ragnarok is by far the worst god of war game

[Uncle Crispy]

its still a decent game but its 100% the worst god of war game. the writing is a mess that only gets worse the more you think about it. as an example odin is depicted as a good guy despite what every ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ character tells you

odin didnt kill ANYONE in the game hell he never even attacked anyone until he was basically forced to. before someone says "he killed brok!" no he didnt because brok was dead long before kratos even met him as it was confirmed that sindri decided to be a selfish little ♥♥♥♥ and essentially steal a part of his brother's soul to bring him back to life. odin also wouldnt have done that if atreus didnt steal the mask. odin is basically the only character besides mimir that didnt treat kratos and atreus like ♥♥♥♥ at some point. thats just 1 poorly written aspect of the game. the ending (or lack thereof) is another. add the ♥♥♥♥ pacing because so damn much had to be put into 1 game because someone in charge was too incompetent to just allow the devs to make a damn trilogy and you have the worst written god of war game. the gameplay is fun but not even close to being as fun as god of war 3 or ascension and the atreus sections sucked

[Shock_&_Awe]

Originally posted by Uncle Crispy:

no ♥♥♥♥ hes a bad person ALL gods are bad people. hes still among the least violent and most reasonable gods we encountered in the new games. freya and thor are far more villainous than odin.

You're not a serious person. Who holds Thor's leash? How is Freya villainous?

[im lazy]

Originally posted by Shock_&_Awe:

Originally posted by Uncle Crispy:

no ♥♥♥♥ hes a bad person ALL gods are bad people. hes still among the least violent and most reasonable gods we encountered in the new games. freya and thor are far more villainous than odin.

You're not a serious person. Who holds Thor's leash? How is Freya villainous?

I think he has the wrong word. Freya isn't villainous, she's antagonistic. She's trying to kill kratos near the start which makes her an early antagonist, however shifts from that antagonistic character in the story.

[Frag Maniac]

I think you're both wrong. You can't label Freya as either villain or antagonist, because she's merely acting out a powerful maternal bond to her son. Many mothers are irrational at times in doing so. So she's definitely a Cosseter, or what some now a days would call a "Helicopter" parent, but she's not a villain or antagonist.

You can tell how motherly she is even when speaking to Kratos about Atreus.

[Uncle Crispy]

Originally posted by Frag Maniac:

I think you're both wrong. You can't label Freya as either villain or antagonist, because she's merely acting out a powerful maternal bond to her son. Many mothers are irrational at times in doing so. So she's definitely a Cosseter, or what some now a days would call a "Helicopter" parent, but she's not a villain or antagonist.

You can tell how motherly she is even when speaking to Kratos about Atreus.

she ruined her son's life and tried to kill kratos for preventing baldur from murdering her and tried to kill atreus because he had an arrow that decorated his clothing that just happened to be the one thing that could remove baldur's curse. shes absolutely a villain.

[im lazy]

Originally posted by Frag Maniac:

I think you're both wrong. You can't label Freya as either villain or antagonist, because she's merely acting out a powerful maternal bond to her son. Many mothers are irrational at times in doing so. So she's definitely a Cosseter, or what some now a days would call a "Helicopter" parent, but she's not a villain or antagonist.

You can tell how motherly she is even when speaking to Kratos about Atreus.

She is antagonistic from her constant attempts to kill kratos. Antagonist doesn't mean bad, antagonist just means against the main character, and I'd say trying to kill the main character is being against the main character. AntagonistIC is more fitting because she shifts from that into no longer wanting to kill or stop Kratos.

[Uncle Crispy]

Originally posted by im lazy:

Originally posted by Frag Maniac:

I think you're both wrong. You can't label Freya as either villain or antagonist, because she's merely acting out a powerful maternal bond to her son. Many mothers are irrational at times in doing so. So she's definitely a Cosseter, or what some now a days would call a "Helicopter" parent, but she's not a villain or antagonist.

You can tell how motherly she is even when speaking to Kratos about Atreus.

She is antagonistic from her constant attempts to kill kratos. Antagonist doesn't mean bad, antagonist just means against the main character, and I'd say trying to kill the main character is being against the main character. AntagonistIC is more fitting because she shifts from that into no longer wanting to kill or stop Kratos.

plus basically every god in the series can be considered a villain/bad guy. besides aphrodite, mimir, and ratataskr i cant think of any gods in the series that were on screen that were not portrayed as some degree of bad

[im lazy]

Originally posted by Uncle Crispy:

Originally posted by im lazy:

She is antagonistic from her constant attempts to kill kratos. Antagonist doesn't mean bad, antagonist just means against the main character, and I'd say trying to kill the main character is being against the main character. AntagonistIC is more fitting because she shifts from that into no longer wanting to kill or stop Kratos.

plus basically every god in the series can be considered a villain/bad guy. besides aphrodite, mimir, and ratataskr i cant think of any gods in the series that were on screen that were not portrayed as some degree of bad

You think mimir is a good guy? I beg you, do some of the svartlfheim favours.

[Uncle Crispy]

Originally posted by im lazy:

Originally posted by Uncle Crispy:

plus basically every god in the series can be considered a villain/bad guy. besides aphrodite, mimir, and ratataskr i cant think of any gods in the series that were on screen that were not portrayed as some degree of bad

You think mimir is a good guy? I beg you, do some of the svartlfheim favours.

im going purely by whats in the main plot. as far as i know the only side content thats canon was the Valkyrie fights from gow 2018

[im lazy]

Originally posted by Uncle Crispy:

Originally posted by im lazy:

You think mimir is a good guy? I beg you, do some of the svartlfheim favours.

im going purely by whats in the main plot. as far as i know the only side content thats canon was the Valkyrie fights from gow 2018

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side content is canon, regardless of whether or not you think so.

the oil rigs are canon especially because it's brought up in the main story. he's also at fault for all the bad stuff that happened to freya.

also "i dont like it so it's not canon" isn't applicable, side content is canon.

[Uncle Crispy]

Originally posted by im lazy:

Originally posted by Uncle Crispy:

im going purely by whats in the main plot. as far as i know the only side content thats canon was the Valkyrie fights from gow 2018

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side content is canon, regardless of whether or not you think so.

the oil rigs are canon especially because it's brought up in the main story. he's also at fault for all the bad stuff that happened to freya.

also "i dont like it so it's not canon" isn't applicable, side content is canon.

would you kindly point out where i said that i didnt like the side content? when it comes to the events of 2018 only the valkyries mattered to the main plot. theres no sequel to ragnarok so its unknown if any of the side content is canon. honestly until the original saga at bare minimum gets ported to modern PS consoles im not buying any future god of war games. the original saga was way better and they deserve to be brought to modern consoles and PC so people can see what god of war was originally like. also so limp ♥♥♥♥ journalists and people who were given the wrong information can see that kratos wasnt some shallow character that had nothing but "kill all gods. revenge good" going for him until GOW 2018. he wasnt a very deep character but he had far more depth than that

[im lazy]

you dont like it because it doesn't stick to your narrative of "odin is actually a good guy and freya is actually the bad one"

[DARAKH]

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[Uncle Crispy]

Originally posted by im lazy:

you dont like it because it doesn't stick to your narrative of "odin is actually a good guy and freya is actually the bad one"

would you like to point out where i said i didnt like it? also again the main plot proves that idea

[Shock_&_Awe]

Originally posted by Uncle Crispy:

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would you like to point out where i said i didnt like it? also again the main plot proves that idea

The main plot is literally ends with Odin dead and Freya as an ally. How does the main plot prove that Odin is good and Freya is bad? It's shows and tells the exact opposite.

[Uncle Crispy]

Originally posted by Shock_&_Awe:

Originally posted by Uncle Crispy:

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would you like to point out where i said i didnt like it? also again the main plot proves that idea

The main plot is literally ends with Odin dead and Freya as an ally. How does the main plot prove that Odin is good and Freya is bad? It's shows and tells the exact opposite.

do you need me to remind you that freya tried to kill both kratos and atreus multiple times unprovoked and odin never attacked them until after they stole his ♥♥♥♥? also thats not how it ends. kratos is prophesied to become loved and atreus ♥♥♥♥♥ off to find marbles that have giant souls in them. then theres valhalla where kratos learns to accept his past and becomes the norse god of war