Love Is All Around

Love Is All Around

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N.KATA May 18, 2024 @ 3:34pm
QUESTION FOR DEVS: DRM for a singleplayer game?
I know that this game use internet to storage stats from ur gameplay but i can't get another point to put this game into the drm-games category. I take as example mgsv which uses internet to share ur stats but it's still a free drm game. It'd be cool if devs remove drm so we could play this in any moment.
Update: I'm not talking about allow playing the game without steam or turn it to "free for piracy". I'm talking about allow players playing this game with the offline mode in steam. If the point to make it fully online is "sharing stats" well you can take as reference -again- mgsv which has the same system but it allow you play the game in offline mode obviously with the stat system off.
Last edited by N.KATA; Sep 29, 2024 @ 11:30am
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总是积极思考 May 19, 2024 @ 10:35am 
I guess is related with piracy, DRM is what prevent this game from being pirated so far in my opinion...
As you can see, may other FMV games that has not DRM has been pirated...
Last edited by 总是积极思考; May 19, 2024 @ 10:36am
N.KATA May 21, 2024 @ 5:14pm 
>> i know but, again, at least devs should add or update the game to play without internet. Sometimes i can't get access to internet so playing this game is impossible.
Originally posted by N.KATA:
>> i know but, again, at least devs should add or update the game to play without internet. Sometimes i can't get access to internet so playing this game is impossible.

if internet isn't required then it's very easy to pirate the game unless you add strong Drm such as denuvo or account mechanism which is complicated.

Therefore I can accept this, because this is the way to fight piracy.
Last edited by 总是积极思考; May 22, 2024 @ 7:51am
MasterChiefX9999 May 27, 2024 @ 3:23am 
Making a game unable to pirated does not increase developer revenue. Those who play pirated games simply skip and forget about games that cannot be pirated, as they have over 100 pirated games to try.

Everyone spends money on games, including those who pirate all their games. Let's assume everyone can spend $50 a month. This includes those who pirate games, who still need money to buy hard drives to store their downloaded pirated games.

Here's a breakdown of different types of gamers:

Gamer A: Only plays 5-10 games a year. They can buy games at full price or with a 10%-30% discount during sales.

Gamer B: Only plays 11-25 games a year. They need to buy some games at a 50% discount or higher during sales.

Gamer C: Plays/tries over 100 games a year. They need to buy almost all games at a 75%-95% discount during sales.

Gamer D: Also plays/tries over 100 games a year, but doesn't buy any. They download pirated games to play/try. However, they need a lot of hard drive space to store the games they want to keep to play later/continue playing later.

For developers to maximize revenue, they need to sell to Gamers A, B, C, and D (to convert them to Gamer C).

Gamer D might consider buying original games because the cost to store some large-size games could be $10 per game. If the price of original games is about the same or lower during sales, it's better to get the original game.

To sell to all gamers, pricing must be based on what each is willing to pay. Sales should range from 10% to 15%, 20%, 30%, 50%, 75%, 90%, and 95%. If time passes and the game become unpopular, price drops may not make them much more attractive. If the game's sales are low, it needs to move to the next discount level to compete with other more popular games.

Enforcing online-only gameplay and making games unpiratable does not increase developer revenue. The requirement for online play may deter some gamers from being interested in it. Gamers who used to pay for original games will continue with original games, but the price must meet their spending budget.
Last edited by MasterChiefX9999; May 27, 2024 @ 3:35am
Just a note from me, this kind of game especially made by small c-developer is not that expensive compared to what so called AAA games that is not even better than this game to be honest.

I think we should show support by buying the game from these small developer to support and let them grow to be better than nagging for offline capability just to play the game without supporting the developer and pirate it, because I know developer of this game and many more game like this I played such as My Destiny Girls care so much about the players feedback and trying to keep improving.

I am sad that people start pirating game from small developer that is not that expensive even from day one as they gave their heart, time and passion to develop a game and cater to players feedback which even some AAA developer such as SQ, Ubi or Scamco seems doesn't have ear to hear player feedback.

Today I just noted that the dlc of this game seems to get Japanese subtitle as there is patch notes about it, the developer keep their promise to listen to the feedback of players, why don't we show support by buying the game which is priced as very reasonable price for the content and lesson you will learn by playing the game ?

And with today ages of life, internet has become necessity so it's hardly impossible if you say you don't have internet because you can use your phone as internet source for your PC/MAC and this kind of game doesn't require lots of bandwith after you downloaded the game fully.
Last edited by 总是积极思考; Jun 5, 2024 @ 5:13pm
MasterChiefX9999 Jun 10, 2024 @ 3:41am 
The developer has to understand the gaming market and the different types of gamers, such as those I describe as Gamer A, B, C, and D. Each of them can spend the same amount of money per year but a different amount of money per game. Those who play fewer games (like 10 games) can spend more per game ($50 per game), while those who play/try a lot of games (100+) have to spend less per game ($5 per game).

For those people who crack games, they do it as a hobby and a challenge to crack them in a quicker time. They crack AAA games to indie games that cost less than $1, just to show that almost every game is crackable. This includes GTA 5 on the Xbox 360 console, which the developers put so much effort into preventing from being pirated, but it still got pirated within 1 week of release on the console. Most game crackers will leave a note like "If you like this game, support the developer, buy the original game." The pirated game is meant to be free to try. But if the game price is too high, then the gamer who has played the pirated game might just say, "Sorry, your price is too high, can't afford it." Most gamers who used to play pirated games are those who play/try 100+ games per year, so they could only spend $5 per game.

As a Gamer C (myself), let's compare these two AAA game publishers, EA vs Activision.
EA - almost all of their old AAA games go down to below $10 or $5 during a sale.
Activision - only a few of their AAA games go down to below $10 or $5 during a sale.

The total EA earns from me is around $200-$300, compared to Gamer A, it may be around $400-$800. It's still good earnings and better than earning nothing from Gamer C. The total Activision earns from me is around $10-$20. Activision could earn $200+ from me if they put all their old COD games on sale at a low price.

Most of the EA games I have bought, I did not have time or space to install. They are just collections in my game library. It's the same for COD; those old COD games I already played from subscriptions, borrowing from friends/stores, or at friend house. But if it's just a few dollars, I'll get it into my game library as a collection, but I may never use it.

The developer first has to target Gamer A and B as the most profitable customers, then Gamer C and D (convert them to C). If the developer goes for a more attractive price early, it could get Gamer C to buy it at a 50-60% discount if the game is quite a new release. The pirated gamer is Gamer D, a less profitable customer, and almost all games are crackable.
JCB Sep 29, 2024 @ 8:08am 
Sorry for bumping this thread, but I was going to buy this game, until I noticed it's always online, like a lot recent asian FMV titles I'm finding.

I quite like FMV titles, but I don't always play the games I purchase right away, and it would be extremely disappointing to buy something when it's on sale, and when I finally get to play it, I can't, because servers are down, for... a single player FMV game. :steamsad:
I wish these developers would at least update the game to run offline, after a certain period of time.

Anway, I was wondering if anyone knows of a list of which of these FMV titles are always online?

So far, I found these titles to be always online (unless a recent update changed things):
-Love Is All Around
-Knowledge, or know Lady
-Breakout 13
-Beauties! They're All After Me

thank you :flamey_happy:
N.KATA Sep 29, 2024 @ 11:26am 
Originally posted by JCB:
Sorry for bumping this thread, but I was going to buy this game, until I noticed it's always online, like a lot recent asian FMV titles I'm finding.

I quite like FMV titles, but I don't always play the games I purchase right away, and it would be extremely disappointing to buy something when it's on sale, and when I finally get to play it, I can't, because servers are down, for... a single player FMV game. :steamsad:
I wish these developers would at least update the game to run offline, after a certain period of time.

Anway, I was wondering if anyone knows of a list of which of these FMV titles are always online?

So far, I found these titles to be always online (unless a recent update changed things):
-Love Is All Around
-Knowledge, or know Lady
-Breakout 13
-Beauties! They're All After Me

thank you :flamey_happy:
Knowledge, or know Lady used to be an offline game but devs updated it to be online :/ if you are looking for a good game it could be Superscout, devs told me that this game won't be online and they are currently improving the game with new updates.
MasterChiefX9999 Sep 29, 2024 @ 6:52pm 
Originally posted by N.KATA:
Originally posted by JCB:
Sorry for bumping this thread, but I was going to buy this game, until I noticed it's always online, like a lot recent asian FMV titles I'm finding.

I quite like FMV titles, but I don't always play the games I purchase right away, and it would be extremely disappointing to buy something when it's on sale, and when I finally get to play it, I can't, because servers are down, for... a single player FMV game. :steamsad:
I wish these developers would at least update the game to run offline, after a certain period of time.

Anway, I was wondering if anyone knows of a list of which of these FMV titles are always online?

So far, I found these titles to be always online (unless a recent update changed things):
-Love Is All Around
-Knowledge, or know Lady
-Breakout 13
-Beauties! They're All After Me

thank you :flamey_happy:
Knowledge, or know Lady used to be an offline game but devs updated it to be online :/ if you are looking for a good game it could be Superscout, devs told me that this game won't be online and they are currently improving the game with new updates.
TBH, Superscout is an incomplete game, the story is only first 3 hours then there is no more plot, they just filming anything like they play card game, boxing practice, etc to extend the hours (this is very boring). The story end with the main character suddenly setup a business, no ending for each of the main female characters. And for the extreme high price, false popularity (sale drop to to very low after few days the game release, real popular game their sale is continue high for many months or years) and incomplete story, I consider this is a scam. :confession_ziyan: Don't buy
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