How Long Is This Game

[Sparky862]

Im thinking of buying this game, but dont want to buy it if the game is short. I mean 9.99 seems to low for a game that looks this good?? Whats the catch

[🍋 Lemonfed 🍋]

it's a 2009 game that din't received great reviews from what I remember , either way it's a fair price for a square Enix game even if it's not their greatest RPG.

[Sparky862]

i like turn based combat games like this but dont know good games. So far what i found was The Legend of Heroes Trails in the Sky, which in its defense doesnt look all good, is acctually enjoyable. The Last Remnant may have recieved low scores, but the game play looks similiar to that of The Legend Of Heroes, and i like play style like that.

Do you know any other RPG games like this i can find on steam, which you think may be better?

[MaxBedlam]

The catch is that the game punishes you for grinding. If you fight too much your Battle Rank goes up and then some boss fights are almost impossible to beat. So you have to constantly maintain balance between game progression and BR which is really tedious. Not to mention that it kills the point of RPG (grinding to become strong enough to take on your opponents is what most RPG games are about and this game will as I said punish you if you try doing that by making the game even more difficult which is stupid).

Combat system is somewhat random-ish which some people including me don't really like.

Other then that the graphics, story and overall gameplay are pretty decent. The game does have it's charms, but it's also flawed. Not sure can I recommend it or not, I personally gave up from it for now.

As for how long the game is, according to HowLongToBeat.com people say it's around 53-65 hours for main story and 138-160 hours for completionists.

[Sparky862]

Any other good games similiar to this i can find on steam??

[rojimboo]

Still playing it after 500 hours...

And the grinding thing is not true for the PC version, only the xbox one. They fixed it.

[Sparky862]

i read that you cannot control you characters directly?? How does that play out, cause if i got a healer in my group, i cant choose who he must heal, then he heals a random player i never wanted to be healed??

[rojimboo]

Originally posted by Sparky862:

i read that you cannot control you characters directly?? How does that play out, cause if i got a healer in my group, i cant choose who he must heal, then he heals a random player i never wanted to be healed??

The AI is quite good. Based on your unions and their member's skills, and the commands you give them, you can almost control exactly what transpires on the battlefield.

Even if you choose to heal for a turn, the union will heal where needed and if not, buffs and supports or stays on standby. Unless they are attacked, then they will fight.

[Smorph]

Originally posted by Sparky862:

i read that you cannot control you characters directly?? How does that play out, cause if i got a healer in my group, i cant choose who he must heal, then he heals a random player i never wanted to be healed??

Your team for the larger battles while be comprimised up of multiple groups of characters called unions that have 3-5 individual characters in them. they can all attack indepently but they share HP and if it drops to 0 the whole group dies if you tell them to heal up since they low on health they will start to use items and such to heal and it will heal the whole groups HP and while each character in your party will attack seperately you only issue one commend per turn to them as a group.

I'm only at the early parts of the game but so far also you only command one of those unions for the bigger battles the other unios are computer controller and they do there own thing you can't control them not sure if this changes in the future where it will let you give commend other unions as opposed to just the one the main characters is in maybe someone who has played more can chime into to clarify if this changes later in the game.

[rojimboo]

Originally posted by DJ_Headshot:

Originally posted by Sparky862:

i read that you cannot control you characters directly?? How does that play out, cause if i got a healer in my group, i cant choose who he must heal, then he heals a random player i never wanted to be healed??

Your team for the larger battles while be comprimised up of multiple groups of characters called unions that have 3-5 individual characters in them. they can all attack indepently but they share HP and if it drops to 0 the whole group dies if you tell them to heal up since they low on health they will start to use items and such to heal and it will heal the whole groups HP and while each character in your party will attack seperately you only issue one commend per turn to them as a group.

I'm only at the early parts of the game but so far also you only command one of those unions for the bigger battles the other unios are computer controller and they do there own thing you can't control them not sure if this changes in the future where it will let you give commend other unions as opposed to just the one the main characters is in maybe someone who has played more can chime into to clarify if this changes later in the game.

Yes, you get as many as 5 unions to control and play with later.

[Sparky862]

well, this game sounds promising, as i am a fan of jrpg style games....huge fan of the persona series, have you guys ever tried that??? oh my lord you should if you have not yet

[Zloth]

Hmmm, some clean up here...

How long is the game? About 40 hours, give or take, if you do most of the typical quests. There are some special battles that were added after the game released on XBox that can add more hours and playing through a second time in "plus" mode is a different enough experience to be (IMHO) pretty fun.

Are there games like it on Steam? Not really, no, though there are games that are like parts of it. It's a JRPG so, like the Final Fantasy games, expect plenty of fish people and rabbit people but don't expect to make any decisions about how the story plays out. Unlike most recent JRPGs, you can't exploit the game via grinding.

There IS a demo but it isn't a real good one. It's mostly good for seeing if your PC can run the game but it's too short to really teach you the battle system.

You can't control your characters directly - nor do you want to in this game. Why? Because you'll have 18 of them by the last third of the game! You really don't want to have to go through 18 characters and tell each one what to do every turn. So the characters are broken up into squads (called "unions" for whatever reason) and you give the squads general commands like "heal those guys" or "attack those guys with melee weapons". What command options you get starts out random but you'll learn to influence what commands show up over the course of the game.

I've certainly heard of the Persona series but never played it. Tell'm to make a PC version!

I'm afraid you are in a tricky spot. The story in this game is OK but nothing awesome. The make-or-break-it feature is really the combat. If you enjoy it, you'll love the game. If not, not. Unfortunately, I can't just point to another game and show you how combat goes. There ARE plenty of YouTube videos, though, and even videos right here on Steam. Poking through the guides could help, too.

(Luckily, it's only $10. This isn't exactly a huge risk.)

Other games you might like? Oh good, you're profile is public! Oh, not so good, ya ain't finishing much! Well, from your own backog, Witcher 1 and 2 are good stuff. Deus Ex: Human Revolution is excellent, too. Steam seems to be pushing out Final Fantasy games now, too, if you missed any of those.

[Sparky862]

Reason why some games are not completed....i use to play pirate games and complete it from there. But those days are over. So i decided to just buy some of my pirate games to support the companies and such. And im being dead serious here, im not jokeing. Witcher 1 and 2 is kick butt games, wont argue with that. I have got the cd version of witcher 2 and completed it many many times...(ending sucks though) i have also finished deus ex couple of times, i have the cd version of that to. Final Fantasy does seem like the only way to go here, but the graphics of the game doesnt do it for me. But i guess one gets use to it.

I like my games like Disgea Nights (PSP GAME) Thats my type of jrpg. A game similair to Disgea Nights you can find on steam The Legend of Heroes Trails in the Sky.

Also i did went and watch videos, couldnt find good reviews, but the gameplay looked fun and all and it also looked like a game i would enjoy, despite the fact that the reviews were bad. So i went and bought it.

Oh ja, another reason for not completeing games.....i jumps alot, and never stick at 1 game. One day i feel like jrpg, other days i feel like fps....the i feel like rpg games and then ace combat games....lol so as you can see, my taste in games is a mix match

[Zloth]

A reformed pirate! Welcome to the Light Side! ;)

The jumpy thing is important - this game ain't easy. It's not difficult because you need precise timing, though. I think it's mostly difficult because the battle system is very new and yet doesn't pull a lot of punches. You'll get beat by the random number generator sometimes, too, which can be frustrating. If you're jumpy, you're liable to jump elsewhere and not come back. (Hopefully you'll jump to one of my guides instead!)

[Sparky862]

Well, so far i enjoy the game and the battle system, it aint all that bad as people claim this game to be

[rojimboo]

Originally posted by Sparky862:

Well, so far i enjoy the game and the battle system, it aint all that bad as people claim this game to be

The bad reviews are almost always about the xbox version.