Having trouble filling in the shoe chart

[Pockyninja]

The girl said I need to fill out this chart she made to figure out his first boots but I cant seem to fill it out. I have looked at all the stuff and she even says she thinks I have all the clues but when I go to try to click on the chart to put in information it just deselects the chart. How are you ment to use it?

[Froh]

You can't fill it. It just help you to think about the riddle.
If you figured it, just talk to the mother.

[54x]

The chart is a template for you to copy manually on your own, and it mentions all the relevant items you need to figure things out. I popped open excel, copied the format, and used it to track things, although really, you can ignore the "age" row, and just track colours that could be at age five versus patterns at age five, and fill them in as Y or N.

I've laid the reasoning out for you in spoilers below if you're stuck.

Without just giving you the answer, I'll lay out how I ruled out everything else to get the correct answer, assuming the puzzle doesn't have random elements.

Mom clearly states that no colour or pattern is repeated, so each must be unique. Thus with four options and four ages lined up, any colour that's listed explicitly as an older age must be incorrect.

The two types of shoes he mentions explicitly in his note to the shoe fairy are both from when he's older than five, so rule out the colour mentioned for each of these. The colour of boots given in the picture of Shay as a fireman at Age 8 can also be ruled out. You can find the correct pattern explicitly by looking at the bronze shoes, but not the colour or size. The medical records also mentioned that Shay grew three shoe sizes between Age 5 and Age 6, so if you assume the picture giving his shoe size is from Age 6, you then have all the information you need to full in the row for age 5.

[akarnokd]

I got the chart but when I try to talk to mom, there is no option for the shoe question.

[wusch]

Increase the size of your Head once more.

[Pockyninja]

ok so the chart is pointless I just need to answer the question to mom.

[Your Pal, Burgs]

There's a chart?

[beseen]

the chart only appears if you are too slow to answer correct, that means if you answer the wrong way multiple times.... the game has a hint engine built in....

[Mendacious Calamity]

Originally posted by Pockyninja:

ok so the chart is pointless I just need to answer the question to mom.

No, the chart has a very specific point. It's the polar opposite of 'pointless'.

Point of the chart: to help you solve the puzzle, by showing you how you're meant to use deduction to get to the answer. Y'know, with your brain :)

[Pockyninja]

Originally posted by DigitalInvestor:

Originally posted by Pockyninja:

ok so the chart is pointless I just need to answer the question to mom.

No, the chart has a very specific point. It's the polar opposite of 'pointless'.

Point of the chart: to help you solve the puzzle, by showing you how you're meant to use deduction to get to the answer. Y'know, with your brain :)

It is still pointless since you cant use the chart in game. Though you might be correct pointless isnt the best way to describe it. Poor game design may be a better term. You can easily solve the puzzle without using the chart and in fact I did solve it without using the chart. While it is true I got the chat because I didnt solve it correctly the first time that was more a matter of lazyness. By the time I had got around to recieving the question I had long since forgot all the clues to the answer. It isnt a matter of using your brain so much as running back and forth over long distances to revisit clues you had no way of knowing you would need in advance or taking down note of every single thing that you see.

[akarnokd]

Originally posted by wusch:

Increase the size of your Head once more.

This was my first try but the teleporter refused to take claiming my head is too big.

[Muldjord]

This puzzle made me feel utter useless. I just read the spoilers further up, and I still don't quite get it. So, the teeth tells me the age of the snake picture, right? But... There are two teeth, and the hole between the teeth in his mouth is really tiny. So I thought it was probably one year before. I guess I'm overthinking it... Grrrr... I really wanted to solve this puzzle, but I had to use a walkthrough. Worst feeling.

[El Botijo]

Originally posted by akarnokd:

Originally posted by wusch:

Increase the size of your Head once more.

This was my first try but the teleporter refused to take claiming my head is too big.

You need two different teleporters. Order is important.

[Chaser324]

There is one aspect of this puzzle that I felt was not colorblind friendly that kinda threw me off for a while.

Looking at the drawing of Shay as a fireman, I thought the color of his boots were blue, so I eliminated that from the possible solutions. In fact the boots in the drawing were apparently purple though and blue ended up being the correct solution. The only reason I figured that out is because I accidentally misclicked on blue when I meant to click purple.

[Cat]

Originally posted by Chaser324:

There is one aspect of this puzzle that I felt was not colorblind friendly that kinda threw me off for a while.

Looking at the drawing of Shay as a fireman, I thought the color of his boots were blue, so I eliminated that from the possible solutions. In fact the boots in the drawing were apparently purple though and blue ended up being the correct solution. The only reason I figured that out is because I accidentally misclicked on blue when I meant to click purple.

But the correct answer was purple! It couldn't have been blue because his mum said that: "she has never repeted a colour and a pattern" and the shoes in the picture were blue so his first shoes had to be purple then :)

[Pockyninja]

Originally posted by Tehbunney:

Originally posted by Chaser324:

There is one aspect of this puzzle that I felt was not colorblind friendly that kinda threw me off for a while.

Looking at the drawing of Shay as a fireman, I thought the color of his boots were blue, so I eliminated that from the possible solutions. In fact the boots in the drawing were apparently purple though and blue ended up being the correct solution. The only reason I figured that out is because I accidentally misclicked on blue when I meant to click purple.

But the correct answer was purple! It couldn't have been blue because his mum said that: "she has never repeted a colour and a pattern" and the shoes in the picture were blue so his first shoes had to be purple then :)

From your answers I could guess that those colors were randomly done. In my game the fireman boots were red.