ArtRage 4

ArtRage 4

Coffee Mar 5, 2013 @ 10:16pm
How to get no textured canva???
Seriously, i can't find a way to get no textured canva.

I want to get the exact same thing than in photoshop.


How? As now this is really annoying!
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ArtRage  [developer] Mar 8, 2013 @ 6:49pm 
In the canvas settings panel set canvas roughness to 0% for a no texture canvas. If you want to remove the visual lighting model that gives the textured look of the oil paint surface, turn off canvas lights also from that panel and you'll have a completely flat look.
Coffee Mar 8, 2013 @ 10:16pm 
Originally posted by ArtRage:
In the canvas settings panel set canvas roughness to 0% for a no texture canvas. If you want to remove the visual lighting model that gives the textured look of the oil paint surface, turn off canvas lights also from that panel and you'll have a completely flat look.

Can you just do a canva texture to have that per Default instead of doing it ourself? Can't believe it's still not having that even on Artrage4.


Edit: Even if i follow what you say, it's not even work as intended.


I DON'T TALK ABOUT HAVING NO GRAIN EFFECT. You re-release the same program for 50$ and it's still have a SIMPLE BUTTON to disable any canvas effect, and i don't talk about any grain effects but also everything else.
Last edited by Coffee; Mar 8, 2013 @ 10:22pm
Veg/\ Mar 15, 2013 @ 1:52am 
you can redefine default canvas, just do as he said and look for a transparent background or whatever you need, AR is totally flexible with canvas customization, just look your options a bit harder.
Btw, if you intend doing things like photoshop, just use photoshop. Don't mess with a real painting simulator if you don't want to simulate art, pity though, does it perfectly
Coffee Mar 15, 2013 @ 5:53pm 
Originally posted by d34bru:
you can redefine default canvas, just do as he said and look for a transparent background or whatever you need, AR is totally flexible with canvas customization, just look your options a bit harder.
Btw, if you intend doing things like photoshop, just use photoshop. Don't mess with a real painting simulator if you don't want to simulate art, pity though, does it perfectly


You totally MISUNDERSTOOD.

I wanted just a SMALL thing very EASY to do, to CHECK TO DISABLE canvas texture.
Not to have to mess with thousand of slider who won't even work anyway, as the draw seems fuzzy/blurry texture, SO ITS STILL AFFECTED BY TEXTURE.

About photoshop, it was just a damm example, as the dev method ONLY MASKE THE PAINT BLURRY. AS THE DEVS NEED TO KNOW, minimize texture effect isn't the same as completly disable them by unchecking something.


I HAVE A TONS of co worker (about 50-60) who think the program is awesome, but they are having the same though on me, they find this annoying and surely not buying it as long there's no case to uncheck to disable texture ffect instead of just minimize them!!!
ArtRage  [developer] Mar 20, 2013 @ 6:13pm 
If grain roughness is set to 0% the tools are not affected by canvas texture and the canvas will have no visible texture. If lights are turned off the tools will continue to respond to texture but no bump will be rendered in to the canvas.

The paint simulation is designed specifically to work with a surface texture however and removing it completely won't necessarily produce a completely flat result. What you asked for ('a way to get no textured canvas') can be achieved with that one slider, but I don't think it's actually the effect you're trying to get and you may not be able to get that effect in the paint system.
Coffee Mar 20, 2013 @ 7:15pm 
Yeah but there's MANY others sliders. They still surely affect it somehow.


And also, why you don't have this ALREADY in the software too? You have some "settings" for the canvas took from 3.5 but still after that you don't even offer this as a setting to select, instead of having to custom it ourself, speically when there's more than the grain roughness slider.



Originally posted by ArtRage:
If grain roughness is set to 0% the tools are not affected by canvas texture and the canvas will have no visible texture. If lights are turned off the tools will continue to respond to texture but no bump will be rendered in to the canvas.

The paint simulation is designed specifically to work with a surface texture however and removing it completely won't necessarily produce a completely flat result. What you asked for ('a way to get no textured canvas') can be achieved with that one slider, but I don't think it's actually the effect you're trying to get and you may not be able to get that effect in the paint system.
404_Not_Found Mar 23, 2013 @ 8:58pm 
Look in the canvas presets and try the "cel" one? It's the one that looks like a checkerboard and an airbrush going across it. Is that what you were looking for?

Sorry if I got the name wrong but I never use that one. Might be what you need though.

If your paintbrush has texture on it, try using the ink pen instead - it doesn't produce "stroke" marks at all. You might also try the airbrush tool for blending.
Coffee Mar 23, 2013 @ 10:22pm 
Originally posted by Kaze:
Look in the canvas presets and try the "cel" one? It's the one that looks like a checkerboard and an airbrush going across it. Is that what you were looking for?

Sorry if I got the name wrong but I never use that one. Might be what you need though.

If your paintbrush has texture on it, try using the ink pen instead - it doesn't produce "stroke" marks at all. You might also try the airbrush tool for blending.

Every tool are needed and they are all affected by the canva texture in some way.

Putting it at 0 only reduce the effect but some tools are still affected by some canva settings other than tedture whcih is why i want a way to disable ALL that entirely off by unchecking something!
404_Not_Found Mar 23, 2013 @ 11:40pm 
Originally posted by Kaze:
Look in the canvas presets and try the "cel" one? It's the one that looks like a checkerboard and an airbrush going across it. Is that what you were looking for?

Sorry if I got the name wrong but I never use that one. Might be what you need though.

If your paintbrush has texture on it, try using the ink pen instead - it doesn't produce "stroke" marks at all. You might also try the airbrush tool for blending.

Every tool are needed and they are all affected by the canva texture in some way.

Putting it at 0 only reduce the effect but some tools are still affected by some canva settings other than tedture whcih is why i want a way to disable ALL that entirely off by unchecking something!

The canvas is an integral part of the engine that powers the software. I think you might benefit from trying out other software entirely, try googling Paint Tool SAI, as it does not use a canvas texture at all but has a strong blending engine.
Coffee Mar 24, 2013 @ 12:06am 
Originally posted by Kaze:

Every tool are needed and they are all affected by the canva texture in some way.

Putting it at 0 only reduce the effect but some tools are still affected by some canva settings other than tedture whcih is why i want a way to disable ALL that entirely off by unchecking something!

The canvas is an integral part of the engine that powers the software. I think you might benefit from trying out other software entirely, try googling Paint Tool SAI, as it does not use a canvas texture at all but has a strong blending engine.


I know it's a feature we should use.

But it's also a feature sometime we don't need to use, we can reduce it, but i don't see why there's no reason to not havking a option to ucheck as it's perfectly possible.
Cackles Mar 24, 2013 @ 3:39am 
I believe the thing you looking for would be the grain.
I think what you would need to do is just save a blank white picture and upload it as a grain option, and whala, no more canvas texture! V:

Or you can select the "Fine Paper" as the grain option and turn it down to 50% [lowest it'll go ]
It seems to be pretty textureless.
But yeah, I suppose if you want to have the canas to not have it's own texture to it, you might have to import a "Grain" that's just a blank white picture.
Coffee Mar 24, 2013 @ 5:19am 
Originally posted by DarnHyena:
I believe the thing you looking for would be the grain.
I think what you would need to do is just save a blank white picture and upload it as a grain option, and whala, no more canvas texture! V:

Or you can select the "Fine Paper" as the grain option and turn it down to 50% [lowest it'll go ]
It seems to be pretty textureless.
But yeah, I suppose if you want to have the canas to not have it's own texture to it, you might have to import a "Grain" that's just a blank white picture.
They asked people to pay again instead of the free patch like they promised.

I don't see why they don't add this as DEFAULT.
Cackles Mar 24, 2013 @ 4:12pm 
Well like I mentioned, finepaper has worked fine for me at having little to no noticable texture, just set the grain down to 50% to make it even smaller V:
But yeah, Just make a plain white page on like MSPaint I suppose, maybe make the size of i1000x1000 or 500x500, and save it, and in the canvas setting, click on the little image bar of the grain, and select "Load from Disk" and pick your "Grainless" texture V:
Coffee Mar 24, 2013 @ 4:17pm 
Originally posted by DarnHyena:
Well like I mentioned, finepaper has worked fine for me at having little to no noticable texture, just set the grain down to 50% to make it even smaller V:
But yeah, Just make a plain white page on like MSPaint I suppose, maybe make the size of i1000x1000 or 500x500, and save it, and in the canvas setting, click on the little image bar of the grain, and select "Load from Disk" and pick your "Grainless" texture V:

A little to non ISN'T NONE.

THIS should be a basic feature to have an option to disable it ENTIRELY
Not adding one of the most basic feature to that would only look as lazy developpement. Specially when it ask people to pay 50$ for it.
Cackles Mar 24, 2013 @ 5:28pm 
I think it'd be best for you to relax, I gave you a solution that might help fix your problem, perhaps give it a try?
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