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What about it? Thanks for the link, but it's not am alternative. 40+ supported games. No shader support, only things like FSR, variable shading, RIS. No advanced color correction and such.
I am excited to join the conversation and contribute with my thoughts
https://i.postimg.cc/Wb5zGmfC/20240122-013226.png
The official ReShade Discord boasts an impressive 33,779 users. My favorite ReShade showcasing ,,Digital Dreams'' channel has 152 thousands subscribers and sometimes reaching millions of views. This community is far from insignificant, and yet it is essential that we acknowledge and respect the needs and preferences of every individual, regardless of their minority status. 🌈⚧️
I lack enjoyment of fast-paced games. Luckily I have found solace in playing calm and slow-paced games that require less energy after a day of tasks. Sky has become a favorite of mine, as it allows me to peacefully follow my friends around.
I humbly appeal for the allowance and tolerance of the basic ReShade's usage. The joy from trying new effects and enhancing the visuals of my gaming experience is immeasurable. Since I don't play a lot on my own, instead I use these visual enhancements for a sense of joy and immersion when being an observer. For example one effect I use in other games enables a 3D image when wearing glasses. I enjoy all kinds of simple effects.
I only ask that you consider my perspective and the unique needs of many individuals. Let us foster an environment of inclusivity and understanding, where the diversity of our PC community is celebrated and respected. 🌈🌏
Sending you all my warm wishes
Lacerta 💓
https://i.postimg.cc/Px1zJVyB/SKY-20240122-035843-20240122020018.jpg
Yeah, the link is for dev to integrate the functions into their game.
There is shading improvements, basically known as CACAO in AMD, but it's making stuffs more realistic than pretty imo... And in most cases, it only makes slight differences, unless you're the picky type else you might not even notice those changes. In overall, AMD techlab focused more on performance upgrades, but it does corrected (updated) a lot of the past technology and make them better, stuffs like FSR (similar to Nvidia's DLSS but better) is there to makes old games look new without the need of heavy mods. As for the shading part, AMD doesn't let end-users tinker with it, rather, shader cache is there to improve performance in game play rather than improve graphic, and variable shading actually does the opposite, it lowers the graphic in dark areas to optimize performance. So the more shades the game devs put in the game causing more shadowed and dark areas, the better performance it becomes with these turned on. Unlike the old graphic tradition, "the more shades and shadows present, the heavier the game runs", these techs improves them. Significant enough that one might even call it cheating in some games due to you can really move faster with that performance boost. (Thus it's an option for devs to integrate into their own games to make it better, not for end-users to gain advantages over others)
Well, but with FSR alone the game looks amazing for screenshot enthusiast and FSR1.0 is built-in for most AMD drivers. Oh yeah, it also supports Nvidia users (but with some quality drops). Some games have integrated the function directly into their games, but some don't, so users needs to rely on 3rd party software (such as Magpie or Lossless Scaling) that helps them use FSR in all known games. Which... probably brought up similar arguments like those in ReShade, they are in the grey-zone as long as they are 3rd party software that injects dll hooks into games...
If you haven't noticed, both Nvidia and AMD officials are more keen on letting Devs add these functions in their game than letting end-users have the power to change them. If the devs do it, it's fair for everybody. If end-users do it, they could end up being called a cheater. So it's best to vote for Sky devs to implement these features in-game rather than forcing a mod on it, only them knows what is good or bad for their game. And forum feed backs, discord and all that are there to let them know what is causing troubles with their "new installation"... eg, nvidia cards lost access to the game's built-in screenshot due to their recent implementation, so they are definitely trying to improve the screenshot ability for us, just give them some time to learn and adapt. Comparing to Journey (which is made for PC), Sky (originally made for mobile) still have rooms for improvements imo...
But for most users, screenshots, like photos, are there for memory keepshakes, only a smaller groups of player are there acting as "pro-photographers" so the advanced functions are only sought after by those. For someone that have been taking digital pictures since the floppy disk era (yes, my 1st digital cam uses floppy disk), i tends to get into a habit of prioritize "quantity" over "quality" most of the time, especially when the storage space is limited, would rather upload 24k of frozen memories in HD or lower than only 200 masterpiece in 8k. They might look extremely good at the moment, but when looking back after a decade we might ask ourselves why do we even upload such image? lol
P/S: When your 1st "gaming pc" is one that doesn't have a hard disk with black and green color only monitor running on D-O/S from a floppy disk... and when your 1st PC that comes with a HDD is one that's only 20mb.... you will understand my stingy data usage habit imo...
If they do: It's stereotypical, not tolerant, and not inclusive. The Sky community is supposed to spread positive values and not phobias, fears, or bullying. I will remind you that cheating and illegality are strongly disallowed by the regulations of the ReShade server, and I won't tolerate similar associations.
https://i.ibb.co/Gppwfjd/Screenshot-20240122-154730-Discord.jpg
In the same way, people used to say that Doom players are prone to aggression and are a danger to society... Just no.
Nvidia Freestyle is built from ReShade (uses its code) and does a similar thing exclusively for Nvidia users (Intel and AMD have ReShade). Are you saying that a big brand called Nvidia spreads and creates cheating? Incorrect, neither Nvidia's project nor ReShade are cheating on their own. Their usage in competitive shooters aren't allowed, so people don't use them there, doesn't make either project bad on their own though.
Again. We are a valid and significant COMMUNITY of happy people, and not a bunch of a few sweaty little trolls living in a basement. We also grow bigger and develop every day. From business perspective demonizing or fighting us strictly is a mistake.
We don't live in the year 2000-2011 anymore. It's 2024. In the year 2011, a small insignificant game was released, called Skyrim. Sarcasm (it's not tiny or insignificant).
The old version of Skyrim was popular and active for a very long time before the release of the Special Edition, exclusively because of the wonderful modding community it has continued to be popular for so long. They released unofficial bug fixes for numerous mods. They advanced visuals with a wonderful shader injector called ENB. Year 2016, the Special Edition came out, and what have the developers done? Of course, they decided to burn down all the modding 'twisted doings', right? Nope. They released even better modding tools, focused on making the game even more stable for modding, boosted the mod limit to basically unlimited, hired some modders to produce mods in their mod store. Even the old 2011 version is quite active up to this day, people still patch and polish it and enjoy it. With the support of modding, it has achieved great financial success (they released the advanced modding tools and hired modders, as a reminder).
Please learn from them, as your negative views aren't fair. Mods are a wonderful thing if not demonized (both for devs and players), and great for the longevity of any game. Especially with visuals. New effects are created every day, new methods, and advancements. Years from now current games wouldn't change much visually and the popularity could drop, but with the use of new shaders, people could enjoy their beauty continuously. It's a good thing for every game's longevity.
I will say you are very right in the way you started, and that I support you 100% in this: There are some things which we can't do. Only developers can implement some technologies. This is why I direct my requests for variable shading and FSR3 support directly to the developers of Skyrim. But let's not flood them with too many requests, especially since the things we talk about are especially hard to implement in a game. A modular way of adding screen space shaders would be very challenging. ReShade already exists and does this, and people who are advanced enough and enthusiasts can use it if they have a need. Let's integrate into the PC community without fighting it, especially since, like I said, we are really positive people who wish well for each game we enjoy. We regularly promote each game online, often giving it wider recognition. I will show you one example of what I did yesterday: I shared some pictures I made of the game with my color grading added on the ReShade community server. What was the response?
https://i.ibb.co/pyJnymJ/Screenshot-20240122-160108-Discord.jpg
As you can see, there is positivity. The other person asked if it's an actual game or an advanced Blender engine project. With Blender, people create high-end rendering scenes, so it's a great compliment for game's visuals (essentially comparing it to a high end animation). By posting my pictures on our shader visual enthusiasts' server, I was able to make someone genuinely interested in the actual game. One person wrote such a positive compliment towards the game, and many others have seen it and could get interested as well. Sky is a beautiful game, and we all enjoy beautiful games, simply speaking. In time, many of ReShade users would try it as well, to then promote it. I remember seeing people posting pictures of Journey in the past as well, whereas Sky has much more potential.
It is completely different when we share something beautiful and can confidently respond, "Yes this is how my gameplay looks like, this game looks great in person, and shaders are a nice addition." Instead of, "Well... I took a picture of the game, and then I polished it in Photoshop for 1 hour, so it's not my actual gameplay. I haven't done much Photoshop work, though, really..".
It's much more positive to share images from a real-time gameplay. Anyone who owns Photoshop can edit an image, remove aliased choppy edges, add details, edit the whole image for an hour. But then it has nothing to do with our actual gameplay.
All my pictures are from my actual gameplay, no Photoshop used to alter the images after taking them. I only used my color grading, and I can share my color grading file with other enthusiasts who want to get the same exact result on their own screen (everything is saved in one PNG image).
So please, let's focus on popularizing the game within our respective communities and not fighting each other. Let's not start phobias, the end.
/ I said this before. Please let's move the conversation somewhere else if you want to continue it. It's not fair to flood this section with just the two of us talking, especially since we both write longer messages. I'll add you to friends and let's discuss further on our own.
Well. Skyrim's creators (my previous example) wouldn't achieve a similar success if they shared a similar opinion. No, things like scissors are a tool. It isn't bad and is made for good means. ReShade is not a cheating software. It is a tool made for good means.
"ReShade is a generic post-processing injector for games and video software developed by crosire. Imagine your favorite game with ambient occlusion, real depth of field effects, color correction and more ... ReShade exposes an automated and generic way to access both frame color and depth information (latter is automatically disabled during multiplayer to prevent exploitation) and all the tools to make it happen.
The possibilities are endless! Add advanced depth-edge-detection-driven SMAA antialiasing, screen space ambient occlusion, depth of field effects, chromatic aberration, dynamic film grain, automatic saturation and color correction, cross processing, multi-pass blurring ... you name it."
The issue arises only in competitive shooters where you can use depth buffer to see enemies and shoot them better. That's it.. Thus your argument is invalid, as Sky is not such a game. It's the least similar game to a competitive shooter you can think of.
Please don't message me here more. Respect my request.
Memories injector are, the same as cheat tool, who inject their library into a game. SweetFX might not directly inject the library into the game's executable area, but it still lodged itself into the memory that the game required. And such behavior can be detected by anti-virus or anti-cheat as offensive and red flagged. Like i said, knives, you may love your knives as much as you like, be creative with your knives in crafting your works with it, but if you brought it with you to an area you are not supposed to, accidentally or not, you will get punished by the enforcers.
I wonder how many replies it takes to hammer these information into your head?
Hmm... i am tired of cats... i probably need to get a dog that's easier to manipulate...
I responded to
1. Write a correction as I don't tolerate showing modding in a biased bad light. If someone attacked you as bad for enjoying something then I would defend you also.
2. I wrote to let you know about the invitation, and requested for us to continue the talk on our own.
I'm an individual and don't need for you to hammer / enforce your views on me. No hammering or fear spreading is going to force people to be your way. Being nice won't do this either. I told you before: Simply let people be and don't try to change them, they base their truths on experiences which aren't familiar to you. There is no just one right side.
Others already addressed what you said and have proven it wrong. The injecting part.
Take care, see you in game one day. :)
See? I knew you can't have enough of me... aww... how sweet of you. Would've give you a good rub if i can!
You can enjoy a good sun bath, as long as you are enjoying it in the correct place while the sun is up! I give you permission to that!
Nope, that guy didn't even did his homework before claiming on stuffs he didn't even know how it works. I've given him the answers and he clearly have no clue what those answers even means. You can easily prove him wrong by going to the Steam's VAC webpage if you want. He even made claims that EAC allows ReShade, no, it's not true, EAC do not ban ReShade users, but they won't let you play the game if ReShade is on.
But what worries me most is that you would rather trust someone that has no clue on what he's saying and give yourself greenlight to a risky software based on just that... See? that's the very reason i am giving out these warnings. There are those who would see these posts as green light and get into trouble. Worse, some even started to help spread these false "knowledge" without knowing the consequences and get others in trouble.
ReShade is an opensource project, everyone has access to the source code. A hacker do not need to even "download" the ReShade with plugin to use it as an injector, the regular version did that already and one can easily code it to inject something else. That's why it could never be on a whitelist. If it is, then it's a security hole for anyone that can code to bypass the AC. One don't even need to "hack" the AC in that case, a back door is wide open...
For that very same reason, there are tons of contaminated ReShade out there, with added malicious codes to infiltrate your system and then use it to do malicious stuffs. That's why the "at your own security risk" mention in the FAQ. Unless you download from the official, there's always a risk. And one can easily find a bunch of download source on the Google Search Engine, for a 1st timer, they might never be able to distinguish which is the official... Especially one that doesn't read much.
Even official source could have a chance to be contaminated, especially the more famous a software is, the more it gets targeted by bad intentions. For a small team with no white hats working to protect their data and checking the validity, there's always the risk. Even here on Steam, we have cases about hackers hacked into the creators account and use it to spread malware on Steam, nothing is perfect, always look out for possible risk to ensure your own safety.
You don't charge straight at the eye of eden, you look for possible shelters and proceed with caution... caution, that's the key point to survival.
As for the Cheating part, Depth and Zoom is not the only unfair ReShade brought on the table. There's that brightness adjustment that one can set on a shortcut key for fast trigger, which gives players advantages over others in dark places. And that breaks some of the gameplay restriction here in Sky as well, dark mazes and secret hidden doorways become obvious and well-lit to these cheaters. It's not the intended way designed to find these secret, it's against the original ideas of the devs. And it's unfair to other players who braved the dark to find these secrets. ("I didn't cheat! It's dark, so i turn on the light!" Well... it's cheating when there's no light switch by default in the game
"Bring your own light" is part of the cautious measurement in Sky for better survival, true. But it turns into a complete different meaning when you bring "outside light" into the game.
That's also the biggest reason why some ReShade users think Freestyle/Ansel is not on par with ReShade, FreeStyle/Ansel remove certain functions that could've caused problem and giving unwanted advantages to some users. That's also why some games completely forbid the use of them (even freestyle) due to they broke the game's own mechanism (eg, the dark maze i mentioned). And the reason why both Nvidia and AMD now (actually since 5 years ago) operates in a way that they let the devs implement these functions into their games, and not let end-users have their own go on what to be added in the filter. So only the devs knows what's good or bad to enable for their users in these settings. FreeStyle/Ansel only works in (supported games) nowdays, the game is required to integrate their dlls into the game folder to work, and FedilityFX is strictly dev use only (well, almost). 3rd party software maybe used to force these onto unsupported games, but that, is counted as mod and enhancing, just like ReShade, and are counted as grayzone and might get blocked by AC or banned, so unless the game allows (support) it, you won't be able to use them unlike ReShade that injects itself into anything without the need of an invitation. If Alt+F1 works on Sky like someone reported, then it means Sky do have the Nvidia required library implemented already. They just haven't officially announce the compatibility. From the look from Nvidia players can't take snapshot bug lately, that's probably the case of the delays.
You surely want it down and disallowed investing if so much time in cherry picking criticism... Stop and please calm down the dislike for modding. Focus on something else. I saw that you also help people on different topics, this is a positive action. Focusing on criticizing does less good. So let's both focus on helping. :)
You haven't used ReShade before, so putting down this way an experienced user who regularly takes care of the technical matters is quite unusual and not a good look. This is my opinion.
I had no interest starting this all over again. I refered to:
So quoting the experienced user (it was in my previous quote):
"Many statements are being made that are simply not true - which is also being backed up by "Google Bard" (lmao, dont use ai for research...)"
"The next thing that I can already hear is "well, what if someone modifies how ReShade works, it is open source afterall." To this I state the same thing as before. If the developers cared to block ReShade as a whole, or any other graphics injections, they could simply allow/disallow specific graphics injections meeting the requirements via a hash function so that only official builds of ReShade could be injected.... EAC (Easy Anti-Cheat) does this very well."
"> And like i explained, putting it on a whitelist risk security hole as one can then use ReShade to bypass the security check to inject their cheats into the game.
While ReShade *can* do this with an addon that is developed specifically for ReShade's addon function - the non-addon build of ReShade can be properly whitelisted as it has a seperate hash. The developers of Sky likely know this. Seeing as this is a community fourm, I do not expect individuals to know more complex situations like these, or how this functions - however, the short version is."
If you want to address the quotes: Please skip back to the first page and quote the person directly, so they know it's for them. I'm another person and can't address some of the things you mentioned.
Take care. ✌️
Wow, what? You are seriously summarizing boosting brightness as cheating? You mentioned a gamma slider before. You can use all kinds of apps or monitor's setting to boost gamma, overblown shadows and see details better, also with one button or shortcuts. Not that it would let you see in the dark LOL. This is absolutely not how color space works. Dark rooms are mostly black, and you can't bring out details where there are none.
You literally stated that gamma control is a safer alterative to ReShade before. Looks like it isn't. Even if it's a monitor setting - Someone could stop before going to the maze and change the setting, it's not like there is hurry even with shards or Eden (change setting beforehand). Pfff
I'm not sure if you should be taken seriously if you see visual shader enthusiasts as cheaters, danger, bad etc.
Had to respond to it as I work on image grading in real life. Anyway, don't reach to me when criticizing someone else's quotes. You can refer to this current message if you have to.
By the way, you've been "assuming" others who's suggesting caution on ReShade for not using it. And thought that only Sky Devs here knows how to code. You even dismiss the possibility that a coder or a game dev or even someone that can hack might be talking to you right now... yes, blind as a bat, mad as a hatter... and you keep repeating "That's a black circle!" without the ability to see the other "black circle", and both are linked to a cute little head on a bigger picture... pity... and kinda sad too that your view is that narrow. I know your "black circle" as i said before, and i am seeing the whole head of mickey mouse while all you see that that small small part of it.
I'm not interested in ego fights about who knows more.
Yes, I said that gamma control is not an equivalent for image grading. As lowering it or boosting it makes the image look worse and incorrect. Crushed blacks (darker) or overblown blacks (brighter).
But it can be surely used for what you specified. You literally stated that gamma control is a safer alterative to ReShade before. Looks like it isn't. It is a source of scary cheating in the competitive game called Sky (sarcasm).
"and i am seeing the whole head of mickey mouse while all you see that that small small part of it." - Ok. You literally ignore any benefit coming from ReShade mentioned, seeing only blacks. But it ain't about us tho, or who is better.
BTW. You are linking stuff about competitive shooters again, Sky ain't one
And there ARE examples of devs banning the use of ReShade based on that, and since you wanted us to go into details with you, that's the very reason why Sky will not acknowledge the use of it, it breaks the game's mechanism and game play. And the more we are at the core of this "why", the more you're freaking out and panicking... we can easily read it from your text, like "Crap, they found out i used that for cheating the maze!"
It caused unfair advantages over others, that's all it needs to take for a player to complain about "cheating". And for online games, that's not a good thing. You can hack the game all you like in offline games with ReShade, but not in online games, especially ones that have darkness as a game mechanism. Period. Don't rub it on the face of the dev on stuffs they disallowed but kept an eye shut... There are no AC on Sky that prevents you from using it now, don't force it to be placed by making a big fuss about it.
What's your issue? I wrote "Yes, I said that gamma control is not an equivalent for image grading. As lowering it or boosting it makes the image look worse and incorrect. Crushed blacks (darker) or overblown blacks (brighter).
My old message:
"Secondly, regarding your statement, "Especially the reason why most people like ReShade is the darker color that looks as if it's richer, but it's something we can tune to get a similar effect, e.g., setting gamma to a darker shade." "So it's not worth the risk of installing the app, and like I said, there are safer alternatives that do exactly the same thing."
Here, you have incorrect information. Of course, we don't need to know everything, but you stated this as a fact, so I can correct it. We are all constantly learning, so I will just say that setting gamma is absolutely not equivalent to real color grading. It is not just a matter of making the image darker or brighter. There are no tools other than ReShade that allow for real color grading or the addition of other safe color space effects. No other tool allows control over highlights, medium tones, shadows, black and white levels, saturation for each hue, vibrance, clarity. Changing gamma in monitor settings actually worsens the image to be incorrect, as it shifts the entire gamma curve and crushes shadows (if you lower it) or blows them out (if you boost it). ReShade allows loading a full Photoshop color grading and enjoying it in real-time in the game. I encourage you to visit ReShade's server on Discord, a friendly place which has nothing to do with cheating (talking it is actually prohibited there ⚠️), and see people's work. It is hardly just making the game darker..""
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The games with similar redirections are competitive shooters, all your links are to similar cases. Sky isn't one.. You stated before that gamma control is safer than ReShade, but now you shoot yourself in your foot by stating that brightness alterations can be used for cheating. Then gamma control ain't safer.
I end it for good. You are acting rude and having fun at someone's cost. I'm not in a good humor from all of this unlike you. I told you that I have health struggles and writing is hard, so cherry picking to seek tiny issues and provoke mockingly is amoral and wrong. Think about your own behavior.
Girl I'm serious, you had laughs let's leave it in peace now. My full time job is taking care of my illness and not putting effort into responding to picky comments. To build your ego focus on helping others.
I don't care about ReShade as much (positively) as you care (negatively). If devs restrict it then so be it.