This game is proof that Playstation consoles are a complete waste of money these days.

[Ereson]

All of their good games will get a PC port at some point if they're worth a damn. Any that get stuck on the PS5 don't justify the 400-700$ price for what is essentially a pathetic PC with an extremely limited library of games. Stellar Blade will get a PC port soon, both GOW's are here now too, same with Spider-man and a few others.

Hopefully you guys have integrity, and are convincing your friends Playstation consoles are a complete waste of money when they get a decent PC instead.

[Ereson]

Messaggio originale di 1080Puktra:

Messaggio originale di CourtesyFlush09:

are you allergic to punctuation marks?

English is my 3rd language and my worst one at spelling and everything plus I'm dyslexic as all hell your lucky I spell things right lol just think of my writing skills as a 3rd grader or something lol.

You really should learn punctuation, people will take you more seriously if you do so. After about 10-15 words, put down a ".", and start a new sentence. I guarantee you will improve drastically with that one tip alone.

[Keelan]

Messaggio originale di SylvesterPotter:

Messaggio originale di Keelan:

+$400 for 4 years online play lmfao. windows is free. case + psu + ram is like 150 max.

I say clueless because if you think you need $1200 to match the base ps5 you are delusional.

those 4 years make 800 and still is cheaper than a pc, more so even paying until the next gen you will save money.

you come here with a SECOND HAND pc components that can run current games in 4k at 60 fps at max settings and we will talk about delusion.

anyway, enjoy getting robbed blind by graphic card manufacturers

PS5 = $500 (+x amount online fee)
I went on pcpartpicker and built a PC with better specs for $600 lol. Nothing second hand. No online fees. Free/cheap games. Use mouse or controller. Old games not locked to 30fps.

You just dont want to hear the truth for some reason, maybe you bought an overpriced laptop. The other dude linked a PC build for $800 that matches the Pro (actually outperforms it since Ryzen 5600 is a lot better than the PS5/Pro CPU) and you just ignored it.

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Messaggio originale di Keelan:

Messaggio originale di SylvesterPotter:

those 4 years make 800 and still is cheaper than a pc, more so even paying until the next gen you will save money.

you come here with a SECOND HAND pc components that can run current games in 4k at 60 fps at max settings and we will talk about delusion.

anyway, enjoy getting robbed blind by graphic card manufacturers

PS5 = $500 (+x amount online fee)
I went on pcpartpicker and built a PC with better specs for $600 lol. Nothing second hand. No online fees. Free/cheap games. Use mouse or controller. Old games not locked to 30fps.

You just dont want to hear the truth for some reason, maybe you bought an overpriced laptop. The other dude linked a PC build for $800 that matches the Pro (actually outperforms it since Ryzen 5600 is a lot better than the PS5/Pro CPU) and you just ignored it.

The funny thing the cost argument somewhat worked with the PS4 days but now nope not at all.

[Ereson]

Messaggio originale di 1080Puktra:

The funny thing the cost argument somewhat worked with the PS4 days but now nope not at all.

If you told me 10 years ago, I'd be a die hard "PC Master Race" guy, I'd say you were full of it. Thankfully, right around 2016 or so, lots of Third Party AAA companies like Capcom, Konami, Bandai Namco, and Sega started releasing their games on PC at the same time as consoles.

The best version of those 3rd party AAA games will always be on PC. Free Online service, mods, frequent discounts for games, compatibility with tons of different controllers, and an easy way to communicate via text chat through Steam is better than anything consoles can offer. Can't forget it mostly has honest reviews for all the games here, I've seen a few games get away with scaling against negative reviews.

[Ѡ]

not to mention it's lifespan is only a few years then it's a glorified paper weight unless you buy the next console. PC MASTER RACE FTW!!

[CourtesyFlush09]

Messaggio originale di Keelan:

Messaggio originale di SylvesterPotter:

those 4 years make 800 and still is cheaper than a pc, more so even paying until the next gen you will save money.

you come here with a SECOND HAND pc components that can run current games in 4k at 60 fps at max settings and we will talk about delusion.

anyway, enjoy getting robbed blind by graphic card manufacturers

PS5 = $500 (+x amount online fee)
I went on pcpartpicker and built a PC with better specs for $600 lol. Nothing second hand. No online fees. Free/cheap games. Use mouse or controller. Old games not locked to 30fps.

You just dont want to hear the truth for some reason, maybe you bought an overpriced laptop. The other dude linked a PC build for $800 that matches the Pro (actually outperforms it since Ryzen 5600 is a lot better than the PS5/Pro CPU) and you just ignored it.

You're forgetting the cost of a quality PC monitor that goes above peasant-tier 1080p lol. And we all know how much more expensive good monitors are compared to TVs,

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Messaggio originale di CourtesyFlush09:

Messaggio originale di Keelan:

PS5 = $500 (+x amount online fee)
I went on pcpartpicker and built a PC with better specs for $600 lol. Nothing second hand. No online fees. Free/cheap games. Use mouse or controller. Old games not locked to 30fps.

You just dont want to hear the truth for some reason, maybe you bought an overpriced laptop. The other dude linked a PC build for $800 that matches the Pro (actually outperforms it since Ryzen 5600 is a lot better than the PS5/Pro CPU) and you just ignored it.

You're forgetting the cost of a quality PC monitor that goes above peasant-tier 1080p lol. And we all know how much more expensive good monitors are compared to TVs,

One if the best & highly rated 3440x1440p ultrawide monitors cost around $350 and the basic 4K TV that's even on the smaller side also cost around $300 usually around $200-$250 for like a 42inch lol what are you stuck back in 2015 or something.

Like you can get crazy good 1440P 144hrz monitors under $200.

So yea it still cost about the same while PC still had better hardware across the board.

[CourtesyFlush09]

Messaggio originale di 1080Puktra:

Messaggio originale di CourtesyFlush09:

You're forgetting the cost of a quality PC monitor that goes above peasant-tier 1080p lol. And we all know how much more expensive good monitors are compared to TVs,

One if the best & highly rated 3440x1440p ultrawide monitors cost around $350 and the basic 4K TV that's even on the smaller side also cost around $300 lol what are you stuck back in 2015 or something.

I was speaking more In general terms and in terms of proportion. Monitors are more expensive than TVs because of their higher refresh rates, lower input lag, etc. You picked an example above that I'm sure is a budget monitor for good reason. That's an exception; not the norm.

There's also the fact that nearly everyone has a TV already in their house to game on while a PC requires a good monitor if you really want to get the most out of the hardware that isn't peasant-tier.

[exariv]

So make sure not to spend any money on the the company whos games you want to play, just wait for the games they develop to roll downhill to you after theyve shilled all those suckers who own their platform with their 1-5 years of early access? That is a solid strategy with an infinite runway. Those fools dont realize they are playing right into our hands!

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Messaggio originale di CourtesyFlush09:

Messaggio originale di 1080Puktra:

One if the best & highly rated 3440x1440p ultrawide monitors cost around $350 and the basic 4K TV that's even on the smaller side also cost around $300 lol what are you stuck back in 2015 or something.

I was speaking more In general terms and in terms of proportion. Monitors are more expensive than TVs because of their higher refresh rates, lower input lag, etc. You picked an example above that I'm sure is a budget monitor for good reason. That's an exception; not the norm.

There's also the fact that nearly everyone has a TV already in their house to game on while a PC requires a good monitor if you really want to get the most out of the hardware that isn't peasant-tier.

So basically only about a $100-$200 more for a better experience & superior hardware than a plastic box with less than 30games for it that can never be upgraded & to play online you have to pay a monthly rent as well which that alone removes the entire money spent argument for consoles.

Also that $200 1440P monitors isn't peasant tier in the slightest monitors for really good monitors aren't nearly expensive as you'd think these days my 3440x1440p curved ultrawide 144mhz monitor which cost me $350 is straight up one of the best monitors you can buy that even performs similar to even $800 monitors in the same category.

The whole advantage of consoles being cheaper doesn't stand up anymore & consoles don't even really have the exclusives as a added bonus anymore either but the very few rare game's at this point it's smarter to just go pc gameing & pc gameing doesn't even cost much more than console gameing anymore.

The only real advantage a console has now is how simple it is to use that's it.

[CourtesyFlush09]

Messaggio originale di 1080Puktra:

So basically only about a $100-$200 more for a better experience

"Only"

That's a lot of money for the vast majority of people lol.

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Messaggio originale di CourtesyFlush09:

Messaggio originale di 1080Puktra:

So basically only about a $100-$200 more for a better experience

"Only"

That's a lot of money for the vast majority of people lol.

And 1year of sub makes the difference on consoles, your spending a little bit more money for better hardware in ever category that can be modified & upgraded when ever you want & it's more than just a gameing platform so yea if someone was smart they'd save up the extra $100-$200 to just go gameing pc & pc gameing has a ton more deals for games that are constantly going on masdive sales so even more money saved down the road.

[CourtesyFlush09]

Messaggio originale di 1080Puktra:

Messaggio originale di CourtesyFlush09:

"Only"

That's a lot of money for the vast majority of people lol.

And 1year of sub makes the difference on consoles, your spending a little bit more money for better hardware in ever category that can be modified & upgraded when ever you want & it's more than just a gameing platform so yea if someone was smart they'd save up the extra $100-$200 to just go gameing pc & pc gameing has a ton more deals for games that are constantly going on masdive sales so even more money saved down the road.

The point is that consoles, mainly PS5 as of now, offer more value for its price point because it's essentially around a mid-range PC equivalent. And the last time I checked Steam data, the majority of PC gamers today game on mid-tier and below rigs, and at 1080p (ew, I know).

Now, if we're talking high-end PC gaming (which, in my opinion, is the main reason why anyone should invest in PC gaming because why would you NOT want to take advantage of all that horsepower??), then yeah - PC is far superior to consoles, but most people don't game on that level.

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Messaggio originale di CourtesyFlush09:

Messaggio originale di 1080Puktra:

And 1year of sub makes the difference on consoles, your spending a little bit more money for better hardware in ever category that can be modified & upgraded when ever you want & it's more than just a gameing platform so yea if someone was smart they'd save up the extra $100-$200 to just go gameing pc & pc gameing has a ton more deals for games that are constantly going on masdive sales so even more money saved down the road.

The point is that consoles, mainly PS5 as of now, offer more value for its price point because it's essentially a mid-range PC equivalent. And the last time I checked Steam data, the majority of PC gamers today game on mid-tier and below rigs, and at 1080p (ew, I know).

Now, if we're talking high-end PC gaming (which, in my opinion, is the main reason why anyone should invest in PC gaming), then yeah - PC is far superior to consoles, but most people don't game on that level.

Except it's been proven you can build a pc that cost slightly more if not cheaper & is better than a console as of right now the difference in prices are very similar the difference is pc is much more complicated & console is much more simple basically if you don't want or care for complex things go console you got kids go console if you can do complex go pc right now the cost difference between the two are shockingly similar.

Basically right now the steam survey means nothing because we are talking about the present more like if you had a choice & you wanted to get into gameing or upgrade past a ps4 which is a little more than half of the playstation players yes only half of the people upgraded to ps5,
basically if you were to choose would you go pc gameing or ps5 gameing because both of them cost about the same these days that's what I'm trying to point out put yourself in the shoes of a new comer to gameing or a last gen gamer wanting to upgrade.

[Ereson]

Messaggio originale di CourtesyFlush09:

You're forgetting the cost of a quality PC monitor that goes above peasant-tier 1080p lol. And we all know how much more expensive good monitors are compared to TVs,

It's completely optional to shill out money for an expensive monitor when you buy a new high end PC. Any modern monitor will do just fine, and you can buy them cheap. Alternatively, you can just hook your PC up to any TV in your house with a simple HDMI cable, most graphics cards have a HDMI port these days, if not, the adapter cable for it is about 10$.