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Struggling to get my strikers to score goals
I'm trying to find a way to build a succesful 4-2-3-1 formation where I can actually get my lone striker to score goals. No matter what I seem to try it just doesn't seem to work (It's me I know). I use 2 CM's instead of DM's, And play with wide wingers rather than inside forwards...and I've noticed my players stars always decrease rather than increase. I normally dominate games, I'll get so many shots on goals, but they can't seem to finish of their shots, I've also noticed in FM2014 you can't order your players to put the ball to the strikers feet or head, and on average my Striker is only getting 2 or maybe 3 shots on goal per game...

I was hoping some of you may be kind enough to maybe suggest some tactics for me to try, or maybe put forward some idea's/suggestions.

Cheers
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fiddypence2010 Nov 12, 2013 @ 1:08am 
I should add that my Striker is normally set as an Advanced Forward (Soldado or Bony) and Tried as a Poacher. And I've also got very good coaches in each sector...it's got to be my Tactics.
wesley.melles Nov 12, 2013 @ 9:19am 
Are your wingers set as attack or support? If their set as support their less likely to shot and will genrally pass in to the box ( could also set team orders to drill crosses i.e to feet rather than float them ) I also play Sandro and Dembele as box to box mids in my 4-2-3-1 with eriksen as an attack playmaker which gives support to your striker. Why sign Bony lol. Go have a look at morata at real madrid, hes young and a great all rounder
wesley.melles Nov 12, 2013 @ 9:34am 
also if you need a new left back as rose aint that great, go to porto fc and their left back is good, Alex sandro. hes quick young and speaks english
fiddypence2010 Nov 12, 2013 @ 7:01pm 
I play my Wingers both attack and Support, depending on who I play (Lamela + Chadli support) and (Ince and Lennon Attack) , sometimes I'll even have one side Attack and the other side support depending on fitness and form of the players.

I've tried telling my players to ''Drill'' the crosses, but the cross never seems to land in front of my Striker (although I'm guessing that's still the right thing to do), the ball always seems to fall to the other winger, or what happens mostly is that my winger will take it far up the pitch and then end up passing it back to a midfielder rather than stick it straight in to the Striker, and even when sometimes the Striker has a great goal scoring opportunity, it's frustrating. My Midfielders seem to take the shots on goal rather than lay a pass off to my Striker... I just suck at tactics I guess, I must be doing something wrong but it's taking me so long to work out lol I just need a little guidance, the manual really isn't explaing things in that respect.

And Bony is really a back up to Soldado (who is my key striker), Bony is doing fine and only cost me £6 million as Swansea was relagated ;)

I do realise that in different games tactics need to be changed, playing against different formations... but I don't get why I can't get my Wingers to consistanly whip in crosses for my Striker, my Striker just isn't getting chances on goal.

I often wonder that my tactics don't work out for me because I often change tactics, which is why I'm asking for some tactical idea's so I can stick with the one's that are suggested for a longer period of time.

Thanks for the reply ;)
GusKTA Nov 13, 2013 @ 10:17am 
welcome to the club, halfway throught the season and my highest goalscorer is jonny evans. and i have rooney, van persie, hernandez and Michy
fiddypence2010 Nov 13, 2013 @ 11:51am 
What formation are you using fella? I've had a little more luck today playing with more of a direct style, but I had Chadli and Lamela who both like to play as Inside Forwards which doesn't help my team at all (I'll be selling Lamela in Jan and buy more of a traditional winger), But, with Lennon and Ince on the wings playing the passing more ''Direct'' it's helping a lot.

I've set my tactics to...

Fluidity - Fluid
Mentality - Control

Instructions to -
More Diret passing
Run At Defence
Push Higher Up
Use Offside Trap
Hassle Opponants
Drill Crosses (But sometimes change to ''Float Crosses'' if their struggling)

GK - Defend

RWB - Automatic
CD - Defend or Cover (depending who I play)
CD - Stopper
LWB - Automatic

CM - Defend
CM or Deep Lying Player Maker - Defend or Support
AM - Attcking Mid Support or Player Maker Support
LW - Winger Attack
RW - Winger Attack

ST - Advanced Striker

And generally my team seems to click with that, my strikers are scoring more, and getting more chances on goal, but they're still struggling as a whole to improve their match rating.

I do have another 2 formations set up incase my players struggle with that, well actually one is the same but with just different ''instructions'', But I also have a 4-3-3 which helps at times.







GusKTA Nov 13, 2013 @ 12:05pm 
Originally posted by fiddypence2010:
What formation are you using fella? I've had a little more luck today playing with more of a direct style, but I had Chadli and Lamela who both like to play as Inside Forwards which doesn't help my team at all (I'll be selling Lamela in Jan and buy more of a traditional winger), But, with Lennon and Ince on the wings playing the passing more ''Direct'' it's helping a lot.

I've set my tactics to...

Fluidity - Fluid
Mentality - Control

Instructions to -
More Diret passing
Run At Defence
Push Higher Up
Use Offside Trap
Hassle Opponants
Drill Crosses (But sometimes change to ''Float Crosses'' if their struggling)

GK - Defend

RWB - Automatic
CD - Defend or Cover (depending who I play)
CD - Stopper
LWB - Automatic

CM - Defend
CM or Deep Lying Player Maker - Defend or Support
AM - Attcking Mid Support or Player Maker Support
LW - Winger Attack
RW - Winger Attack

ST - Advanced Striker

And generally my team seems to click with that, my strikers are scoring more, and getting more chances on goal, but they're still struggling as a whole to improve their match rating.

I do have another 2 formations set up incase my players struggle with that, well actually one is the same but with just different ''instructions'', But I also have a 4-3-3 which helps at times.
No my team is actually playing well rooney has 11 league assists already but it's just sad tat evans is socring so much he has 9 league goals already. all from corner kicks that follow the exact same pattern.
Grim (Banned) Nov 13, 2013 @ 12:37pm 
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=194702972

Every !##%@! game: my strikers pass it directly to the opposition gk, my mids shoot from 40 yards inspite of me setting them to shoot less, and my wide players cut the ball back from the byline instead of crossing early like I've told them to.

My team couldn't complete a 5 yard pass to save their lives, my wide men stop and start stuttering around, waiting to get tackled, when they have an open flank to dribble down, and my defenders actively refuse to defend. But than again I suppose it's asking too much for my 3 world class CBs, and 2 world class DMs, to be able to stop a lone championship-side striker, with a heading ability of 8, from heading in a goal.

The AI's goal to shot on target ratio is currently sitting at about 80-90%... while Human controlled teams are lucky if they can put in 1 in 15 (lower than 10% odds).

I've had my team set to training in tactics since the start of the season, according to the bar graph they're experts at it (3-4-1-2), yet they repeatedly make single digit age, bumble bee swarm formation, kid's teams look and play like @#%%! Barcelona.
Last edited by Grim; Nov 13, 2013 @ 1:24pm
fiddypence2010 Nov 13, 2013 @ 12:43pm 
Chiby - My team too is also playing well, I seem to get a lot of goals from set pieces, especially from corners like yourself. Just struggling to get the best out of my strikers ;)

J_elder - Looking at those stats you can see you're dominating the match, could it be a match preperation issue? over training your players?
Grim (Banned) Nov 13, 2013 @ 1:09pm 
Originally posted by fiddypence2010:
J_elder - Looking at those stats you can see you're dominating the match, could it be a match preperation issue? over training your players?

I set both to being controlled by my assistant as soon as they became proficient at the formation... so, i highly doubt it. You never know, though. lol
Scott Chegg Nov 13, 2013 @ 1:10pm 
Originally posted by j_elder132001:
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=194702972

Every !##%@! game: my strikers pass it directly to the opposition gk, my mids shoot from 40 yards inspite of me setting them to shoot less, and my wide players cut the ball back from the byline instead of crossing early like I've told them to.

My team couldn't complete a 5 yard pass to save their lives, my wide men stop and start stuttering around, waiting to get tackled, when they have an open flank to dribble down, and my defenders actively refuse to defend. But than again I suppose it's asking to much for my 3 world class CBs, and 2 world class DMs, to be able to stop a lone championship-side striker, with a heading ability of 8, from heading in a goal.

The AIs goal to shot on target ratio is currently sitting at about 80-90%... while Human controlled teams are lucky if they can put in 1 in 15 (lower than 10% odds).

I've had my team set to training in tactics since the start of the season, according to the bar graph they're experts at it (3-4-1-2), yet they repeatedly make single digit age, bumble bee swarm formation, kid's teams look and play like @#%%! Barcelona.



LOL 27 shots 15 on target and no CCC thats awsome
fiddypence2010 Nov 13, 2013 @ 1:13pm 
Jan Vertonghen 7 goals in 9 games so far, has the best goals to game ratio in The Premiership atm lol
fiddypence2010 Nov 13, 2013 @ 1:19pm 
Originally posted by j_elder132001:
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=194702972

Every !##%@! game: my strikers pass it directly to the opposition gk, my mids shoot from 40 yards inspite of me setting them to shoot less, and my wide players cut the ball back from the byline instead of crossing early like I've told them to.

I had the same problem, but since I've changed to play more direct, my Wingers tend to put more balls in than they did. Also...go onto individual player instructions, and instruct both of your Wingers to ''Cross Aim Centre'' and ''Stay Wider'', that's definetely helped me.
Last edited by fiddypence2010; Nov 13, 2013 @ 1:20pm
murat8080 Nov 13, 2013 @ 7:03pm 
Luis suarez pld 16 scored 2
sturridge pld 15 scored 1
lewandowski pld 16 scored 1
d. agger pld 16 scored 6

my midfielders cant pass
my wingers run with ball until the edge of the area then stop and wait for the tackle
defenders average a match rating of 5.5

i have tried ALL training methods, ive played this half a season over and over and over again with different tactics, different shouts, different training set ups and the same exact result every time, the last run i had ended with 8 losses out of the last 9 and the other was a draw, 6 of those games i led with 4 of them leading by 2/3 goals only to be beaten easily despite tactic changes once 2/3 goals up,

i know its a game an that however ive been playing this religiously over the years investing time and money, at this point i know that the problem is not me or the new things in the game, i am sure you will agree that the above stats just do not make sense. and just like the fellas above i dominated most of thos games with silly 34 shots, 18 on target with 0 goals, possesion in games also is very confusing, at home against palace (no offence) they outplay me 30% to their 70%!!!! PLEASE HELP.
Ragna Nov 14, 2013 @ 11:00am 
Murat8080: If you take some time and have a look at the analysis during the game, you can tweak individual settings or even team settings according to that. Atleast that will get your team to work abit better.

I am still figuring out why strikers dont score. I did have some success with Aspas in Liverpool.
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Date Posted: Nov 12, 2013 @ 1:03am
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