The Last Remnant

The Last Remnant

keitth Jul 20, 2013 @ 4:51am
about the desired items
does anyone know the desired items are use for what?
what will happen if I give the desired items to them after the battle?
Last edited by keitth; Jul 20, 2013 @ 6:15am
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Zloth Jul 20, 2013 @ 6:40am 
Actually, they will take them unless you select them and say to keep it for yourself. You'll almost never want to do that, though. You see, what they want that stuff for is upgrading their own weapons. Unless you want that stuff for one of your own weapons, let them have it. (You can't take the stuff for yourself then give it to another character who wants the same thing. It's either the character that takes it after battle or yourself.)

This is another one of those not-quite-so-obvious systems. Here are the ways characters can get these weapon upgrade items:

  • The item drops in battle. You get to pick if the item goes to the character the game picks or keep it for yourself. Note that this is all or nothing. If the character only wants one item and five drop then the character gets all 5 or you get all 5.

  • Cut up a captured monster for it. When you do this you'll get the items AND every character that wants them will get them! So, if Nora and Loki both want godwood timber and you split up a tree critter that has two of them you will get two godwood timbers, Nora will get two, and Loki will get two.

  • Dig it up with Mr. Diggs. This works like monster splitting so finding 3 necrotic metals will give each character that wants it 3 necrotic metals plus you'll get 3 necrotic metals added to your own inventory.

  • They will just buy them in town. You'll walk into town, do whatever you're there to do, and when you next battle you'll (eventually) notice that the character has upgraded his/her weapon. If you look at the character's status, s/he will be somewhat poorer. Nobody is real sure how this mechanic works, exactly - it just happens sometimes.

NOT on the list is giving components away. If you've got 50 superior cottens on hand then David decides he wants 5 superior cottons, you've got to use one of the above to get it. You can't just hand him what you've got! (I think this is needed because, when you start a "plus" mode second play-through, you start with all the components you had when you won. Being able to give stuff away would make the whole party super-powered and "plus" mode would turn into "trivial" mode.)

Upgrading weapons (both your own and each character's) is definitely a big deal. Roughly half a character's stats actually come from the weapon he/she is using. The developers have layed things out so you'll run into what you need as long as you do some monster splitting and keep using Mr. Diggs. If you fail to do that, though, you can find yourself getting beat up on pretty bad. The Wikia is hugely handy[LastRemnant.wikia.com] for tracking down components you've missed.
Last edited by Zloth; Jul 20, 2013 @ 6:41am
keitth Jul 20, 2013 @ 8:59am 
O I see. Thank you very much ^u^
ArcanisCz Jul 22, 2013 @ 3:42am 
Thanks!
Please, make guide with this little piece of info or add it to last remnant wiki (there is much less info on this topic than in your short post http://lastremnant.wikia.com/wiki/Weapon_Upgrades)
Zloth Jul 22, 2013 @ 5:34pm 
It's in my "Things I Wish I Had Known..." guide already. Look under Weapons Components.

OH! Actually, I forgot one. You can break up weapons for parts, too! I don't do that one very often but it's there.
Friendship Chest Aug 2, 2013 @ 6:16pm 
Man - I'm right before the final fight... doing Ancient Ruins and side stuff and.. well.. I have characters who have NEVER upgraded their weapons. I tend to not go out of my way to get them components because of the "they'll just buy it themselves" mechanic. But here's the thing: They aren't buying components. It's making me crazy. On 360 I had weapon arts by now. I'm not about to go on long chains of "hunt this to get this magazine to hunt this rare monster to pray you get one of the components you need for one part of one level of one of 18 leader's weapon upgrade path" hunts forever. Ahhhhhhhhhh!!!
Zloth Aug 2, 2013 @ 11:17pm 
The buying mechanic only works for some stuff. I expect they can't buy what's not for sale.

So you went through the whole game with them begging you to find components and you blew them off the ENTIRE time?? Mr. Diggs has just been twiddling his thumbs for 40+ hours?

The end game isn't that hard, though. If you've gotten by The Fallen and into Ancient Ruins then you shouldn't have any troubles. You've also got the option of dumping the deadbeats and getting some of the last characters that show up (which already have nice weapons).
Friendship Chest Aug 3, 2013 @ 12:27am 
Yeah, I mean, I was used to the leaders just upgrading their stuff without me. I'm using mostly very late game dudes... but yeah this ingredient gathering is going to be a bummer. I've gotten plenty of the mining things... It's ♥♥♥♥ like "circular albic hide" and "collosus skull" and just tons of rare breed stuff. Just picked up Leucetius, and grabbed the imperator's katana so waiting for Zolean to request that. Most of the remnant weapons are easy because reya's notes and jewel steel come easy. Maybe I'll just hold out and replace everyone non-remnant weapon/imperator weapon with the seven.
Zloth Aug 3, 2013 @ 7:53am 
One nice thing about re-playing the game in plus mode: you keep all the magazines/dalies/crafting levels.

Circular albic hide is really easy once you get the magazine/daily. Pop into the catacombs and the very first room has a bunch of little frog-bunnies that you can skin.... umm.... frog-bunnies that will drop them. <ahem>

P.S. Like, what do mean DUDES? Like, didn't you, like, give that cute little witch what she wanted? Like, o m g, w t f! ;)
Friendship Chest Aug 3, 2013 @ 10:21am 
Well haruko has malystrix and emmy has nightbloom so they're good to go because they're at "need jewelsteel/reya's note" level. Irina doesn't have much going for her though! EDIT: Ah, I could get her the imperator's staff and be done with it. I wish more of my crew would use imperator stuff!

I'm also trying to go Warlock Rush - as a side note - with Wyngale, Leucetius, Yuniver, and Zolean making up the rest of that union. So yeah, mystic powerhouse B) A little money and I'll have 2x mystic scythe on Rush.

Yeahhh I can probably get these upgrade parts for my team if I just dedicate myself. I'm mostly just being a baby about things like spawning brynhildr to get the magazine for the hides. (as an example) Oh wow... I have to hunt down sledgehammer, then whitehorn, THEN maybe nightingale again assuming it doesn't count that I hunted it before obtaining the rank, THEN I can hunt brynhildr for the magazine???? ahhhhhhh

Edit: Sledgehammer down after like a minute of trying to find him. Maybe this won't be so bad?

Oh, some of those were the XBOX requirement. Whoops. Anyways, man I've got turbo on and I turned my viewable monster distance all the way up and I've got like a hundred wiki tabs open and this is rolling pretty smooth now. Feels good.
Last edited by Friendship Chest; Aug 3, 2013 @ 11:51am
Zloth Aug 3, 2013 @ 3:09pm 
You can take down rares before or after getting the guild rank. If you do it before then the mission shows up as completed immediately.
Friendship Chest Aug 3, 2013 @ 3:19pm 
I'm pretty sure that leaders will buy white items freely, while green and pink seem to require you to get them for them. Just in obtaining guild rank 5 of the golden chalice I got many of the magazines I will need to get everyone's stuff. I'm upgrading weapons at a decent pace now.

But yeah, I figured that out about the rares. not to mention the guild quest rares aren't respawnable so it had to be so.
Last edited by Friendship Chest; Aug 3, 2013 @ 3:20pm
Friendship Chest Aug 4, 2013 @ 2:00pm 
Oh... Torgal needs 8 bristly dragon's manes and 12 demon manes? Not to mention 8 bistly dragon's manes for Leucetius and Wyngale.

I'm over this whole upgrading thing :|
Last edited by Friendship Chest; Aug 4, 2013 @ 2:37pm
Zloth Aug 4, 2013 @ 7:53pm 
Lots of demons in the ancient ruins but the dragons are a pain. Popping in and out to try to get them to spawn is just plain booring. That's the trouble with the Sovani - four weapons mean four times the components to gether.
Friendship Chest Aug 4, 2013 @ 8:51pm 
It occurs to me that I don't care about weapon arts for my two mystic sovani and I can just live with the stat issues. I did collect enough dragon manes for Torgal, however. I'm kind of resigning myself to maxing the weapons for characters who do not currently have weapon arts and can actually use them. Some of my characters like Roberto for example will never use their arts because they have remnant weapon arts and aren't union leaders so what do I care. I'm essentially left with finishing Glenys and Allan which are both pretty easy at this point. Maybe I'll spend a minute on whatever else seems terribly easy and then call it done. I've already beaten demigod and the enlightened seven this weekend so what do I care. It's reasonable to assume that with even slightly more effort I can tackle the remainder of the bonus guild quests and the Absolute Conquerer.

There's something about this game that makes it never really feel completely experienced. I think it's that a lot of the more advanced ways you can use characters are unlocked so late that it feels pointless to invest in attempting to make use of them. It was a really nice experience playing this on PC, though, and getting to make use of leaders that I would never touch on the 360. There's that group of leaders that almost feel imment as party members so it feels like there's little choice if you're not just trying to be edgy (on the 360). I got every Sovani in my team this time because man do I like the Sovani race. I'd sure love to see this game get a sequel or to see the Sovani race elsewhere. Particularly the somewhat samurai style of Wyngale and Leucetius.

Man, I need a break. My head is swirling. I just pounded on this game all weekend. First time I turned on turbo too. Going back and turning it off makes the game feel like it's actually in slow mo. Like I try to make it feel natural but it really feels like it's unnaturally slow. I played through the whole thing twice on XBOX and up until endgame on PC in normal ol' speed and never felt that way about it. Okay I'm done but boy do I sure feel qualified to answer a variety of questions about this game at this point. Probably nowhere near as qualified as Zephyr from the wiki, however.
Friendship Chest Aug 5, 2013 @ 7:51pm 
♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ I just had the best moment. I know this has gotten far off topic - but I spent not very long at all and learned all the arcana and got Rush up to Legendary Warlock. Then I went to fight the Gates of Hell redux bonus mode boss thing. He killed Rush's party and then did the enthrall revive - but since Warlock has "no instakill" it didn't enthrall me. Just revived! The boss gave me a free revive. :O
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