Any chance we get the Elvira tables?

[Goffman]

Scared stiff is such a fun table.

[Takise]

I was hoping we'd get Scarred Stiff this year considering they've been following the IPDB top tables in their releases.

In order of the top list, we're still missing:

Scarred Stiff
Shadow
Bram Stoker's Dracula
Flash Gordon
Terminator 2: Judgment Day

https://www.ipdb.org/lists.cgi?anonymously=true&list=top300

[Pinballwiz45b]

Originally posted by Takise:

I was hoping we'd get Scarred Stiff this year considering they've been following the IPDB top tables in their releases.

In order of the top list, we're still missing:

Scarred Stiff
Shadow
Bram Stoker's Dracula
Flash Gordon
Terminator 2: Judgment Day

https://www.ipdb.org/lists.cgi?anonymously=true&list=top300

If they were truly following the IPDB in order, we would have seen Twilight Zone in FX3 first.

I highly doubt we'll see Flash Gordon, regardless of how much as I like playing this machine. Heavy licensing for a single ball game. Plus, there's a good possibility there's not one available to Zen in Budapest.

Scared Stiff is possible, we just don't know when.

[C²C^Guyver |NZB|]

Originally posted by Pinballwiz45b:

Scared Stiff is possible, we just don't know when.

Isn't Vol. 8 the last one.....or did I miss something?

[Pinballwiz45b]

Originally posted by C²C^Guyver |NZB|:

Originally posted by Pinballwiz45b:

Scared Stiff is possible, we just don't know when.

Isn't Vol. 8 the last one.....or did I miss something?

There will be much more WIlliams coming in 2025, according to Mel.

[MikeFulton]

Originally posted by Takise:

I was hoping we'd get Scarred Stiff this year considering they've been following the IPDB top tables in their releases.

In order of the top list, we're still missing:

Scarred Stiff
Shadow
Bram Stoker's Dracula
Flash Gordon
Terminator 2: Judgment Day

https://www.ipdb.org/lists.cgi?anonymously=true&list=top300

There are more "missing" tables than that. Out of the top 40 tables on that list, there are 27 Bally-Williams releases, and 7 of those are not yet in FX. According to your theory, wouldn't they be at the top of the to-do list for Zen? Yet the two tables they've announced so far for Williams Vol. 8 are NOT part of those 7 tables.

[Takise]

This is not my theory, I just stated the fact that we are missing these tables if we look at this list. In reference to the post regarding Scared Stiff.
It doesn't matter to me what tables they publish, as long as they publish them and do it more regularly than this year.

[ak64]

Taxi and Elvira are my two favorite tables other than Medieval Madness so I really hope they add them at some point

[MikeFulton]

Scared Stiff is a table that keeps me coming back to Pinball Arcade.

Generally, I would prefer that Zen concentrate on NEW tables that many of their players don't already have in Pinball Arcade, but if they MUST walk in Farsight's footsteps (and it seems they must) then I wouldn't mind seeing Scared Stiff showing up in FX.

[Paratech2008]

I probably am in the minority wanting high speed, black knight, 8 ball Deluxe, gorgar, big guns, space shuttle, among others released.

There were many great tables in the other pinball collection that may never be available again and that's a shame.

[MikeFulton]

Originally posted by Paratech2008:

I probably am in the minority wanting high speed, black knight, 8 ball Deluxe, gorgar, big guns, space shuttle, among others released.

There were many great tables in the other pinball collection that may never be available again and that's a shame.

I wouldn't say you were in the minority at all. I would love to see ALL of those show up in FX some day, but as long as I can still play them in Pinball Arcade, it's not a big hurry to get them in FX.

Given Zen's snail's pace with adding new Williams tables, I would prefer they put their focus on tables which never appeared in Pinball Arcade.

If tables are being selected at least in part by how popular the real tables were, then why has Zen been passing over tables that sold 10.000-16.000 units or more in favor of ones that sold 1/3 as many, or less?

[ak64]

Originally posted by mfulton:

Scared Stiff is a table that keeps me coming back to Pinball Arcade.

Generally, I would prefer that Zen concentrate on NEW tables that many of their players don't already have in Pinball Arcade, but if they MUST walk in Farsight's footsteps (and it seems they must) then I wouldn't mind seeing Scared Stiff showing up in FX.

But I mean it's been years since The Pinball Arcade lost the licenses so I think it's fine if they make some of those tables because a lot of people missed the opportunity to buy them all the way back then. Also the physics in FX are better.

[ak64]

But as for tables that weren't in TPA, I'm hoping for Police Force.

[dave950lam]

AK64, Police Force is one of 3 tables to be included in Williams Vol 8. The other 'finalists' are Black Knight 2000 and Bad Cats.

Paratech, All Williams tables are available to digitize, but it seems they need an actual table in shop to do it. Hopefully the pinball HoF in that area will come through for us.

[MikeFulton]

Originally posted by ak64:

Originally posted by mfulton:

Scared Stiff is a table that keeps me coming back to Pinball Arcade.

Generally, I would prefer that Zen concentrate on NEW tables that many of their players don't already have in Pinball Arcade, but if they MUST walk in Farsight's footsteps (and it seems they must) then I wouldn't mind seeing Scared Stiff showing up in FX.

But I mean it's been years since The Pinball Arcade lost the licenses so I think it's fine if they make some of those tables because a lot of people missed the opportunity to buy them all the way back then. Also the physics in FX are better.

Let's say Zen adds 1995's Indianapolis 500 to FX. This table was previously available in Pinball Arcade, so a lot of users will already have it. More important from Zen's perspective, there are going be some users who won't buy it for FX because they already have it for Pinball Arcade.

But suppose they add Congo -- another Williams table from the same year, and which sold about the same number of units. Congo was NOT in Pinball Arcade, so it's new to all FX users. Wouldn't it make more sense to do the table that's new to everyone?

There is definitely a difference in the physics between Pinball Arcade and FX, but it's fairly subtle and even if you think FX is better, it's not such a big difference that I wouldn't rather see NEW tables rather than just an FX version of a table I already have. The bigger difference with Zen's versions of these tables is usually all the little bits of animation they like to put in, and those aren't exactly universally loved and appreciated by users.

[Samvega]

Pinball FX is the first pinball game I've bought tables for, and I would buy Elvira tables.