Deep Rock Galactic: Survivor

Deep Rock Galactic: Survivor

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Handbanana Feb 17, 2024 @ 11:25pm
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Minigun is ass.
It needs a complete redesign. It doesn't make any sense with how the game functions. You have to stand still and point toward the enemies. Completely counter to every other aspect of the game.

The weapon needs to be redesigned from the ground up or a mouse aiming function needs to be added to allow you to point backwards and fire while moving.

Its not even that strong compared to other weapons to justify this extreme weaknesses that it has.
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Mystiax Feb 17, 2024 @ 11:39pm 
If you have decent move speed you can run away and turn aroudn to kill a bunch. Or mine a chokepoint and turn around to the same effect, minigun with piercing bullets or elemetntal is very good. at the very least it will make the path infront of your miner clear. its just a process of learning it.
Tyyne (Banned) Feb 17, 2024 @ 11:44pm 
Check the other threads about this "issue".
Intra Feb 17, 2024 @ 11:52pm 
It's not terrible but it's annoying to use in a game that asks you to already do more than most horde survival games. It's questionable to call it "skill expression" more than taking what effectively turns into most games as a "bullet hell + power simulator" into a "sometimes brain thinky + no power simulator"

This is the type of game you turn your brain off for and it attempts to subvert that by making you choose to make trades to get nodes, position exploders to blow enemies up, weigh stats and weapons like you're theorycrafting an MMO, and it's not really working at that. You get to the point where all those things stop requiring brain power. It's mostly just a hurdle to get game knowledge that isn't told to you explicitly and then get some unlocks.

You know what would be great? If the upgrade tooltip just did the math for me and showed the total DPS gain of each option (other than Piercing / AOE effects). Is anyone going to whip out a calculator? Nah.

"But if it did the math for you then why pick the other options?"

Exactly, why do you want me to do math or randomly pick the wrong choice? Why hide that information from the player? "Mystery"? You want players to make choices then make them matter.

This isn't Slay the Spire level of thinking 1000 steps ahead. This is like... Brotato with an obstacle course.
Last edited by Intra; Feb 17, 2024 @ 11:59pm
The Chosen One Feb 18, 2024 @ 12:22am 
You don't only point it towards enemies, most of the time you run TOWARDS them. It requires a different way of playing. It is EA so balancing can certainly be done.
Xandor Feb 18, 2024 @ 12:38am 
One advantage weapons have that shoot forward is that it makes it easier to not damage the boss. The longer you can keep it alive the more xp and ore you can get so the stronger you can get.
It can also be useful when you run away from the horde of enemies that it kills the enemies in front of you so you get a clear path to run.

I haven't played too much yet, beat hazard 1 easily (beat it on first run as scout). Haven't beat hazard 2 yet because I only tried it once and I got over confident and accidentally died. Unlocked the main classes and played a few games of hazard 1.

So far I think the best class is driller because the 70% increased mining speed is extremely good to get more loot and to make more room to kite and faster dig through walls when cornered. It also has great AoE and I had one gun that almost 1 shot a boss.

But the last game I played gunner and absolutely destroyed everything with minigun. Had no other gun upgraded so couldn't get upgrades for other guns so it was all minigun that did the work and I could run full speed toward waves and they died before I could reach them.
It is also possible to angle yourself so you dig toward the enemy so you get to shoot while digging, doesn't work perfect but it helps a little.
Last edited by Xandor; Feb 18, 2024 @ 1:49am
NiLL Feb 18, 2024 @ 12:51am 
you HAVE to run away most of the time, so making a weapon that only fires forward when everything should be behind you seems kinda pointless.
DarkHorsePrime Feb 18, 2024 @ 1:05am 
Minigun is best weapon in the game wth you on about?
Flying Mage Feb 18, 2024 @ 1:12am 
Yeah, I don't even wanna play gunner anymore. Compared to scout (which was pretty smooth right from the start) his gameplay is awful. And minigun is the reason. I've heard that it gets better later in the game after you accumulatre some upgrades. But now it sucks.
GIRL Feb 18, 2024 @ 1:15am 
It is indeed a hard weapon to use properly for a beginner, especially when you have no upgrades and need to run away from bugs constantly.

That said, it really shines when you have the right upgrades. Unlock Overclocks for it, and rush getting the Overclock that gives it piercing. Also, take every damage up upgrade you can, don't worry too much about fire rate/reload. You should be running/using other weapons to cover yourself while reloading.

Also, crucial tip: You can gently tap backwards to make the Minigun fire behind you while mining. This lets you mine while keeping your flank completely safe. Extremely useful in the early game when you have no other weapons, and need to mine currencies.
The Chosen One Feb 18, 2024 @ 1:16am 
Huh, I don't have too much trouble with running towards them for a large amount of the time even without many upgrades. If you are mining it is possible you can also angle yourself in the right way and still fire. You have to apporach it from a diffferent standpoint and change how you run around the map.
見ている Feb 18, 2024 @ 1:34am 
gunner with minigun is powerful.
compare
scout classic and scout recon are weak.
driller foreman weapon shoot behind also too bad.
VeraelHasta Feb 18, 2024 @ 1:37am 
At first I hated the minigun as well. But it is fine, you just have to play differently and build more movement speed.
DeKevin Feb 18, 2024 @ 1:44am 
I like it after playing more, get huge attack power and then funnel them someone and shoot EVERYTHING
Shiki Diki Feb 18, 2024 @ 1:44am 
Originally posted by Femboy Thighs:
It is indeed a hard weapon to use properly for a beginner, especially when you have no upgrades and need to run away from bugs constantly.

That said, it really shines when you have the right upgrades. Unlock Overclocks for it, and rush getting the Overclock that gives it piercing. Also, take every damage up upgrade you can, don't worry too much about fire rate/reload. You should be running/using other weapons to cover yourself while reloading.

Also, crucial tip: You can gently tap backwards to make the Minigun fire behind you while mining. This lets you mine while keeping your flank completely safe. Extremely useful in the early game when you have no other weapons, and need to mine currencies.

The first seven runs I used the Leadstorm and brought it to max, I never got the Piercing OC.
I loathed that thing. Now I had two runs with the Piercing OC and it's kinda aight, but still one of my least fave weapons in the game. (Doesn't help that most my runs with it were kinda cursed. Even on one of em with piercing, I took two artifacts that are bugged in combo right now, instantly bringing you to -40% Movespeed. It is literally impossible to dodge the dread jump with -40)
Xetelian Feb 18, 2024 @ 1:52am 
I don't know the numbers, I don't know the science I've not done the math

I have had really good runs where the leadstorm just melts waves as I run in a circle or when I make a choke point and face it or when the Juggernaut jumps and lands behind me and i turn and fire on it for a few seconds before putting some distance and dodging again


but like every other weapon I've had runs where they were completely useless
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