Flipper delay

[Stevejan]

Why is it that sometimes there is a delay in the flipper response? Occasionally its so bad the ball rolls right off the end before the flipper 'flips'.
Its very annoying

[metalhead]

https://steamcommunity.com/app/2328760/discussions/0/6169410450157084395/

[Sorthious]

My monitor reverts to 60Hz refresh rate when I cut it off, and back on again. So, I have to manually change it back to 144Hz. Sometimes I forget, and the the flipper delay is horrible. There is definitely an issue with flipper latency, and it's especially noticeable if you are running at 60Hz refresh. The only other thing I could suggest aside from the refresh rate, is to make sure your controller/keyboard is hard-wired; this will also reduce latency. I'm hoping Zen will fix the issue soon. Anyway, good luck!

[Mr wyrmwood]

I just disabled v-sync and it seems to have fixed it for me. Input lag on a pinball game is beyond annoying, I very nearly gave up on this game within first 30 mins but now it seems pretty acceptable, for me anyway.

[Stevejan]

Running at 140Hz. Frame rate is rock solid but delay is still an issue

[QLIQ]

You need to go into nvidia settings and force vsync off.

[Stevejan]

Originally posted by QLIQ:

You need to go into nvidia settings and force vsync off.

Already done that, still random delays

[jadedev]

Hi folks,

I'm not sure if this discussion is related to Pinball FX or FX3, so apologies if my post is in the wrong place. I've been playing Pinball FX3 a few years. The FX versions of the same FX3 games I"m finding many with bad flipper response. I have to hit the flipper keys twice as hard to get the same response I did on the FX3 version.

I'm using a Lenovo gaming PC with NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2070 Super graphics card. I love the FX interface but the flipper issue is not making the switch from FX3 worth it.

[Don Vincenzoo 57]

Originally posted by Stevejan:

Running at 140Hz. Frame rate is rock solid but delay is still an issue

what the hell is this propaganda picture profile

[Fuller House]

I have had flipper lag since day one. I play at 165 fps with an xbox gamepad. Vsync, capping frames, nothing seems to help. I haven't tried in the past couple weeks though.

[Chelle]

Go to settings if Nvidia. Click on manage settings make low latency mode ON.

[Roz1281]

Originally posted by Fuller House:

I have had flipper lag since day one. I play at 165 fps with an xbox gamepad. Vsync, capping frames, nothing seems to help. I haven't tried in the past couple weeks though.

for what it's worth, all issues have been resolved in latest patch for me, except i still get those huge latency spikes on flipper with the official XBox pad over bluetooth.

It plays correctly if i use it wired over USB, or use any 2.4GHZ wireless pad, or keyboard.

[Sorthious]

Originally posted by Roz1281:

Originally posted by Fuller House:

I have had flipper lag since day one. I play at 165 fps with an xbox gamepad. Vsync, capping frames, nothing seems to help. I haven't tried in the past couple weeks though.

for what it's worth, all issues have been resolved in latest patch for me, except i still get those huge latency spikes on flipper with the official XBox pad over bluetooth.

It plays correctly if i use it wired over USB, or use any 2.4GHZ wireless pad, or keyboard.

Anything wireless is going to have a higher latency than wired. I'm on PC and the latency has greatly been diminished by the last patch; 06-29-23 for PC on Steam. I was playing at 120FPS on an 144Hz monitor, and, a wired keyboard. Your monitor/television is also a source of added latency; some are worse than others. It would probably be more helpful if people listed their hardware, including displays, so the developers can see who's being affected most by the latency and what the root cause may be. Another thing that can be done is to disable Vsync and use an FPS limiter instead, as Vsync will add some input latency as well. There are many things that cause latency. Anyway, hopefully the next patch will optimize the game and even more of the input lag will go away.

[Analog-X64]

Originally posted by jadedev:

Hi folks,

I'm not sure if this discussion is related to Pinball FX or FX3, so apologies if my post is in the wrong place. I've been playing Pinball FX3 a few years. The FX versions of the same FX3 games I"m finding many with bad flipper response. I have to hit the flipper keys twice as hard to get the same response I did on the FX3 version.

I'm using a Lenovo gaming PC with NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2070 Super graphics card. I love the FX interface but the flipper issue is not making the switch from FX3 worth it.

I'm in the same situation. Pinball FX3 works great on my custom build PC with 8-Core AMD Processor, 32GB of RAM and RTX 2060 ROG edition, decided to see what this was like and the input lag is pretty bad, as I write this comment its been exactly 4 months since the game was released. For a pinball platform that has a broken input system, how was this even release in the first place?

[Roz1281]

Originally posted by Sorthious:

Anything wireless is going to have a higher latency than wired.

I know that. What I'm experiencing is a full second or more of lag that only occurs when flipping a fast moving ball. I assume it's a driver issue, whether microsoft or intel's bluetooth drivers. After the recent PFX update, It only happens with the specific xbox series wireless pad, not other wireless controllers. Even my switch bluetooth controller's perform normally.

[Sorthious]

Originally posted by Roz1281:

Originally posted by Sorthious:

Anything wireless is going to have a higher latency than wired.

I know that. What I'm experiencing is a full second or more of lag that only occurs when flipping a fast moving ball. I assume it's a driver issue, whether microsoft or intel's bluetooth drivers. After the recent PFX update, It only happens with the specific xbox series wireless pad, not other wireless controllers. Even my switch bluetooth controller's perform normally.

Yeah...that sounds more like a driver issue. I would check forums and do a web search to see if others have any issues with that particular controller. That's why I said it would be helpful to list your full specs/hardware, so the developers can isolate the issue. 1sec+ delay would make pinball, and most games, unplayable. Also, if you can find someone else with a similar setup, you can see if they have the same input latency issues. If not, it could be something defective in your setup, corrupt drivers, outdated drivers,etc. Is it all games, or just FX4 with the latency issues on that controller?