Trying to fix my Caedmon to Ataraxian

[Emilkof]

So sometime relatively early in my game, my Caedmon went off course and became a ranger. And eventually became a marksman. I've been trying to get him to mystic knight because from there you can eventually get to ataraxian, but even though I seem to meet the conditions, I haven't been able to change class. Going to post my stats from the TLRplanner, please explain to me what's going on.


Spear lvl25
Dual Two-Handed lvl32
Herbs lvl5
Potions lvl1
Traps lvl1
Evocations lvl6
Remedies lvl3
str 138
int 54

It says he is currently Mystic greater, and his evocations show as significant. These fill all the requirements for Mysticknight, so why am I not getting it? He's been stuck as a marksman for a long time and all I do with him now is attack with combat arts.

[Fel]

Your problem is most likely because mystic isn't a significant skill group.

From the wiki:
https://lastremnant.fandom.com/wiki/Ataraxian

How to Obtain:
From the previous Mystic+Combat classes, Ataraxian can be reached simply by training Dual Two-Handed. From any other class, Mystic must become a significant skill group. The high wield requirement is usually met by improving Weapons as well, which often leaves it as the only significant skill group. The simple solution for this is to train Mystic skills, and the class change will eventually be triggered.

Your mystic skills are way too low to be considered a significant group due to your very high level in both spear and dual two-handed.

[Emilkof]

So I have to increase my mystic skills? That seems counter to what I read I should be doing, which is to turn off the mystic skills and constantly attack with my combat skills. But still, before I can reach ataraxian, I need to reach mysticknight and that's where I'm struggling.

[Fel]

It's not like you "have" to go through classes of the same type even if it usually helps a bit.

Be careful about the trl planner, it is often wrong about "significant".
You can find the correct definition on the wiki:
https://lastremnant.fandom.com/wiki/Classes

Significant, Highest:

A stat (STR, INT) is considered significant if it's at least 12% greater than the other one.
A skill group (Weapon Type, Mystic, Item) is considered significant if the sum of all of its skills is higher than the average of the sums of each of the skill groups (including its own and ignoring the wield style group). ie: A skill group is significant if it's greater than (Total Weapon Levels + Total Mystic Skill Levels + Total Item Skill Levels) / 3
An individual skill (i.e. Hexes, Traps, Katana) is considered significant if it's higher than the average of the skills in its group.
An individual skill is considered highest in its group if it's at least as high as the highest one.

[Emilkof]

Is the Spear(lvl25) and Dual Two-Handed(lvl32) separate skill groups? Like would the total weapon levels be 25+32? Based on these levels, it would seem impossible to get my mystic skills to be significant.

[Fel]

Significant for skill groups ignores wield style levels so it's still possible but those 25 levels in spear definitely won't make it too easy.

RIght now he has 9 in mystic and the "average" is
(25+7+9) /3 = 13.666...

With both evocation and remedies it should be relatively doable.

For an individual skill it's even easier since it only needs to be higher than the average in its skill group.

EDIT: That being said you probably want to make sure not to continue to raise spear (or any other weapon) any further for now.

[Emilkof]

Update on this, my Caedmon stats are now:
Spear 25
Herbs 5
Potions 1
Traps 1
Evocations 10
Remedies 5

He hasn't changed yet, I already passed the 13.666 threshold.

[Fel]

(25 + 7 + 15)/3 = 15.666...
What you forgot is that the increase in the mystic levels needs to be added to the mix so it's not 13.666 anymore.

If you gain one more level in evocation or remedies it will be 16 as the average and 16 as mystic, not sure if "equal" works so you might need one more level after that still.

[Emilkof]

He has finally become a Legendary Ataraxian. Thanks for the help. It happened when remedies + evocations reached 17.