The "Journey" Costume bundle is double the price of the actual game.

[Birb]

Like many, I joined the game due to Journey. Like many, I was happy that you can look like the Wayfarer from Journey. But why is it whole €30? Journey costs €15 on average, so why is the cosmetic pack that references, not adds, the game double the price? You could buy yourself and your friend the referenced game for that money.

What the game has and lacks:

-has: The classic cape,hood and mask
lacks: The white version of the outfit, embroideries on your robe (there is three tiers).
-The Ancestors's masks.
Any Journey player will feel "emptiness" seeing anything like that missing. The robe needs more options.

-has: the default Wayfarer voice
lacks: for each level/map in Journey, the wayfarer's chime had a different tone according to the region's music. I myself prefer certain regions in Journey because of the unique chime sound.

has: still your default character's model being visible. Arms should be always hidden
lacks: the elegance your Wayfarer had with their model. Including the thin legs.
If you looked at the behind the scene for Journey, it was mentioned that this specific part had the purpose of characters being elegant and the lack of arms to prevent people from thinking of ever hitting their companion. Again, it is a crucial design.

Before anyone comes here and says "it is a f2p game bro". F2p is still aiming to making you spend money and most importantly: We want to spend money, we want to be invested in the game but "F2P" does not mean your money is meaningless and you can just throw it at anything. A store is also "Free to enter" but that does not mean it is okay that an apple costs €100 for example.

Again, we want to spend money, but we want prices that do not exploit our love for a game and prices that are, frankly, reasonable. Obviously you are not gonna add more items and features to an already launched cosmetic pack, so just reduce the price to be not higher than the actual game of which popularity you ride on.

[^3JumpinJackFlashOG]

Originally posted by Naumy:

Originally posted by Birb:

They demand €30.

they CHARGE that amount. theres no demanding being done here. the only way it could be called a demand, is if you call every price tag a "demand."

Clearly you’re dismissing the fact that this company is and many others who use the mobile gaming tactics of hustling the player base to trick, gate-keep and yes, demanding the addictive behavior to buy what they can’t have later.

Just because they don’t word it the way you want, doesn’t mean they aren’t doing it. Why would you defend such predatory tactics for a rich company that you don’t work for?

[Meowish]

Originally posted by wizard master結城晶子リ:

they really dont cause they dont own the rights to journey and TGC needs to stirke deal with sony to get the costume in game TGC made journey but sony owns the rights to it meaning they cant add nothing in game about journey with out there say so and if sony wants a price for said itme they say how much will be it or no deal thats how contracts work and ownership works

Sony owns the IP to Journey, but TGC owns the IP to Sky CotL. Which means, adding Journey Pack in Sky is a "Collaboration" which TGC may need to pay a small % of license fee to Sony. But Sony has no say on the price tag TGC puts on its own Cash Store in Sky, it's TGC that decides the final price tag.

So it's been over priced since TGC place the pack on PS Store and that price carried over to Steam, and worse, with the regional pricing adjustment on Steam, the pack may ended up more expensive than buying directly from PS. And due to it's limited time sale on PC, they try to create that FOMO thing again, to which a lot of players might not know, is that this pack is on sale all year around on the PS (since it's supposed to be PS exclusive).

For the same regional pricing difference and currency conversion difference, it may look cheap to some that only see it as a price of 1~2 meal outside, but be reminded that it may also look super expensive to others after currency conversion and may cause them the price to buy food that last nearly half a month in some countries. FYI, the costumes in some online games might even cost more than an evening gown / tuxedo suit in real life for some countries. That's why Steam's regional pricing exist to help these countries get a better price. But instead of using it to do good, TGC may have rigged the price higher than usual. With my own experience based on the price it showed me here, the pack is more expensive in the PC store compared to the PS store right now. So those who actually want to spend the money to get it, be well aware of the price difference practice.

As for the comment on "everyone else is doing it, why shouldn't TGC?", Well, when you see 5 person bullying 1 kid, does that makes them correct because there's more of them? The moral problem behind this is due to there isn't a real law to forbid something like this to happen in online games, though some countries started to enforce laws or preparing bills since mid 2023, we won't be seeing a lot of them passed as real law until late 2024 or 2025.... so these phenomenon will continues until the laws are in place to forbid irrational spending online and the overpricing in games, then the game will either need to choose to abide to the law or ban the users from the country that has such laws from accessing the game. Which ever is more profitable in the business eye.

[Naumy]

Originally posted by ^3JumpinJackFlashOG:

Originally posted by Naumy:

they CHARGE that amount. theres no demanding being done here. the only way it could be called a demand, is if you call every price tag a "demand."

Clearly you’re dismissing the fact that this company is and many others who use the mobile gaming tactics of hustling the player base to trick, gate-keep and yes, demanding the addictive behavior to buy what they can’t have later.

Just because they don’t word it the way you want, doesn’t mean they aren’t doing it. Why would you defend such predatory tactics for a rich company that you don’t work for?

youre clearly desperately attempting to reframe my points to vilify the game company.

just because yo uwant to use a word that doesnt apply, doesmnt mean they are doing it. Why would you lie about such predatory tactics for rich companies that you don’t work for?

[Naumy]

Originally posted by Meowish:

The moral problem behind this is due to there isn't a real law to forbid something like this to happen in online games, though some countries started to enforce laws or preparing bills since mid 2023, we won't be seeing a lot of them passed as real law until late 2024 or 2025....

thats not a moral problem. youre not identifying a problem. youre trying to reach for anything you can attempt to stretch into moral issues. and yes, its quite the stretch.

[Birb]

@Naumy nobody here is doing any of the "victimization" or "villifying". All we are ultimately saying is that €30 is too much ask for. Simple as.

[^3JumpinJackFlashOG]

Originally posted by Naumy:

Originally posted by ^3JumpinJackFlashOG:

Clearly you’re dismissing the fact that this company is and many others who use the mobile gaming tactics of hustling the player base to trick, gate-keep and yes, demanding the addictive behavior to buy what they can’t have later.

Just because they don’t word it the way you want, doesn’t mean they aren’t doing it. Why would you defend such predatory tactics for a rich company that you don’t work for?

youre clearly desperately attempting to reframe my points to vilify the game company.

just because yo uwant to use a word that doesnt apply, doesmnt mean they are doing it. Why would you lie about such predatory tactics for rich companies that you don’t work for?

All you did here was deflect from my points and reused my lines back to me.
I don't need to re frame anything, you're shilling for a rich company as if you work for them or with others who uses this toxic practice.

Maybe its hard for you to comprehend how the real world works. must be nice being sheltered.