The Steam Release Was A Mistake

[Cel]

So far I've seen

- People getting harassed just for playing music in a public space

- Homophobic and transphobic vitriol over a yearly event involving rainbows

- Me getting banned for no reason (best guess is I collected the free spells too fast for someone and they reported me, I got a warning after doing something similar during the Cinnamoroll event)

I've absolutely adored this game for a while and I used to love playing it with others, but after this game came to Steam the community's just become so filled with hateful and rude people that it makes me no longer want to play.

[Cel]

Originally posted by dandykong:

Originally posted by Cel:

If you're going to accuse multiple people who were literally following the rules of cheating for no reason, maybe you shouldn't be commenting on here.
Also, anticheat programs are bs cause they'll just randomly mark anything as cheating. Hel, there's a whole issue with people just tryna play games on Linux systems getting falsely flagged and banned off a myriad of games just because they use Linux.

It's already been confirmed by TGC that there are no automated bans, only chat filter warnings. You have to personally get busted by a dev.

And you may not have gotten banned for cheating at all. Think carefully about the last conversation you had before the hammer fell.

The last convo I had in-game was long-before I got banned, so either they're lying about not having automod or one person on the mod team just has it out for me or somethin.

[Cel]

Originally posted by Meowish:

Originally posted by Melvin The Narcissistic:

Do you work for this company or any affiliation?

You've been asking that all the time... so i am going to ask back... why do you need to know? Did you know that keep asking questions that someone doesn't want to answer is harassing and can be reported? :winkycat:

You're literally under every single person's complaints or questions about the game.
People can have negative opinions about something you like, you know, as well as get upset at you bootlicking for a company.

[Meowish]

Originally posted by Cel:

You're literally under every single person's complaints or questions about the game.
People can have negative opinions about something you like, you know, as well as get upset at you bootlicking for a company.

Define bootlicking. Telling the truth about something and troubleshooting for a problem are different things than "defending" a company. If TGC is in the wrong i won't be backing them up as you can see from my post history
But when you started thinking (rather mistaking) someone for bootlicking, you're not in the correct mind state to judge due to you're unhappy or frustrated while trying to defend your own theory, especially when someone told you it's wrong (and you can't find a way to back up your own theory). Most reverted to childish replies and behavior (regardless their age) when it comes to this. And some even start thinking the world is plotting against them in their negative mind state... these type of players are also easily involved in quarrels and hate speech, which, makes them vulnerable to player report... the advise is, keep calm and you will see what others are trying to tell you.

Oh, and there's some bad example on this forum that the guy isn't here to get answers, he's just here to cause trouble and spread false info for others (you can easily read a person by going to their chat history), but i believe you're not that, you're just frustrated that your account is banned and couldn't think correctly under that heat of frustrations.

Like i said before, if you think you're not in the wrong, you can appeal, and it will work if you provide enough evidence to prove your innocence. It's against the LAW itself to punish someone without a clear reason, if you think they ignored you and doesn't want to answer why you're banned in the 1st place, get a lawyer with a warrant and TGC won't be able to refuse your request on asking why you're banned. After getting your "answer" about the ban, work forward to prove your innocence if you think you're banned incorrectly. (Note, for someone on the forum to help you, you have to first start that 1st step to appeal and get the reason behind your ban. Tell us the reason provided by TGC here and we may continue to advice what you can do next if you're at lost)

[Cel]

Originally posted by Meowish:

Originally posted by Cel:

You're literally under every single person's complaints or questions about the game.
People can have negative opinions about something you like, you know, as well as get upset at you bootlicking for a company.

Define bootlicking. Telling the truth about something and troubleshooting for a problem are different things than "defending" a company. If TGC is in the wrong i won't be backing them up as you can see from my post history :winkycat:
But when you started thinking (rather mistaking) someone for bootlicking, you're not in the correct mind state to judge due to you're unhappy or frustrated while trying to defend your own theory, especially when someone told you it's wrong (and you can't find a way to back up your own theory). Most reverted to childish replies and behavior (regardless their age) when it comes to this. And some even start thinking the world is plotting against them in their negative mind state... these type of players are also easily involved in quarrels and hate speech, which, makes them vulnerable to player report... the advise is, keep calm and you will see what others are trying to tell you.

Oh, and there's some bad example on this forum that the guy isn't here to get answers, he's just here to cause trouble and spread false info for others (you can easily read a person by going to their chat history), but i believe you're not that, you're just frustrated that your account is banned and couldn't think correctly under that heat of frustrations.

Like i said before, if you think you're not in the wrong, you can appeal, and it will work if you provide enough evidence to prove your innocence. It's against the LAW itself to punish someone without a clear reason, if you think they ignored you and doesn't want to answer why you're banned in the 1st place, get a lawyer with a warrant and TGC won't be able to refuse your request on asking why you're banned. After getting your "answer" about the ban, work forward to prove your innocence if you think you're banned incorrectly. (Note, for someone on the forum to help you, you have to first start that 1st step to appeal and get the reason behind your ban. Tell us the reason provided by TGC here and we may continue to advice what you can do next if you're at lost)

If you aren't actually working for TGC and don't know their internal protocols and policies when it comes to this sort of thing you shouldn't softmod for them.
You don't know anything, you're giving the wrong info, you're blaming people who have issues with TGC and how they handle things, you're doing more harm than good.

[Meowish]

Originally posted by Cel:

If you aren't actually working for TGC and don't know their internal protocols and policies when it comes to this sort of thing you shouldn't softmod for them.
You don't know anything, you're giving the wrong info, you're blaming people who have issues with TGC and how they handle things, you're doing more harm than good.

If you start seeing other's who try to help you as "blaming" or even "harming" you, then you seriously needs to calm down.

By the way, i wasn't modding here. Just doing the standard troubleshooting for others in hope to collect some free steam points. This game is filled with sooo many bugs and yet it's such a simple game, which we can easily remember a lot of details without needing a huge manual book, it makes a good target for such thing without resorting to do the foolish ways like collecting the clowns. And this is a forum, i do ended up in conversations like this one. And I normally just point out something that's not right if it's harmful to others or add additional infos that's lacking that someone might not noticed.

Well, the main reason i can view these in a bigger picture is because i didn't reply due to it's "Sky Cotl", nor do I care much about the game itself, but rather from the perspective of a veteran MMO player who started online gaming back in 1997 and seen the whole history since dial-up internet era (Probably earlier if you count LAN and phone to phone dial up connection). Those experiences turned into knowledge over time and can be helpful during troubleshooting and hotfix advises.

If it looks like i am modding due to I tried to bust someone's false info lately, that's because he poked me enough to trigger me to poke back, that's all. Was ignoring him at first since he's doing it with 2 dummy accounts and it's a waste of time for someone who wanted attention like him. But the false info he spreads ended up harmful for some users here in need of accurate info, and i thought i might put a stop to it and tell those new to the forum what he's been up to. Real moderators do not involve in fights or quarrel like these, they just quietly hit the ban hammer if someone breaks the rule. And mods are not recommended to join in the conversations nor oppress hate speech of the players due to Steam's moderation guidelines.
https://partner.steamgames.com/doc/marketing/community_moderation#3
As you can see, what i did on the forum here are mostly stuffs mods are not recommended to do. If i seemed to have oppress free speech and hatred, that's probably due to my habit of throwing out the truths to strangers. So my apology in advance as getting of age seemed to make the lips lighter than usual and i started to nag... lol! But trust me, if you are not in the wrong and needed the help, i am all ears.

[Cel]

Originally posted by Meowish:

Originally posted by Cel:

If you aren't actually working for TGC and don't know their internal protocols and policies when it comes to this sort of thing you shouldn't softmod for them.
You don't know anything, you're giving the wrong info, you're blaming people who have issues with TGC and how they handle things, you're doing more harm than good.

If you start seeing other's who try to help you as "blaming" or even "harming" you, then you seriously needs to calm down.

By the way, i wasn't modding here. Just doing the standard troubleshooting for others in hope to collect some free steam points. This game is filled with sooo many bugs and yet it's such a simple game, which we can easily remember a lot of details without needing a huge manual book, it makes a good target for such thing without resorting to do the foolish ways like collecting the clowns. :winkycat: And this is a forum, i do ended up in conversations like this one. And I normally just point out something that's not right if it's harmful to others or add additional infos that's lacking that someone might not noticed.

Well, the main reason i can view these in a bigger picture is because i didn't reply due to it's "Sky Cotl", nor do I care much about the game itself, but rather from the perspective of a veteran MMO player who started online gaming back in 1997 and seen the whole history since dial-up internet era (Probably earlier if you count LAN and phone to phone dial up connection). Those experiences turned into knowledge over time and can be helpful during troubleshooting and hotfix advises.

If it looks like i am modding due to I tried to bust someone's false info lately, that's because he poked me enough to trigger me to poke back, that's all. Was ignoring him at first since he's doing it with 2 dummy accounts and it's a waste of time for someone who wanted attention like him. But the false info he spreads ended up harmful for some users here in need of accurate info, and i thought i might put a stop to it and tell those new to the forum what he's been up to. :laughcat: Real moderators do not involve in fights or quarrel like these, they just quietly hit the ban hammer if someone breaks the rule. :winkycat: And mods are not recommended to join in the conversations nor oppress hate speech of the players due to Steam's moderation guidelines.
https://partner.steamgames.com/doc/marketing/community_moderation#3
As you can see, what i did on the forum here are mostly stuffs mods are not recommended to do. :kisscat: If i seemed to have oppress free speech and hatred, that's probably due to my habit of throwing out the truths to strangers. So my apology in advance as getting of age seemed to make the lips lighter than usual and i started to nag... lol! But trust me, if you are not in the wrong and needed the help, i am all ears. :winkycat:

You aren't helping. You're bootlicking and blaming others for getting banned for no reason and giving links that do nothing.
Seriously, get a life, dude. There's better things to do than d-riding a company you know nothing about.

[Meowish]

Originally posted by Cel:

You aren't helping. You're bootlicking and blaming others for getting banned for no reason and giving links that do nothing.
Seriously, get a life, dude. There's better things to do than d-riding a company you know nothing about.

We can't help unless you let us.
And we can only start helping when you get the reason behind your ban from the company
https://thatgamecompany.helpshift.com/hc/en/17-sky-children-of-the-light/contact-us/?contact=1

[Cel]

Originally posted by Meowish:

Originally posted by Cel:

You aren't helping. You're bootlicking and blaming others for getting banned for no reason and giving links that do nothing.
Seriously, get a life, dude. There's better things to do than d-riding a company you know nothing about.

We can't help unless you let us. :winkycat:
And we can only start helping when you get the reason behind your ban from the company
https://thatgamecompany.helpshift.com/hc/en/17-sky-children-of-the-light/contact-us/?contact=1

You can't help because you don't work for TGC. Stop acting like you do.
And I and plenty others have tried to appeal bans and report issues and nothing ever is done, but you don't care about that do you

[Meowish]

Originally posted by Cel:

You can't help because you don't work for TGC. Stop acting like you do.
And I and plenty others have tried to appeal bans and report issues and nothing ever is done, but you don't care about that do you

Only if you tell use why you are banned, the company should provided you with a reason when you contacted them. Those info might spun a solution here where forum members knows what to do with the info you don't find "helpful". And may teach you how to overcome it.

Since you didn't remember, you were here on the forum complaining about getting warped to a different nest other than yours, which leads to clues about you might be having connection problem with the game. So when you claimed you're being banned mistakenly, i believe in you, due to there are chances that ping lag being detected as speedhack in some games.

But instead of letting others help you, you jumped to conclusion that we are here to harm or frame you. And the more you reply with a bad attitude, the more clues lead to it might not be a cheat ban after all but behavior ban, it's not hard to "judge" someone when we wanted to do so. But like i said before, if you think you're being banned wrongly, and can prove the reason behind the ban is wrong. Tell us about it, and we can give you insight on what to do to get your account back. If there's a reason why you can't let others help you with it then tell us that reason so we may help you overcome it. That's what the community forum are for. One does not need to work for a game company to help in such matters, especially in such matters, where you need someone to view the stories from both sides.

[Cel]

Originally posted by Meowish:

Originally posted by Cel:

You can't help because you don't work for TGC. Stop acting like you do.
And I and plenty others have tried to appeal bans and report issues and nothing ever is done, but you don't care about that do you

Only if you tell use why you are banned, the company should provided you with a reason when you contacted them. Those info might spun a solution here where forum members knows what to do with the info you don't find "helpful". And may teach you how to overcome it.

Since you didn't remember, you were here on the forum complaining about getting warped to a different nest other than yours, which leads to clues about you might be having connection problem with the game. So when you claimed you're being banned mistakenly, i believe in you, due to there are chances that ping lag being detected as speedhack in some games.

But instead of letting others help you, you jumped to conclusion that we are here to harm or frame you. And the more you reply with a bad attitude, the more clues lead to it might not be a cheat ban after all but behavior ban, it's not hard to "judge" someone when we wanted to do so. But like i said before, if you think you're being banned wrongly, and can prove the reason behind the ban is wrong. Tell us about it, and we can give you insight on what to do to get your account back. If there's a reason why you can't let others help you with it then tell us that reason so we may help you overcome it. That's what the community forum are for. One does not need to work for a game company to help in such matters, especially in such matters, where you need someone to view the stories from both sides. :winkycat:

Dude literally get a life

[Melvin The Narcissistic]

Originally posted by Meowish:

Originally posted by Cel:

You can't help because you don't work for TGC. Stop acting like you do.
And I and plenty others have tried to appeal bans and report issues and nothing ever is done, but you don't care about that do you

Only if you tell use why you are banned, the company should provided you with a reason when you contacted them. Those info might spun a solution here where forum members knows what to do with the info you don't find "helpful". And may teach you how to overcome it.

Since you didn't remember, you were here on the forum complaining about getting warped to a different nest other than yours, which leads to clues about you might be having connection problem with the game. So when you claimed you're being banned mistakenly, i believe in you, due to there are chances that ping lag being detected as speedhack in some games.

But instead of letting others help you, you jumped to conclusion that we are here to harm or frame you. And the more you reply with a bad attitude, the more clues lead to it might not be a cheat ban after all but behavior ban, it's not hard to "judge" someone when we wanted to do so. But like i said before, if you think you're being banned wrongly, and can prove the reason behind the ban is wrong. Tell us about it, and we can give you insight on what to do to get your account back. If there's a reason why you can't let others help you with it then tell us that reason so we may help you overcome it. That's what the community forum are for. One does not need to work for a game company to help in such matters, especially in such matters, where you need someone to view the stories from both sides. :winkycat:

You can not help players with bans on here if you’re not an employee who can do something about it. You admit yourself to judging him due to his attitude also, some players just come here to rant. not all the time ask for help for a fix that YOU have no control of. At this point you’re clearly harassing this player who you have no proof what he has done.

[Meowish]

Originally posted by Melvin The Narcissistic:

You can not help players with bans on here if you’re not an employee who can do something about it. You admit yourself to judging him due to his attitude also, some players just come here to rant. not all the time ask for help for a fix that YOU have no control of. At this point you’re clearly harassing this player who you have no proof what he has done.

Giving advise is how the community help. Even if i do work for the company there's no way i can lift a ban that has enough evidences and proves behind it. There are protocols to be followed when dealing with such stuffs. And like i said, he will need help from a 3rd party that can judge this fairly for both sides, not someone who worked and sided with the company. And to get such help (and get enough supporters), he needs to go detail with the information on the problems he's facing.

Since you're the "expert" in mitigating questions thrown at you, why not be helpful for once and give some useful advise for him to get out of his ban rather than stripping the help away from him?

If the advise you're giving is going to be something like: "Give up and face the consequences, then rant all about it and spread the toxic that you hated so much on Steam Community and become part of that toxic you hated". Then you've already judged and sentenced him. Silently.

He claimed to be misjudged by the reports, why not give him a chance to explain and reclaim what's rightfully his? (or hers)

[Melvin The Narcissistic]

Originally posted by Meowish:

Originally posted by Melvin The Narcissistic:

You can not help players with bans on here if you’re not an employee who can do something about it. You admit yourself to judging him due to his attitude also, some players just come here to rant. not all the time ask for help for a fix that YOU have no control of. At this point you’re clearly harassing this player who you have no proof what he has done.

Giving advise is how the community help. Even if i do work for the company there's no way i can lift a ban that has enough evidences and proves behind it. There are protocols to be followed when dealing with such stuffs. And like i said, he will need help from a 3rd party that can judge this fairly for both sides, not someone who worked and sided with the company. And to get such help (and get enough supporters), he needs to go detail with the information on the problems he's facing.

Since you're the "expert" in mitigating questions thrown at you, why not be helpful for once and give some useful advise for him to get out of his ban rather than stripping the help away from him? :winkycat:

If the advise you're giving is going to be something like: "Give up and face the consequences, then rant all about it and spread the toxic that you hated so much on Steam Community and become part of that toxic you hated". Then you've already judged and sentenced him. Silently.

He claimed to be misjudged by the reports, why not give him a chance to explain and reclaim what's rightfully his? (or hers)

It’s one thing to help, it’s another to keep bothering her about it. You already gave her the contact link and all, your “job” is done. But you still keep pressing on her to the point of you just trying to bait each response out of her. Just leave players alone , there is a limit to replying in flooding all the threads you keep hijacking in.

[Meowish]

Originally posted by Melvin The Narcissistic:

It’s one thing to help, it’s another to keep bothering him about it. You already gave him the contact link and all, your “job” is done. But you still keep pressing on him to the point of you just trying to bait each response out of him. Just leave players alone , there is a limit to replying in flooding all the threads you keep hijacking in.

He has all the rights to refuse the help and seal the case. There's no forcing on it. But a good advisor will try to help him get out of the situation he's in, not giving up on him. And like in my 1st post suggested, it's not mentally healthy to stick to a game for too long anyway, so i never did force him to keep playing this game and suggested otherwise, up until he brought up the ban thingy, which people with experiences of getting banned (you know i do right?) can help give advises on based on experiences.

[Melvin The Narcissistic]

Originally posted by Meowish:

Originally posted by Melvin The Narcissistic:

It’s one thing to help, it’s another to keep bothering him about it. You already gave him the contact link and all, your “job” is done. But you still keep pressing on him to the point of you just trying to bait each response out of him. Just leave players alone , there is a limit to replying in flooding all the threads you keep hijacking in.

He has all the rights to refuse the help and seal the case. There's no forcing on it. But a good advisor will try to help him get out of the situation he's in, not giving up on him. And like in my 1st post suggested, it's not mentally healthy to stick to a game for too long anyway, so i never did force him to keep playing this game and suggested otherwise, up until he brought up the ban thingy, which people with experiences of getting banned (you know i do right?) can help give advises on based on experiences. :wadacat:

Calling it “not giving up on him” while she is literally telling you to stop is scary how you can’t comprehend the person saying no and to leave them alone. Read the room, you are NOT the community so let others help others. It’s not healthy to be on these forums and act like it’s your job.