Bad piled on bad

[Random Axis]

This is the first demo I've played in a long time that I actively quit from dissatisfaction rather than boredom. This is the first impression of your game. That it's this annoying right out of the gate is not a good sign. Some specifics

* WHY IS THE VOLUME SO LOUD WHEN I OPEN THE GAME AND IT TAKES SO LONG TO BE ABLE TO TURN IT DOWN? Sorry for shouting, but that's the only way to be heard over the volume coming out of my speakers. Could I have exited to the desktop and lowered the computer volume? Sure, but if I have to alt-tab out of your game to make it bearable I'm just going to alt-F4 instead.

* How is it possible in the year 2023 that controls can't be remapped? If the answer is that it's coming later, that means it's not ready for the public. This is an automatic thumbs down that the game has to try and be awesome enough to recover from, and I've got bad news about this one.

* Who's playing the game, me or the devs? The gameplay loop at the start is: walk and do a thing for 5 seconds, watch 10 second cutscene, repeat, and I'm being generous calling it a cutscene. It's really the camera looking at one thing and a sentence appearing on the screen. Every one of them should be push a button to end it. That suits fast readers like me and slow readers that need more time.

* Busy work, busy work, busy work. Those five seconds aren't very fun. Why do I need to light every candle individually? They're all right there. One FWOOSH should light them all. If later on there will be hidden candles, you should be making that explicit early that I need to look around because this is just a chore. In that same vein, why do I need to push a button get/level up my wing? No resource I can see was consumed, so there's never a time I wouldn't want to do it. What's the button press for?

[Vioræn]

> Every game does this. If your speakers are on loud, you should have learned to pre-emptively turn them down when starting a new game.

> I agree that keyboard remapping should come. This is a pre-release version of a mobile port, so try sending some feedback to the devs so they're more aware of this.

> Welcome to the intro of a video game I guess? I think it's meant to tell you "This is a slow game. Expect a slow pace."

> Again, welcome to the intro. All future groups of candles are lit with a single keystroke. As for the wing, it could be clearer but you could also figure it out fairly easily. You gather a certain amount of light to reach a threshold. Hit the threshold, you level up. You don't spend light, you just get more. Button press is likely for flair and kept as something players trying to beat the game/sections of the game capeless can choose to not press. It's a single key press. It's a non-issue.

[--__[-___-]__--]

you really haven't played through the game once have you.... other wise you wouldn't have an issue with the cut scenes because you can skip most of them now , yes i agree you should be able to turn cut scenes off but this is also a story based game so. i guess most of the issues your talking about are user error other then the cut scenes. ALSO not to mention this company has had this game on mobile forever but this is a demo on pc for a reason, to FIX THE ISSUES FROM PORTING IT FROM MOBILE and grow the player base, ive played sky for years and tbh this pc version is litterally just what its meant to be SKY on PC its the same game just for pc. at least give the game some time on mobile before trash talking a LITTERAL DEMO

[OdinsPride]

YOU TOOK SO LONG TO WRITE THIS BAIT POST. Sorry for shouting that's the only way people like you to sh** *** **** **. It is an art style you don't enjoy so kick rocks. Why take previous time away from your life doing anything BUT this fk-n post lmao. K bye.

[Random Axis]

Originally posted by --__-___-__--:

you really haven't played through the game once have you.... other wise you wouldn't have an issue with the cut scenes because you can skip most of them now ,

Why would I keep playing a bad game? They didn't give me any inkling I could skip later ones, why should I think that's the case. I will never understand the people that are fine with a game forcing you to eat a bowl of sawdust for the promise of a steak later.

yes i agree you should be able to turn cut scenes off but this is also a story based game so.

I didn't say I want to turn them off. I said I don't want to have to stare at a sentence it took me one second to read for another nine seconds. I want agency in the game that claims I'm the player of.

ALSO not to mention this company has had this game on mobile forever but this is a demo on pc for a reason, to FIX THE ISSUES FROM PORTING IT FROM MOBILE and grow the player base, ive played sky for years and tbh this pc version is litterally just what its meant to be SKY on PC its the same game just for pc.

I'm not responsible for looking up a mobile version of a game on Steam before I comment on a game on Steam. If this is the game from mobile, then it sucks on mobile too. A game that excessively takes away my agency and then forces me to do busy work when I have it is a bad game, hands down.

trash talking a LITTERAL DEMO [/quote}
You don't know what trash talking is if you think specifying what I didn't like and what I think would work better is trash talk.

[Random Axis]

Originally posted by Vioraen:

> Every game does this. If your speakers are on loud, you should have learned to pre-emptively turn them down when starting a new game.

The good games I play don't have intro splash screens, have me make an account, watch a long involved into lasting several minutes, and only then let me turn down the volume. My complaint is not "game is loud at the start" it's "game takes way too long to let me turn down the volume".

> Again, welcome to the intro. All future groups of candles are lit with a single keystroke.

That only makes it stupider to have to do that in the beginning when the game should be working on something engaging instead of holding down F and wiggling the mouse around.

[Random Axis]

Originally posted by OdinsPride:

YOU TOOK SO LONG TO WRITE THIS BAIT POST.

Fun fact: did you know it's possible to use all ten fingers to type and go at several hundred words per minute?

that's the only way people like you to sh** *** **** **.

Shim the rods in? I haven't touched the control panel for a nuclear reactor in decades.

It is an art style you don't enjoy so kick rocks. Why take previous time away from your life doing anything BUT this fk-n post lmao. K bye.

Stop defending bad gameplay as an art choice.

[[They/Them] ChesseTheWasp]

Skill issue

[Vioræn]

Originally posted by Random Axis:

The good games I play don't have intro splash screens, have me make an account, watch a long involved into lasting several minutes, and only then let me turn down the volume. My complaint is not "game is loud at the start" it's "game takes way too long to let me turn down the volume".

My brother in christ, Windows Volume Mixer.

[BayLeaf]

Just so you know, I'm laughing at your post.

[Goober]

Bait used to be believable, man

[Komaru]

Even as a fan of the game, I actually agree with most of your points.
I never liked the core gameplay loop of Sky with candles and stuff. It's relaxing, but it can also make your bored.

However there's many reasons why I love the game! Sky has absolutely beautifully done co-op mechanics, it has areas that are stunning for your eyes, it has one of the most interesting universes with tons of lore and attention to detail.

It's okay if you don't like it, and even I can't daily drive it, because it's boring sometimes.
But at the same time, it's still one of the coolest things I have ever played and I have met so many cool people because of this game that I personally can't roast it too harshly.

Originally posted by Random Axis:

The good games I play don't have intro splash screens, have me make an account, watch a long involved into lasting several minutes, and only then let me turn down the volume. My complaint is not "game is loud at the start" it's "game takes way too long to let me turn down the volume".

Okay I have to be honest. Your technically correct, but this is a weird statement, because I have never heard that argument before, in any games.

I'm not going to argue that your wrong or anything like that, it's just that this argument feels nitpicky, since your literally the only one talking about of it.

[Traltwin]

If your sound is up super loud by default, that sounds like a YOU PROBLEM. ;-)

[Random Axis]

Originally posted by Traltwin:

If your sound is up super loud by default, that sounds like a YOU PROBLEM. ;-)

No, I'm pretty sure the fact it takes over 5 minutes to turn down the volume is a game problem. Or did you completely miss the fact that my complaint is the time and think my complaint was the number of decibels coming out of my laptop on it's default settings which needs videos cranked up nearly full volume to be audible?

[beyond comprehension]

Privated account, bait denied

[󠀡󠀡]

Originally posted by Random Axis:

I don't want to have to stare at a sentence it took me one second to read for another nine seconds. I want agency in the game that claims I'm the player of.

as a long-time player, this is the only real problem with the game that needs addressing - it gets frustrating and tedious quickly when you're forced into cutscene after cutscene. the last two areas are particularly bad in this regard.