Neon Echo

Neon Echo

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St0rmwielder Jul 3, 2023 @ 1:27am
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Don't post negative reviews
This game is the work of the devs, not the publisher. They don't deserve it to get review bombed. While i am equally pissed off at these corporate a-holes at Billibilli for cancelling a really fun and good-looking game, i don't think review bombing is the way to go. But finding other/better ways to let Billibilli know is. Like: Not buying a single game from this publisher anymore.
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Raiser 💤 Jul 3, 2023 @ 2:04am 
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Negative reviews show people who would otherwise buy the game that there is an issue and they shouldn't buy it.
Also, negative reviews hurt the publisher not the devs. The devs are fired and leaving positive reviews wont unfire them.
klaud Jul 3, 2023 @ 3:52am 
if not because of the "most recent" negative reviews i would have alrdy buy the game, those negative reviews helps other people that dont know of this game situation.
St0rmwielder Jul 3, 2023 @ 8:53am 
Originally posted by Raiser 💤:
Negative reviews show people who would otherwise buy the game that there is an issue and they shouldn't buy it.
Also, negative reviews hurt the publisher not the devs. The devs are fired and leaving positive reviews wont unfire them.

Sure, but we don't have all the information. What if, a handful of these guys are still allowed to work on it and need to prove their worthiness by selling more copies? That train has departed now, with everyone spamming negative reviews. The game's development has not officially halted yet. All we know is that there were layoffs(for retarded reasons obviously). So those ppl who bought it and pray for development to somehow move on, shouldn't be punished by negative review spams(which defo are the last nail in the coffin for a project like this).
Pasquale Bambino Jul 3, 2023 @ 11:59am 
This game's development has completely stopped. There are no more developers working on it.

The review bombing is deserved and nobody should spend their hard-earned money on this half-baked unfinished product that will simply collect dust.
Raiser 💤 Jul 3, 2023 @ 12:01pm 
Originally posted by St0rmwielder:
What if, a handful of these guys are still allowed to work on it and need to prove their worthiness by selling more copies?
There is an easy solution: They should make a statement that the developement is not dead.
They likely would have done that already if it was the case.
It's not like you can't change a review after it's written, so in the long run if the situation was temporary it wouldn't affect much.

With a downsized team the game's quality would suffer too, which would upset people all the same. They likely rather just cut the whole project.

Would you seriously recommend a game to others that is in an uncertain state and likely abandoned?
St0rmwielder Jul 3, 2023 @ 3:53pm 
Originally posted by Raiser 💤:
Originally posted by St0rmwielder:
What if, a handful of these guys are still allowed to work on it and need to prove their worthiness by selling more copies?
There is an easy solution: They should make a statement that the developement is not dead.
They likely would have done that already if it was the case.
It's not like you can't change a review after it's written, so in the long run if the situation was temporary it wouldn't affect much.

With a downsized team the game's quality would suffer too, which would upset people all the same. They likely rather just cut the whole project.

Would you seriously recommend a game to others that is in an uncertain state and likely abandoned?

No, but i would mainly think of myself and those who bought it. Somehow showing support to make them rethink their decision or at least let someone else pick up development. There hasn't been(to my knowledge) any definitive halt on development. So there's hope. Not the first time a dead game would rise again.
Raiser 💤 Jul 3, 2023 @ 5:11pm 
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Originally posted by St0rmwielder:
No, but i would mainly think of myself and those who bought it.
Reviews are for new potential buyers and not for you to feel better.

The publisher knows why the negative reviews are happening and it's unlikely to affect any decision they make. Turning things around could even be a good PR move, but I doubt they care at all.
DoubleDeputyD Jul 5, 2023 @ 4:02am 
Originally posted by St0rmwielder:

Sure, but we don't have all the information. What if, a handful of these guys are still allowed to work on it and need to prove their worthiness by selling more copies? That train has departed now, with everyone spamming negative reviews. The game's development has not officially halted yet. All we know is that there were layoffs(for retarded reasons obviously). So those ppl who bought it and pray for development to somehow move on, shouldn't be punished by negative review spams(which defo are the last nail in the coffin for a project like this).

As much as Id like it not to be the case its 100% dead theres been multiple confirmations of it the most direct coming from the article sent out in China around the second week of June.

Half of the team got cut in the process of cancelling several products being developed this game being the most recent cut Bilibili were desperate for huge numbers to stay afloat they were already losing revenue prior to the games release.

The communication team is non existent as been proven in multiple posts spanning between the time that article came out and now they had absolutely no chance to even confirm its dead simply cuzz no ones there to speak.

Even before the article several members of the Discord server had noticed the devs had gone dark for some time which was still during active development on the new content.

They certainly were responding to bug reports so the programming staff were still active but there were no efforts in active communication ever since the last major update appeared aside from releasing the news about it & the eventual hotfix release.

The devs were talented people its a shame it had to end this way but it absolutely is dead and Steam likely doesnt know the situation so they cant even pull it from there platform I imagine they cant legally without permission but then again someone could argue its illegal to allow purchases of an inactive product but then they do have a refund policy at least so eh.
Last edited by DoubleDeputyD; Jul 6, 2023 @ 6:48am
Tyrian Mollusk Jul 6, 2023 @ 9:00am 
Too much confusing talk about publisher, developer, team, etc.

Xinyuan Studio is the developer and publisher. Xinyuan Studio fired over 200 people--more than half of their whole company. Xinyuan Studio cancelled Neon Echo.

It's not review bombing to tell people to avoid an unfinished game from a company that not only cancelled the project shortly into a successful early access but fired all the people working on it.
Last edited by Tyrian Mollusk; Jul 6, 2023 @ 9:01am
Cumb Dunt Jul 6, 2023 @ 6:28pm 
It's literally the only thing letting people know the game has been abandoned, you rube
blue Jul 9, 2023 @ 12:22pm 
Originally posted by Raiser 💤:
Originally posted by St0rmwielder:
No, but i would mainly think of myself and those who bought it.
Reviews are for new potential buyers and not for you to feel better.

The publisher knows why the negative reviews are happening and it's unlikely to affect any decision they make. Turning things around could even be a good PR move, but I doubt they care at all.
Yeah? No one should buy a product that will never be finished. They are still for potential buyers. Get off your high horse. They plainly stated in the chinese PRs that they do not give a ♥♥♥♥ about this and that it's dead in the water, you lunatic
Raiser 💤 Jul 9, 2023 @ 10:42pm 
Originally posted by CAT POLICE CAT POLICE CAT POLICE:
Originally posted by Raiser 💤:
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Yeah? No one should buy a product that will never be finished. They are still for potential buyers. Get off your high horse. They plainly stated in the chinese PRs that they do not give a ♥♥♥♥ about this and that it's dead in the water, you lunatic
Why are you quoting me though? :bbtcat:
Z3Sleeper Jul 12, 2023 @ 7:26pm 
False false false. Review bombing this game does not hurt the devs (they were literally fired u goof LMAO).

Continue the bombing.
It's literally marked as "Early Access." If someone paid for it, they already purchased an incomplete game. If you're bothered by a game being canceled that was never finished in the first place, that's on you.

By default, it is smart to not pay into early access for exactly this reason. It's exactly like on Kickstarter: even though you put money into it, you are not guaranteed (nor any more deserving) a finished product (or any product). You gave money for a hope, not for a result.

In other words, no, review bombing does not help anyone. I'm still tempted to get this game (on sale) because APPARENTLY IT WAS GOOD ENOUGH TO BE EXCITED ABOUT IT ALREADY. (Unless you lot are lying about it being good enough to support at the stage it had reached, in which case why are you making a stupid fuss?)
blue Jul 16, 2023 @ 10:56am 
Originally posted by Jarie 水栓 (Suisen):
It's literally marked as "Early Access." If someone paid for it, they already purchased an incomplete game. If you're bothered by a game being canceled that was never finished in the first place, that's on you.

By default, it is smart to not pay into early access for exactly this reason. It's exactly like on Kickstarter: even though you put money into it, you are not guaranteed (nor any more deserving) a finished product (or any product). You gave money for a hope, not for a result.

In other words, no, review bombing does not help anyone. I'm still tempted to get this game (on sale) because APPARENTLY IT WAS GOOD ENOUGH TO BE EXCITED ABOUT IT ALREADY. (Unless you lot are lying about it being good enough to support at the stage it had reached, in which case why are you making a stupid fuss?)
There's a difference between "early and incomplete" and "project was killed". People should be made aware, so yes, review bombing works because people will see the heavily negative reviews, and wonder what is up, because *the company did not put out any news about this*.

Yes, buying into EA is a risk, but this is a whole other problem of a game being canned, and people should be aware, even more than just "yeah this is EA, take a chance"
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