Any Difficult Mods/Expansions?

[3 (The number) Official™]

I absolutely suck at Quake but I want to get better so I can learn more about the game and get better at mapping. I remember hearing about an expansion that was like the Quake equivalent of The Plutonia Experiment, but I forgot the name of it.

Any suggestions would be appreciated, thanks!

[Seamus]

Fair chance people were talking about Arcane Dimensions. It's a fairly substantial bit of community work.

[3 (The number) Official™]

Originally posted by Seamus:

Fair chance people were talking about Arcane Dimensions. It's a fairly substantial bit of community work.

I have actually played some of this mod, and yeah it definitely mollywhopped me when I tried it out. I think the one I was thinking about was Ground Zero, which is apparently sufficiently difficult.

[Mopey bloke]

Arcane Dimensions isn't as hard as some other mods. Like the Punishment Due included as an add-on is harder. For some reason people use the Copper mod to make hard map packs. Dwell is probably the best one.

[=RaggA=]

If you are looking for content that is a bit harder you could check out
"A Roman Wilderness of Pain". 3 map mini episode with a focus on combat and high monster count. https://www.quaddicted.com/reviews/arwop.html

[dat_potatoe]

Smej2 and Spirit World are brutal. I would *not* use them to learn about mapping as I don't agree with their design, but if you're looking for something hard then they'll definitely fit.

[3 (The number) Official™]

Originally posted by dat_potatoe:

Smej2 and Spirit World are brutal. I would *not* use them to learn about mapping as I don't agree with their design, but if you're looking for something hard then they'll definitely fit.

Yeah, it is really annoying on nightmare. I got to the 4th level and just stopped because it just got annoying to navigate that level, especially when your health is capped at 50

[Retrado the Barbarian]

https://www.quaddicted.com/reviews/quck_demo2.html
Basically tries to be modern Doom slaughterwad in Quake with all that entails. Won't lie, I found it unplayable. Also this style of gameplay never caught on among Quake mappers, I don't think anyone else tried to make anything of the sort since. But you might want to try it out at least.

[Mopey bloke]

The map from Comfybythefire[www.slipseer.com] are horde mode.