Who are "DEI" and "SBI"?

[Grzegorz Swoboda]

And why are they so good at making games?

[Wilhelm]

Publicado originalmente por ceton27:

Publicado originalmente por Bullwark:

The people that made Angrbroda black. Imagine making an african mythological being white...

Like this https://ktempestbradford.com/gods-of-egypt-racist-whitewashed/ ..?

Its was ok for generations for bigots to today's Salt Right movement to whitewash real people, but now crying karma as they fear retribution for history people stop caring about but the bigots losing control over minorities. It was ok to shove white western culture into other people cultures as they used right leaning religion to demean and humiliate their ways of life as imperialism continues today to feed the greed of the west as rest of the world is gas lighted how living in shacks under capitalism is soooo great.

As look in the west we have man babies cry over fake people because it breaks their fragile worldview of white supremacy promoted by toxic right wing religion and ideology that they better and seeing someone even to them bring on endless stupid meltdowns. I sick of being baby mode to these crying bigots as it been ten years and nothing to being done, as I know also most people is sick of them whining over the most dumb of *&*& as they cover up that they only want to see white people in ALL media. So report me and get me banned as your free speech BS is a lie also as it more like hate speech.

1 thinks revenge is OK
2 complains about morals

[Wilhelm]

Publicado originalmente por Flushing:

Publicado originalmente por Naibreezy:

so I as black person who feels similar is also racist? Whats racist is not using black or African culture and gods and just making white people black
like y give blacks their own story and characters am I right.

Possibly.

The criticism on Angrboda's complexion is overwhelmingly made in Bad Faith, because there are far worse inconsistencies between the Narrative content of the game and the Norse source materials. So, these so called advocates of Norse Culture are only making that claim as cover.

If they actually cared about the Norse source materials, the types of criticisms they would make are that it's poor taste to have gamers assume the role of a fictional Greek deity and kill numerous Norse Gods, including the head of the Norse Pantheon. And, that it is shameful to flip the roles of Loki and Odin and portray Odin as evil.

If they make a case like that, then they could toss in an anecdote about the pigmentation of a minor entity in the Norse source materials because they're being even handed and arguing from first principles.

That's not what they're doing.

you know that when roles were reversed sensitive people all over the world would cry out loud for whitewashing. and you would clap and shed a tear for them.

[The_Dybbuk_King]

Publicado originalmente por Wilhelm:

imagine thinking that this is real and most people using these 'buzzwords' are secretly hating other people.

now THATS delusional. even more than the right winger strawmen.

Publicado originalmente por Wilhelm:

now THATS delusional

Publicado originalmente por Wilhelm:

Publicado originalmente por Flushing:

Possibly.

The criticism on Angrboda's complexion is overwhelmingly made in Bad Faith, because there are far worse inconsistencies between the Narrative content of the game and the Norse source materials. So, these so called advocates of Norse Culture are only making that claim as cover.

If they actually cared about the Norse source materials, the types of criticisms they would make are that it's poor taste to have gamers assume the role of a fictional Greek deity and kill numerous Norse Gods, including the head of the Norse Pantheon. And, that it is shameful to flip the roles of Loki and Odin and portray Odin as evil.

If they make a case like that, then they could toss in an anecdote about the pigmentation of a minor entity in the Norse source materials because they're being even handed and arguing from first principles.

That's not what they're doing.

you know that when roles were reversed sensitive people all over the world would cry out loud for whitewashing. and you would clap and shed a tear for them.

♥♥♥♥♥ my dude is actually funny

[Flushing]

Publicado originalmente por Wilhelm:

Publicado originalmente por Flushing:

Possibly.

The criticism on Angrboda's complexion is overwhelmingly made in Bad Faith, because there are far worse inconsistencies between the Narrative content of the game and the Norse source materials. So, these so called advocates of Norse Culture are only making that claim as cover.

If they actually cared about the Norse source materials, the types of criticisms they would make are that it's poor taste to have gamers assume the role of a fictional Greek deity and kill numerous Norse Gods, including the head of the Norse Pantheon. And, that it is shameful to flip the roles of Loki and Odin and portray Odin as evil.

If they make a case like that, then they could toss in an anecdote about the pigmentation of a minor entity in the Norse source materials because they're being even handed and arguing from first principles.

That's not what they're doing.

you know that when roles were reversed sensitive people all over the world would cry out loud for whitewashing. and you would clap and shed a tear for them.

Please direct me to those Norse Sources that describe Angrboda's skin complexion. Because I have not found a single source describing her as either a member of the human race, or her skin complexion.

Support this "race swapping" claim of yours

[Öxölklöfför]

ez block

[Thyri]

Publicado originalmente por Flushing:

Publicado originalmente por Wilhelm:

you know that when roles were reversed sensitive people all over the world would cry out loud for whitewashing. and you would clap and shed a tear for them.

Please direct me to those Norse Sources that describe Angrboda's skin complexion. Because I have not found a single source describing her as either a member of the human race, or her skin complexion.

Indeed. So why any other color but black is a problem?

[Fenrir_PL]

Publicado originalmente por Flushing:

Publicado originalmente por Thyri:

Yea, but some people don't like chocolate in their vanilla.

The people who actually own the rights to this product aren't hating on 1 chocolate sprinkle.

The game also made a killing.

Even a bunch of people posting here are like, I bought the PS5 version, but I am boycotting the PC release because of Angrboda.

And, apparently, that makes sense to them.

I have to admit, i had Playstation 5 Ragnarok edition - with the game included. I enjoyed the previous game - God Of War from 2018 iirc, correct me if im wrong, so i was truly expecting to have a great time playing it. But the moment i met Angrboda doing Arteus quest i simply quit the game and never came back. Sold Playstation shortly after as well tbh. This simply ruined the whole immersion for me - i was expecting viking athmosphere even though Kratos is greek origin. But when i saw Angrboda i simply thought - WTF is going on here ???
Now, i do not buy ANY game that is connected with sweet baby inc / dei ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥. No matter how good it can be, im not spending any penny for this hypocrite propaganda.
I decided to get deeper into asian games and will rather pump my money there if they can deliver games like WUKONG (GOTY!). There is so many games from the past i still did not play i do not need to sponsor this sick / cancer agenda like sbi. OKay, i was considering getting the pc version but after all this circus with banning people becouse of mods and having different view on this subject i won't. I will give my money to other studios, free of this sick propaganda :)

[The_Dybbuk_King]

Publicado originalmente por Fenrir_PL:

Publicado originalmente por Flushing:

The people who actually own the rights to this product aren't hating on 1 chocolate sprinkle.

The game also made a killing.

Even a bunch of people posting here are like, I bought the PS5 version, but I am boycotting the PC release because of Angrboda.

And, apparently, that makes sense to them.

I have to admit, i had Playstation 5 Ragnarok edition - with the game included. I enjoyed the previous game - God Of War from 2018 iirc, correct me if im wrong, so i was truly expecting to have a great time playing it. But the moment i met Angrboda doing Arteus quest i simply quit the game and never came back. Sold Playstation shortly after as well tbh. This simply ruined the whole immersion for me - i was expecting viking athmosphere even though Kratos is greek origin. But when i saw Angrboda i simply thought - WTF is going on here ???
Now, i do not buy ANY game that is connected with sweet baby inc / dei ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥. No matter how good it can be, im not spending any penny for this hypocrite propaganda.
I decided to get deeper into asian games and will rather pump my money there if they can deliver games like WUKONG (GOTY!). There is so many games from the past i still did not play i do not need to sponsor this sick / cancer agenda like sbi. OKay, i was considering getting the pc version but after all this circus with banning people becouse of mods and having different view on this subject i won't. I will give my money to other studios, free of this sick propaganda :)

So, the racism this dude holds is so strong that the mere presence of melanin animated on screen is enough to force him to sell his playstation and jump straight into conspiracy theory land.

Then, immediately goes on to scream at the clouds about "hypocrite propaganda." ♥♥♥♥♥

My dude, your "different view" is literally just you being upset you saw a black woman.

Classic.

[Flushing]

Publicado originalmente por Thyri:

Publicado originalmente por Flushing:

Please direct me to those Norse Sources that describe Angrboda's skin complexion. Because I have not found a single source describing her as either a member of the human race, or her skin complexion.

Indeed. So why any other color but black is a problem?

Is this some strawman on crack?

Noone is arguing that Angrboda should only be depicted with Dark Skin in media NOONE.

People are only arguing against her being depicted with Dark Skin in Ragnarok.

It should not be a problem if the artists chose to depict her as Black, Blue, Green, or White, in Ragnarok. But, people are making issues of her depiction in the game because she has dark skin.

[Thyri]

Publicado originalmente por Flushing:

Publicado originalmente por Thyri:

Indeed. So why any other color but black is a problem?

Is this some strawman on crack?

Noone is arguing that Angrboda should only be depicted with Dark Skin in media NOONE.

People are only arguing against her being depicted with Dark Skin in Ragnarok.

It should not be a problem if the artists chose to depict her as Black, Blue, Green, or White, in Ragnarok. But, people are making issues of her depiction in the game because she has dark skin.

Last time I checked, the mod that made her white got banned, and every woke white knight has been accusing non-stop everyone who were willing to mod her of being racist.

So... Are you blind or something?

[Flushing]

Publicado originalmente por Thyri:

Publicado originalmente por Flushing:

Is this some strawman on crack?

Noone is arguing that Angrboda should only be depicted with Dark Skin in media NOONE.

People are only arguing against her being depicted with Dark Skin in Ragnarok.

It should not be a problem if the artists chose to depict her as Black, Blue, Green, or White, in Ragnarok. But, people are making issues of her depiction in the game because she has dark skin.

Last time I checked, the mod that made her white got banned, and every woke white knight has been accusing non-stop everyone who were willing to mod her of being racist.

So... Are you blind or something?

There's a mod to change a Dark Skinned asset in a video game because people don't like that she's Black?

That's sick.

And Yes, you are Strawmaning.

Take a blank canvas and a paintbrush and Draw whatever you want. You don't get to take someone else's artistic vision, paint over it, then say why do you have a problem with my painting?

Again, there is 0 problem with depicting Angrboda as Black, Blue, White, or Green. Taking someone else's completed Artistic Expression and Changing it is not the same, not at all.

Again, noone is saying Angrboda should not be depicted as white, that's the Strawman.

People are only saying Angrboda should not be Black. I guess so much so that they have apparantly modded her skin color in the game.

[DEMOX]

Publicado originalmente por Fnord:

Any game that has consulting groups like this working on it equals wallet closed for me.

"wallet closed" lmao you are a tourist, you dont play videogames at all

[DEMOX]

Publicado originalmente por Flushing:

Publicado originalmente por Thyri:

Last time I checked, the mod that made her white got banned, and every woke white knight has been accusing non-stop everyone who were willing to mod her of being racist.

So... Are you blind or something?

There's a mod to change a Dark Skinned asset in a video game because people don't like that she's Black?

That's sick.

And Yes, you are Strawmaning.

Take a blank canvas and a paintbrush and Draw whatever you want. You don't get to take someone else's artistic vision, paint over it, then say why do you have a problem with my painting?

Again, there is 0 problem with depicting Angrboda as Black, Blue, White, or Green. Taking someone else's completed Artistic Expression and Changing it is not the same, not at all.

Again, noone is saying Angrboda should not be depicted as white, that's the Strawman.

People are only saying Angrboda should not be Black. I guess so much so that they have apparantly modded her skin color in the game.

yes the mod was hosted in based mods. it's a mod-hosting site for right wing mods like mods that change lgtb flags with Swastika flags, mods that remove blacks or gay ppl from games, mods to allow you to kill blacks only, etc

for example they host a mod that changes all the npcs in Hatred to black ppl

it's a cool little place for totally not unhinged people lmao

[Festerblight]

DEI or SBI = DONT BUY

[Thyri]

Publicado originalmente por Flushing:

Publicado originalmente por Thyri:

Last time I checked, the mod that made her white got banned, and every woke white knight has been accusing non-stop everyone who were willing to mod her of being racist.

So... Are you blind or something?

There's a mod to change a Dark Skinned asset in a video game because people don't like that she's Black?

That's sick.

And Yes, you are Strawmaning.

Take a blank canvas and a paintbrush and Draw whatever you want. You don't get to take someone else's artistic vision, paint over it, then say why do you have a problem with my painting?

Again, there is 0 problem with depicting Angrboda as Black, Blue, White, or Green. Taking someone else's completed Artistic Expression and Changing it is not the same, not at all.

Again, noone is saying Angrboda should not be depicted as white, that's the Strawman.

People are only saying Angrboda should not be Black. I guess so much so that they have apparantly modded her skin color in the game.

Ironic. First, you tell me I'm strawmaning then you immediately build a strawman.

That painting over a canvas idea is a strawman. And a pretty bad one, because if you think modding is exactly the same as painting over an existing canvas, then I must teach you that painting over an existing canvas is much more irreversible and universal than a mod.
Just to help you understand : that means once you've put your personal paint over the artist's paint, the artist's paint is wasted (= irreversibility) for everyone (= universality).

When someone mods a game, the mod only affects his computer, not everyone else computer. And the mod can be removed at any time.

Since your argument with the paint is just rooted in a very bad strawman, I won't comment on the rest of that painting idea (which include the "completed artistic expression" statement).

Then, you said these two statements:
- Again, noone is saying Angrboda should not be depicted as white, that's the Strawman.
- People are only saying Angrboda should not be Black. I guess so much so that they have apparantly modded her skin color in the game.

In both cases, you should read again the thread, as everyone who asked for where to get the white mod got called racist, and nowhere I (this only concerns me) have said Angrboda should not be black. In the myth, she's not described at all. She could look like a twisted version of Cthulhu disguised as a clown for all we know.

I (again, just me) only said that : I'd like to see the white mod and that specifically banning the white mod and calling everyone racist is seriously wrong.