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You're invalidating my stance because I used a hyperbolic statement, while being guilty of the same thing multiple times during this discussion?
You're just evading because you got dunked on. If you would actually think before you post you could avoid such embarrassing displays of ignorance.
SHHHHHHH! Don't do that! Don't start throwing facts at them, they can't handle that sort of thing!
If you keep this up you might end up mentioning that some animals can change gender[www.discoverwildlife.com], or that they can engage in homosexual activities[www.nature.com], and then these people will just have minds BLOWN straight out of their skulls!
And then we'll have to deal with them trying to rationalize how it's all some big conspiracy by Blackrock to make animals part of the LGBTQ+ community, or something.
Yeah, I got "dunked on" by someone who... wait, I've already said this before. And I'm not going to waste any more of my time on your than I absolutely have to, so copy/paste time!
So that was you "dunking on me", was it? That's cute.
Well, do you like facts?
Not the ones about animals. Btw they do a lot of things you surely do not want to repeat and even know about.
How about the fact that people begin to see certain things there, where there is not a trace of them and the question what brought us to this extremely sad situation.
I can say just one thing - I just finished the game and it is wonderful. I am sorry for everyone who misses it for any reason.
Sounds like a lovely time, and all the time spent around this discussion board has increased my exposure to the game, and I'm kind of intrigued by it.
I'll just have to then decide if it's worth throwing it on the pile of everything else I'm already trying to play at the moment.
Also, why do you think Bernie cares that they have so much wealth? Because wealth = power. What is Blackrock doing with all that power?? Gee I wonder... surely theyre just making money and nothing else right? Haha yeah, theres no way they could have any other possible motive or objective besides making even more money.
WHAT? They can't do that, that sounds like something which requires actual effort. It would require punching up at people with actual money and power, whilst acknowledging that our current system is flawed and needs to be changed, and they don't want to do that.
It's so much easier to keep punching down at people who already have enough trouble as it is, and pretend that the status quo is just fine. It's these outliers causing trouble and suggesting that things could stand to be better than they are right now who are the real problem and need to be dealt with.
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Remember kids, when corpos say something on their website you should absolutely believe it, because they wouldn't be stating them as their objectives just to look good, they do it because they absolutely mean it and should 100% be taken at their word.
I'm sorry, I don't want to hear stuff like "you lost this debate" from someone who genuinely believes that corporations are operating a secret conspiracy to push DEI because of some agenda. Especially when DEI is supposedly all about employing people, but the gaming industry has been set by AN UNENDING STREAM OF MASS LAYOFFS in the past few years.
By the end of 2023 we reached the grim number of 10.000 layoffs, and yet in 2024 we had already reached that number by freaking June, and it hasn't slowed down since. And of course, all of these layoffs are at the ground level, not at the board of CEOs who've made the bad decisions which led them to said layoffs. Because they need to "cut costs" to make more money, but they will always cut on the people doing the work, not on the managers at the top whose salaries could pay for an entire studio's upkeep.
That sure sounds like a whole lot of "not caring about DEI the second that it affects their earnings".
Yes. That is EXACTLY all they're doing. They want more power to make more money, so they can have more power to make even more money. Because these people are already obscenely rich, they have been for DECADES now, they have more money than they'd be able to spend in their lifetimes, and yet it's never enough.
Again, welcome to Capitalism! It requires constant, unsustainable growth, because apparently some people think this world has unlimited amounts of money, consumers, and resources.
And of course they're not going to spend any of that money on something which might actually benefit mankind, like solving world hunger, giving people access to free education and healthcare, or stoping climate change. But apparently you think they will instead spend that money putting black characters in video games, because that's just a much more effective way to use their resources to further their "agenda".
Seriously dude, I think you already left the last shred of your credibility behind several posts ago, I don't think you need to keep hammering the point that you have no clue what you're talking about.
It doesn't make sense for a corporation to take on all these losses, so the only logical conclusion is they are making their gains elsewhere. Meanwhile, you have unbelievably wealthy investors such as Blackrock and Vanguard claiming to force this initiative through their investment. Why is it so crazy to make this connection?
as for money elsewhere do you know how many things disney owns they can afford losses and lets be honest buisness often times end up shooting themselves in the foot your thinking like the people in charge are smart there just morally bankrupt and if they did have a plan someone would of wrote a book by now just like all (not literally all)nthe people who worked for trump did after they were no longer working for him because snakes arnt loyal worth ♥♥♥♥ and would of already be trying to make money off of this .
also what would they gain because if anything if they are trying something its to divide us and make us fight about things that dont matter like the skin color of a indie game character.
I know it's easy to stick your head in the sand and pretend the extremely wealthy don't have their own motives or aspirations for the planet, but they do.
I find it impossible to take anything you say seriously. You do not have an understanding of how people with actual aspirations function. You don't simply crave more money when you're one of the 0.01%, you don't just dream about owning another 10 yachts, you think about what you can actually do with that kind of power, and being a billionaire does not cut it. Being a trillionaire? With the budget that rivals the richest countries on earth? Larry Fink already has access to that kind of wealth, and what he's doing with it is influencing the west to fit what he and his buddies deem to be good for the planet. As in, everyone should look the same, everyone should speak the same language, everyone should be atheist or at least agnostic, and everyone should be content with owning nothing. It's called globalism.
I don't understand why you think that someone with that much power is not doing anything with it. Do you sincerely think Larry Fink sits around all day thinking about what kind of real estate he can pick up in New York? If you had access to 20 trillion dollars and it was growing year by year, you're telling me you would just buy a few yachts and forget about the world? Good for you lmfao. it is incredibly naive and childish of you to think that the super rich aren't attempting to influence societies into what they believe they should be.
You actually think like a child.
what possible gsin would having more characters that arnt white accomplice.
on the same note what are the rich people who own a majority of the news programs who are against the woke as they call it planning and hoping for because lets not forget the people spreading the news that woke is a thing are also rich greedy and power hungry as anyone else.
OK, usually I wouldn't waste my time with you, but since this is such a popular falacy, I'll address it:
Disney keeps pursuing these "unpopular DEI/ESG initiatives" because IT MAKES THEM MONEY. It's why they're still a multi-billion dollar company.[companiesmarketcap.com]
Now, of course if your only source of "information" are performative outrage grifters screaming about pronouns and your echo-chambers of "Disney is doomed now, look at this big drop in their stock value", then yeah, all you'd ever see is the drops (which tend to follow world economy trends anyway) but never ever any of the climbs, so of course you'd think that dropping is all they do.
Still, you'd think that after WELL OVER A DECADE of "this is it, Disney is doomed now, get woke go broke, they're really screwed this time" which never manages to materialize (despite how many times WokeHunter69420 promises that no, for realsies, this time it's really happening), I would have expected at least some of you to realize something's off, and that all this crying of "wolf" means these people are just straight-up lying to you.
But no, instead you just keep watching their videos religiously and signing up to their Patreons or whatever. Because you want someone who'll tell you what you want to hear, not the uncomfortable truth.
Because, again, the boards for Blackrock, Vanguard, and State Street all got together and agreed between them to lose money on Disney because as old, rich, straight white men they care so much about the people who are not like them, and about the issues which don't affect them directly in any way, shape, or form.
And also their shareholders to whom they answer to, who tend to expect Blackrock/Vanguard/State Street to make smart investments so they can share in the profits from said investments are equally fine with seeing their own money go up in smoke, because Disney added a 2-second gay kiss (which can be easily be edited out for China and Arab countries, since they care so much about pushing the LGBTQ+ agenda, right?).
Seriously folks. Just... THINK about any of the things you're saying for a second. I'm begging you here.
Oh yeah, they do: ensure that the status quo remains the same as it's ever been so they can keep their grip on their money-making factory.
Spoiler alert, you're on the side that benefits them the most on that front, and I'm sure they're very appreciative of that little fact.
It's kind of adorable that you think the people who have routinely destroyed art for a tax break have any kind of aspirations.
Of course, buddy. That must be why, despite the constant record-breaking levels of profits that the gaming industry (and others) keeps earning, they continue to have ALL THOSE LAYOFFS YOU KEEP IGNORING.
The bar for being a decent person is so low in this situation. All these corporations are making more money than God, so all they have to do is just not be absolute monsters, let studios work like they did, and keep raking in all that money. But no, they could make some extra money by cutting on costs at the expense of thousands of jobs, so that's what they do.
Not because they need to, just because they want to. And so you have situations like this:
EA's top execs earned $60m in last fiscal year, despite company layoffs[www.eurogamer.net]
Or this:
Twitch employees are worried the service could become a 'zombie brand', as a potential third round of layoffs looms, but luckily CEO Dan Clancy only eats 'medium-sized dinners' during international trips to meet streamers
And also this
Bungie CEO criticised for spending millions on classic cars, as calls for leadership changes escalate[www.eurogamer.net]
That's just in the last couple of months, and strictly confined to the gaming industry. But please, tell us more about how concerned you are about unfair hiring practices, and how the people with all the money are secretly plotting to push their agenda even if it costs them money.
The people who complain about "wokeness": "They want us to be tolerant and accepting of everyone. People who aren't white, people who aren't straight, people who aren't Christians, people who don't identify as either male or female, they all need to feel like such unique little snowflakes. Also, we're going to complain non-stop about DEI, in which the D stands for DIVERSITY!"
ALSO the people who complain about "wokeness": "They want us all to look the same, talk the same, believe in the same, and own the same!"
Seriously guys, if you're going to engage in these fallacies, could you at least PICK ONE and stick with it? Pretty please?
Which is still more than I can say about you.