Source port recommendations

[ladiesman217]

Don't think the steam one is good for mods, so yeah.

[Mopey bloke]

The two best ones to consider are VkQuake and Ironwail. The former requires Vulkan support, and the latter OpenGL 4.3 Look up your graphics card driver for info.

So most mods made in the previous decade or so are targeted towards QuakeSpasm, and both of the above are forks of that project. They have a few advantages:

* they support frame rates above 72 without breaking physics
* they render water warping like the original software Quake
* they have many options in the menu that QS only allows from the console
* their renderers are capable of playing large maps at hundreds of FPS
* mouse support in menus
* mod browser
* Ironwail has a map browser too
* support for custom HUDs in mods
* VkQuake supports custom particles in mods like Arcane Dimensions
* VkQuake will let you use the original or enhanced models if you use it with the new remaster files
* better anti-aliasing solutions than other ports [MSAA and SSAA]

[Electric Cupcake]

The old Darkplaces engine is still good.

[ladiesman217]

Originally posted by Electric Cupcake:

The old Darkplaces engine is still good.

i heard that there were like, music issues tho, or no?

[Mopey bloke]

And other issues. The mapping community doesn't test on Darkplaces. There are mods that'll only work in it and the Zircon Engine fork though. Quake 1.5 for one.

[Seamus]

Darkplaces is pretty out of date comparatively. vkquake or ironwall are much better options unless what you want to play specifically require darkplaces.

[ladiesman217]

Originally posted by Seamus:

Darkplaces is pretty out of date comparatively. vkquake or ironwall are much better options unless what you want to play specifically require darkplaces.

this is confusing

[Electric Cupcake]

It is old and doesn't support some modern maps, but the lighting and texture support is excellent.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2586604575

[Seamus]

Originally posted by Electric Cupcake:

It is old and doesn't support some modern maps, but the lighting and texture support is excellent.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2586604575

Those textures are ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ hideous.

[ladiesman217]

Originally posted by Seamus:

Originally posted by Electric Cupcake:

It is old and doesn't support some modern maps, but the lighting and texture support is excellent.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2586604575

Those textures are ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ hideous.

they are CHARMING

[ladiesman217]

i mostly want one for tf quake

[NeutronVortex]

Ladyhavoc put Darkplaces up on github a couple years ago and she and some others are slowly working on it again. Still no eta on a release for the new version yet though.

I prefer Ironwail as far as modern engines go but I've always had a soft spot for Darkplaces. It has some neat little features.

[ladiesman217]

Originally posted by NeutronVortex:

Ladyhavoc put Darkplaces up on github a couple years ago and she and some others are slowly working on it again. Still no eta on a release for the new version yet though.

I prefer Ironwail as far as modern engines go but I've always had a soft spot for Darkplaces. It has some neat little features.

my heads gonna explode with all these options

[NeutronVortex]

Originally posted by run:

my heads gonna explode with all these options

Just use Ironwail or vkQuake. :)

[ladiesman217]

Originally posted by NeutronVortex:

Originally posted by run:

my heads gonna explode with all these options

Just use Ironwail or vkQuake. :)

ok, which is better for mods on windows 11? (i hate this damn os but im not gonna spend money on a windows 10 key.)

[Soul]

Cannot speak for Windows 11 as I don't use it, but I played throught the entirety of Quake 1 (+Expansions old and new) on Ironwail to test it out a few months ago, and everything worked pretty well.
Also played some mods and the framerate improvement on huge maps is absolutely crazy.
Unfortunately it lacks support for the newer models, but I take what I can get.