you. It's about as valuable as signs next to pools that say "water is wet"

[Kunovega]

Originally posted by Yurii:

Kunovega ,
being braindead is kinda verdict. so i'm writing for others.

internet connection is done via TCP(UDP)/IP protocol. So min required info is your IP. nothing else.

If you use web browser then they can store and access COOKIE - special info that can be shared/stored via/by websites. They will IDENTIFY you as a person/device. That's not conspiracy, this is total PRIVACY, which leads to ADWARES, or being totally soldout by email, etc. Like Facebook does.

And a game requires a bit more than that, big freaking deal. It's still redundant information. If you didn't know that games share data about what you are playing while connected to the server and... playing that game... being told about it via EULA doesn't really change anything for you

Other than drive conspiracy theorists like you into over drive

[Yurii]

offline game MUST NOT require even fkn IP. You are in total denial, aren't you?
Even giving specs of my computer for any party MUST BE my good will otherwise they just f@ck off. And those specs MUST BE anonymized. That's what gives GDPR. If they cannot follow - they get to court with some interesting consequences.

That's why studios update their EULAs - because stupid ppl cannot read and agree on any nonsense that they can write.

p.s.
If i would be a developer, I would create EULA where your house belongs to me if you, let's say, played less than 2 hours after 2 days of game purchase. Because you agreed that game is not product but service, I think court could be on my side. Hm..

[Kunovega]

Originally posted by Yurii:

Kunovega ,
being braindead is kinda verdict. so i'm writing for others.

internet connection is done via TCP(UDP)/IP protocol. So min required info is your IP. nothing else.

If you use web browser then they can store and access COOKIE - special info that can be shared/stored via/by websites. They will IDENTIFY you as a person/device. That's not conspiracy, this is total PRIVACY, which leads to ADWARES, or being totally soldout by email, etc. Like Facebook does.

Since you seem intent on ignoring any explanation I could bother to give, here's some more reading for you:

https://www.wired.co.uk/article/gdpr-anniversary

https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20180525/15565839915/gdpr-ghastly-dumb-paralyzing-regulation-hard-to-celebrate.shtml

https://www.reddit.com/r/gdpr/comments/8y8l4m/what_a_pointless_and_counterproductive_waste_of/

https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/why-so-many-smart-people-stupid-gdpr-tim-walters-ph-d-/

https://www.brentozar.com/archive/2017/12/gdpr-stopped-selling-stuff-europe/

https://www.pcmag.com/commentary/361348/the-obvious-consequences-of-gdpr

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/askjack/2018/jul/05/what-should-i-do-about-all-the-gdpr-pop-ups-on-websites

GDPR has been nothing but a pointless waste of time, poorly written overly bureaucratic red tape that does nothing but annoy, especially when it comes to games and game servers

https://www.engadget.com/2018/05/26/how-gdpr-is-affecting-the-games-you-love/

https://www.reddit.com/r/gdpr/comments/88ljt2/gdpr_and_game_server_hosting/

If you read nothing else, read this:
https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/pavbn9/gdpr-privacy-law-and-online-games-loadout-ragnarok-online

Every game server had a choice: update EULA or shut down

Understand yet?

[BOYCOTT]

Originally posted by Yurii:

offline game MUST NOT require even fkn IP. You are in total denial, aren't you?
Even giving specs of my computer for any party MUST BE my good will otherwise they just f@ck off. And those specs MUST BE anonymized. That's what gives GDPR. If they cannot follow - they get to court with some interesting consequences.

That's why studios update their EULAs - because stupid ppl cannot read and agree on any nonsense that they can write.

p.s.
If i would be a developer, I would create EULA where your house belongs to me if you, let's say, played less than 2 hours after 2 days of game purchase. Because you agreed that game is not product but service, I think court could be on my side. Hm..

laws against contracts like that.

[Kunovega]

Originally posted by Yurii:

offline game MUST NOT require even fkn IP. You are in total denial, aren't you?
Even giving specs of my computer for any party MUST BE my good will otherwise they just f@ck off. And those specs MUST BE anonymized. That's what gives GDPR. If they cannot follow - they get to court with some interesting consequences.

That's why studios update their EULAs - because stupid ppl cannot read and agree on any nonsense that they can write.

p.s.
If i would be a developer, I would create EULA where your house belongs to me if you, let's say, played less than 2 hours after 2 days of game purchase. Because you agreed that game is not product but service, I think court could be on my side. Hm..

Prison Architect can be played offline, but is online by default. You can opt out and even skip the launcher and simply play offline

But if you connect normally you are set up for both coop mode and prison sharing with the workshop for escape mode, which means: you are online

So, not only are you completely unaware of GDPR and why it effected the EULA, you aren't aware that prison architect has online modes that connect unless you choose to be offline

Many game servers shut down in the past year over this
https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/pavbn9/gdpr-privacy-law-and-online-games-loadout-ragnarok-online