ZEN, this new table is IMPORTANT !

[russian_martian]

come on, Zen - it's time to bring this baby to FX. Mel, just grab this old photos of you with Gary and slap them over table at his office and say: "Let's do it!". We need Sterns in digital. Life is short.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r_-7HbZUcx0

[Lambros]

There are so many tables that would be great to see but are restricted by licensing. Virtual pinball is the only place to bypass this but it mostly lacks polish unless someone took a shine to a certain table.

[russian_martian]

if not this one newest LCD Sterns maybe (and personly i would even prefer) DMD era tables would be great like not that one new version of Metallica but older which Zen had in their office and in nearby museum at Budapest.

[MikeFulton]

I think we'd all like to see Zen make a deal with Stern, but the fact that Farsight is still selling Stern tables in Pinball Arcade suggests they still have an active license agreement. Even if it's been like 7 years since they released the last one.

[FaLumpaGus907]

Jersey Jack or Spooky would also be cool. Second chance at life in the digital market.

[C²C^Guyver |NZB|]

Zen does not have the license, they cannot "just bring it"........

[russian_martian]

Originally posted by C²C^Guyver |NZB|:

Zen does not have the license, they cannot "just bring it"........

what a revelation

[C²C^Guyver |NZB|]

Originally posted by russian_martian:

Originally posted by C²C^Guyver |NZB|:

Zen does not have the license, they cannot "just bring it"........

what a revelation

Well, obviously you didn't know this or you wouldn't have made the topic.

EDIT:

Even your wording suggests this:

"Mel, just grab this old photos of you with Gary and slap them over table at his office and say: "Let's do it!"

It doesn't work like that.....

[russian_martian]

Originally posted by C²C^Guyver |NZB|:

Originally posted by russian_martian:

what a revelation

Well, obviously you didn't know this or you wouldn't have made the topic.

obviously you could to know what they didnt have williams license some time ago too, so you could not make your post.
E D I T: good advice - dont make farther guesses of what i know about this story, so bunch of people who are long enough follow this story would't have good laugh on you

[C²C^Guyver |NZB|]

Originally posted by russian_martian:

Originally posted by C²C^Guyver |NZB|:

Well, obviously you didn't know this or you wouldn't have made the topic.

obviously you could to know what they didnt have williams license some time ago too, so you could not make your post.

....and how long did it take before Zen got the Williams license? Not overnight.

Even Stern lost licenses. Notice you cannot buy AC/DC anymore?

What you're not getting is, it's nowhere near as simple as saying "I want ____ table"....

[C²C^Guyver |NZB|]

I assure you, no one is laughing at me and those who are. are uninformed.

[Takise]

They can't keep up with the regular releases of Williams/Bally tables that they have a license for...let's stop dreaming about Stern...

They announced 6 Williams tables for this year which they corrected by half and now it's October and they haven't released a single one this year.

One big disappointment for those who don't play the originals.

[C²C^Guyver |NZB|]

Originally posted by Takise:

They can't keep up with the regular releases of Williams/Bally tables that they have a license for...let's stop dreaming about Stern...

They announced 6 Williams tables for this year which they corrected by half and now it's October and they haven't released a single one this year.

One big disappointment for those who don't play the originals.

The new Williams pack is coming at the end of the year. This was confirmed months ago.

[Pinballwiz45b]

Originally posted by Takise:

now it's October and they haven't released a single one this year.

One big disappointment for those who don't play the originals.

That's not why Zen isn't getting Stern. Farsight completely botched their opportunity with them, now Stern is more cautious around everyone else. That said, you're leaving much on the table if Zen ditches Williams for Stern right now.

Looks like you aren't keeping up with the news. Read the description below, it clearly says "this year".

https://youtu.be/46Z8vDu9VqY?feature=shared

Expect single table releases exclusive to double licenses, like Star Trek TNG and Twilight Zone.

[Takise]

Originally posted by C²C^Guyver |NZB|:

The new Williams pack is coming at the end of the year. This was confirmed months ago.

I said it in the second sentence of my post, in a slightly different way.

[MikeFulton]

Originally posted by Pinballwiz45b:

That's not why Zen isn't getting Stern. Farsight completely botched their opportunity with them, now Stern is more cautious around everyone else. That said, you're leaving much on the table if Zen ditches Williams for Stern right now.

Why would getting a license with Stern mean that Zen had to "ditch" the Williams license? Zen has a variety of licenses besides Williams, just not for recreations.

Also, while I have no doubt that Farsight made more than a few mistakes in the situation, it seems unlikely that Stern is completely without any responsibility, even if it was just a matter of having failed to make sure that certain provisions were a part of the license agreement.

There are many possibilities going forward. Stern and Zen could come to terms and making a new licensing deal. Or perhaps we'll see an entirely new "Stern Pinball" game from another developer.

I've always thought Magic Pixel did a pretty good job with ZP, but they've never gone beyond the Zaccaria license, other than the Postal tables. Development on ZP seems to have slowed or come to a halt. Maybe that's because Magic PIxel has run out of enthusiasm for working on it, but maybe they've just run out of material for new tables,

I'm not suggesting Magic Pixel should put Stern tables in ZP, but maybe an entirely new "Stern Pinball" game from them is a possibility?