Something Wrong With The Graphics?

[Godspeed]

Hi,

Decided to try New Pinball FX but everything looks worse than on FX3 on maximum settings.
Whats wrong?
Am I only one who thinks this way?

Edit:
Been playing Rome Table on FX3 lately
Now, tested it with free pass on new FX Pinball and new looks worse somehow.

[Takise]

This game has absurd requirements. To play at max setting with RT in 4k you need a monster and then the game looks correct.

[Rebecca]

no, i have the same Problem.
RTX 4080, Intel 14900K, 64GB RAM
my Monitor supports 3840 x 1080, but i cant use this resolution
and it looks all like 800x600

[catboy1982]

Originally posted by Rebecca:

no, i have the same Problem.
RTX 4080, Intel 14900K, 64GB RAM
my Monitor supports 3840 x 1080, but i cant use this resolution
and it looks all like 800x600

same minus the 4080, 49 inch user here

[Takise]

I launched the game to check and everything looks normal (4090@13900k). I play in portrait orientation, maybe it's different in desktop mode.

[MikeFulton]

Can you provide a non-subjective description of what you're seeing? Of what it is you don't like?

That is, something other than "worse" - something that doesn't rely on the subjective judgement of the viewer?

[Takise]

Originally posted by mfulton:

Can you provide a non-subjective description of what you're seeing? Of what it is you don't like?

That is, something other than "worse" - something that doesn't rely on the subjective judgement of the viewer?

I think the easiest way to explain this problem would be to post a screenshot of the game.

[Matt Beeching]

Originally posted by Rebecca:

no, i have the same Problem.
RTX 4080, Intel 14900K, 64GB RAM
my Monitor supports 3840 x 1080, but i cant use this resolution
and it looks all like 800x600

That's an aspect ratio issue, PFX does not support ultrawide e.g. 21:9 / 32:9.

[MikeFulton]

Originally posted by Takise:

I think the easiest way to explain this problem would be to post a screenshot of the game.

I don't know about "easiest" but it's a good place to start. However, For this to be very meaningful, you would have to get two screenshots - one from each game, showing pretty much the same view of the same table, so that you could point out how they're different (and presumably, which is "better").

This has already been done by others, and in those cases, at least, there was no discernible difference, at least as far as I could see. But hey, maybe it depends on the table.

[X-Vector]

Really? I'm using a 1280x960 resolution and on my monitor FX looks significantly worse than FX3, especially the Williams tables.
FX sports a very soft image due to Unreal 4 engine's TAA solution and the colours are oddly desaturated.
There's also a pronounced black ghosting effect that's evident during movement of balls or flippers (with ball trails turned off).

[Godspeed]

I'm not going to troubleshoot problems in game at anyway played it twice and will forget this game for now.

I have Ryzen 9 5950X & RTX 4070 TI

Got back to FX3 and it looks sharper and image quality is better.

Tried FX for search to find reasons to move forward but did not find any.
Maybe someday when Tables are transferred free or few €uros I consider this again.

By that time maybe this FX is coming obsolete again and I don't find this appealing practice.

Good Day

[GMC79]

Game looks great, Defo better than FX3. 7700x/2080. 1440p Ultra settings (RT off). Steady fps limit 144hz

[FoxyLoxy]

Originally posted by GMC79:

Game looks great, Defo better than FX3. 7700x/2080. 1440p Ultra settings (RT off). Steady fps limit 144hz

PFX and FX3 look much the same to me. Almost identical in most cases.
(I've A-B switched between screenshots of both at all resolutions, including 4K, and RT.)

RT doesn't seem make a lot of difference except for frame rate.
HDR is a noticeable difference, but it's not my thing.

3060, 1440p, highest settings, 120fps.

If I had to sum up PFX, compared to I'd say it's "more of the same" except for longer loading times and a clunkier UI.

On the one hand it's a considerable achievement that they were able to faithfully replicate the look (if not the feel) of FX3 with the transition to the Unreal 4 pipeline. But on the other hand, these tables do not look "remastered".

I think the real benefits of the UE shift will be in new tables (esp. DMDs) and Zen's costs/productivity, rather than improving existing tables.

[GMC79]

Originally posted by FoxyLoxy:

Originally posted by GMC79:

Game looks great, Defo better than FX3. 7700x/2080. 1440p Ultra settings (RT off). Steady fps limit 144hz

PFX and FX3 look much the same to me. Almost identical in most cases.
(I've A-B switched between screenshots of both at all resolutions, including 4K, and RT.)

RT doesn't seem make a lot of difference except for frame rate.
HDR is a noticeable difference, but it's not my thing.

3060, 1440p, highest settings, 120fps.

If I had to sum up PFX, compared to I'd say it's "more of the same" except for longer loading times and a clunkier UI.

On the one hand it's a considerable achievement that they were able to faithfully replicate the look (if not the feel) of FX3 with the transition to the Unreal 4 pipeline. But on the other hand, these tables do not look "remastered".

I think the real benefits of the UE shift will be in new tables (esp. DMDs) and productivity, rather than improving existing tables.

Yeah but some tables just look great and can tell it's a decent step up. Garfield for example just looks so sharp and llovely. In general yeah it's better but not huge.

Agree on the loading, the after game time is slightly annoying. I know it's only mayb 6 secs untill score comes up but ruins the flow to get into a new game.
Also miss the progression of the table mastery think they should have kept that all the same.

[mesaone]

If you've got it set to a high resolution but it still looks low-res, go to Settings > Video > Advanced and change Upscaler Method to Off, and Render Scale to 100%

[tom022000]

Like a lot of gaming, it needs the hi-tech caddy update 2023 LOL (I was playing on tate 43 inch 120hz ASUS LED ROG range 2020 and HDR portrait LED screen... RTX 2080... Well with this gear, in 2023 it's almost obsolete " I made a Pincab for friends of the week in because I didn't want to see this game on it anymore " since I was playing VPX Pinball VR with VPW Pin...)
And now in 2024 I'm coming out pinball FX on good gear (RTX4000Serie and TV LG OLED, LG G3), Pinball M a hdr 4000... Crazy stuff, it's like rediscovering every pinball machine...
Pinball FX is just the best pinball game in the world especially with Uevr (which I discovered last month (with valve index) LOL and now I really enjoy Pinball FX (this game is made for VR or bright OLED TV.) lol the pc screens, it's the worst serious scam... I even had a G9 240Hz, and it's a myth the 240 FPS A lot of games are limited to 150 fps, ...