is it rogueliTE or rogueliKE ?

[La petite Océane]

well the question is in the title, just want a clear answer before buying the mind in peace i love both of them.

[JustSmile]

Roguelike is a far stricter definition than ~lite. The most basic qualifier would be zero metaprogression of any sort, so about 99% of games calling themselves roguelike are actually roguelites.

[Khadgar]

The distinction between the two is murky, but this game is 100% unequivocally not a roguelike.

It's more of a bullet heaven game, also known as a "survivors-like", though it does have a few interesting quirks of it's own.

[Badger]

Roguelite, permenant upgrades and class unlocks but everything is different on each run, the game is very similar to Hades in structure.

[Sunz_Up]

its both

[Hailspork]

Originally posted by JustSmile:

Roguelike is a far stricter definition than ~lite. The most basic qualifier would be zero metaprogression of any sort, so about 99% of games calling themselves roguelike are actually roguelites.

I thought Roguelites were a subset of Roguelike. Maybe if you say "pure roguelike"...

[Defektiv]

It has just a touch of rouge.

[DOS32]

its an autoshooter

[JustSmile]

Originally posted by Hailspork:

Originally posted by JustSmile:

Roguelike is a far stricter definition than ~lite. The most basic qualifier would be zero metaprogression of any sort, so about 99% of games calling themselves roguelike are actually roguelites.

I thought Roguelites were a subset of Roguelike. Maybe if you say "pure roguelike"...

Nah, rogueLITE is just a genre derived from rogueLIKE but, as the ~lite suffix suggests, less strict about each playthrough being a completely separate adventure thing.

The exact definitions are somewhat murky, some will say a game is ~like rather than ~lite so long as metaprogression only adds options instead of strength, others will refuse to accept anything that's not a top-down turn based RPG with ASCII graphics as ~like since that's what Rogue, the genre's namesake, was.

[★♫Dartnet♫★]

like vampire survivor. that all

[The Yeen Queen]

Originally posted by La petite Océane:

well the question is in the title, just want a clear answer before buying the mind in peace i love both of them.

Neither is really an accurate title for the genre, but they've stuck and all the nitpicking in the world won't change that at this point. I just find it funny that some of the key features that define the genre were literally nowhere to be seen in the game it's named for or any of its descendants for the first few DECADES. ( Most notably the "meta progression" that carries between runs )

[Ruskul]

Flight Simulatorlike

[Sexueller Seebär]

RoguLITE, you get permanend upgrades that stay with you (more EXP gain, More DMG, More MS, More everything) so every run is "worth it" :)

[The Yeen Queen]

TRUE "roguelike" would be a dungeon crawler, you get one life, procedurally generated dungeon, random loot, and every single run starts you from scratch. No persistent character upgrades. No unlocking new loot drops. Nada. Every run starts you from zero.

A purist might even argue that ascii graphics are the only true roguelikes, but I'm not THAT pedantic. Diablo 1 was actually closer to a "true" Roguelike than most modern "roguelikes".

[Jeff]

tbh there was a time when people were worried about what to call it specifically.

Those times are past imo, just call everything a roguelike and don't worry about it.

[The Yeen Queen]

Originally posted by Jeff:

tbh there was a time when people were worried about what to call it specifically.

Those times are past imo, just call everything a roguelike and don't worry about it.

The term kinda has lost all meaning at this point.