Heroic Mode

[Egg_Chen]

So, does anyone know if I choose an EX game, then select Heroic difficulty does it work for the achievement?

Or do you have to start absolutely from scratch for Heroic?

[Ywap]

I don´t think you can do that. I believe you can only play EX mode on the same difficulty level and lower that you have already completed.

[xxxIndyxxx]

that not true, you can play exmode on higher difficutlies, it's just a bit confusing (at least it was to me) to start it. It was in fact so confusing i don't really remember how but you first select new game, then i think ex mode, then you can only select normal but that's not really the select screen i think. On the next screen or something you can change your difficulty again. That should work because i am on ex mode and i get the hard tier acievements. No idea if this works for heroic mode though...

[FireStar]

You need the heroic mode, not ex mode. You are able to safe on ex mode, that's one of the diffculties on heroic, not to talk about the abilities you can start.
Heroic on exmode is just more harder than insane.

[Egg_Chen]

Thanks guys.

Yeah I worked out you can start EX mode on a higher difficulty, as dagami84 says it is not clear, but can be done.

In doing so, I noticed I could start an EX mode on Heroic difficulty, but was not sure if this counted for the achievement, or a "pure" Heroic run was required.

According to FireStar sounds like a "pure" Heroic run is required, I'll give it a shot!

[FireStar]

actually it would be a kind of unfair if it would works, keep us informed. ;)

[ERROR]

Ex mode uses the save file of a completed playthrough. You can change the difficulty when starting the Ex mode, but achievements are not granted for any difficulties higher than what the save file (finished playthrough) from which the Ex mode was started.

So unless you have a heroic completed playthrough stashed around from which to start an Ex mode on, you won't get the achievement at the end with a normal, hard, insane Ex mode changed into heroic difficulty in the menu.

[xxxIndyxxx]

That's just not true: I finished it on normal, then exmode hard and i did get the hard achievements...

[Major Fletcher]

This is the same system like in Hard Reset i think.

Sample:
Start and finish a game on normal. => Achievement
Start EX-Mode and choose "hard" and finish it => Achievemt
Start EX-Mode and choose "Insane" and finish it => Achievement

And if i remeber correctly, Heroic Mode is same difficulty level as Insane but you can only choose it by starting a complete new game. So without any upgrades. Otherwise it would not be sooooo much fun hahahahaha

Br, Fletcher

[Egg_Chen]

Cheers Major :)
Just about to start my EX Insane run, then Heroic next.

[Hawk]

I'm still unsure if I want to do this, there are only 3 or 4 games that's I've gone through and beaten on 4 difficulty settings, CoD4 - BO and man were those just aggravating. This game has it's problem points (Berserkers mostly) and this last Hard play through I had a bit more trouble with masses of enemies and that's on EX mode with checkpoints, I can't imagine this game without quick saves. I mean I would like to, but part of me doesn't want to poison my good feelings about this game with a very difficult and frustrating final play through, I don't know.

[Tony]

Where is the like button when I need one? Steam forums should have some voting mechanism.

I completely agree with the above comment. Nor do I know either.

Plus, there are so many games to play - how do you guys get time to replay a game fully?! Isn't playing a completely new game something that overrides replaying a game?

[Major Fletcher]

Yeah same to me. Thats why i think that my final playthrough will be Insane. Heroic can be really frustrating gg ... but maybe i will try... the first Levels

[zero]

Yea I concur with the last few posts. About to begin my second playthrough on insane. Not sure about heroic though.

This is another area where I feel this game would really shine with co-op (hell, at least for survival mode). -insert comment about 2 wangs here- Gloriously brutal difficulty that makes you want to smash your monitor is a lot better with a good friend by your side :)

(please FWH make a sequel-i love you)

[Hawk]

Yeah not happening, I'm attemping to do this on Insane and the final "mini boss" spam that the Devs thought was soo great is just an impassable wall, no, done with this game, if I can even manage to finish this, what absolute TRASH game play. I guess I reached that point earlier then I thought I would, I no longer enjoy this game Period.

[zero]

Originally posted by Hawk:

Yeah not happening, I'm attemping to do this on Insane and the final "mini boss" spam that the Devs thought was soo great is just an impassable wall, no, done with this game, if I can even manage to finish this, what absolute TRASH game play. I guess I reached that point earlier then I thought I would, I no longer enjoy this game Period.

It is still an awesome game man :) Honestly, the primary issue for me on the harder difficulty settings is just spontaneously exploding. And I mean that literally, when you have full health and are sprinting/dodging as best as can be done and suddenly boom, instant death. Must be a combination of explosive damage. The thing is, the same exact thing happens in hard reset on the harder difficulties as well, so i think it is a bit of a design flaw. That is the main issue for me with the harder settings. I have been trying to play survival mode but around the 12-13th wave this same damn thing happens everytime. very frustrating :(