Originally posted by Motodog242:

Tell you don't play Grendel without tell us. Grendel is stupid strong, especially after his buffs this year.

His 1 is useful mainly because he has that passive. 2 is good no matter what. 4 can be useful for armor strip.

His 3 however, ball form, just knocks enemies around and barely does any damage while making it impossible to use melee or guns. It's one of the worst abilities in the game cause it just wastes time. Even Stug can out dps his 3.

the only prime frame that im excited for

at least when cross save comes i know i am not seeing outside for a good 3 days

UwU Prime

it's only use is being subsumed. nuff said.

redditor prime

Originally posted by TheMetalCorpser:

Originally posted by Motodog242:

Tell you don't play Grendel without tell us. Grendel is stupid strong, especially after his buffs this year.

His 1 is useful mainly because he has that passive. 2 is good no matter what. 4 can be useful for armor strip.

His 3 however, ball form, just knocks enemies around and barely does any damage while making it impossible to use melee or guns. It's one of the worst abilities in the game cause it just wastes time. Even Stug can out dps his 3.

his ball form is a movement ability not a damage ability so dps does not really matter, has a heal and according to the wiki it also is an armor strip

bacana , meu warframe favorito tendo sua versão prime , hora do comedor de gatas brilhar novamente.

Originally posted by Ascythian:

Min-Maxxers are the worst.

Stop ruining the game for the 99.9%.

Bud not everything opposite of using non-meta stuff is min-maxing. His 3 does almost no damage even at Sortie lvls. Hilariously enough I actually use more non-meta weapons and frames then meta ones. And yes I do push stats on ALL weapons and frames as high as I can. Why would you not? Unless you like wasting your own time shooting the same enemy for several minutes.

Originally posted by Pvt. Parts:

his ball form is a movement ability not a damage ability so dps does not really matter, has a heal and according to the wiki it also is an armor strip

Which has no value in WF where dps is king. There's no need to move in ball form like that when bullet jumping is superior. There's no need to heal if you kill before they hurt him (Magus Repair makes most healing abilities not worth the energy to use).

And yes 3 does have armor strip but you have to bounce around near the enemy to deplete it and even then your ball damage still won't hurt lvl 50+ enemies fast enough before a new player can wipe them out while you roll around. It doesn't need to be on par with something like Miasma but it also doesn't need to be useless compared to most other abilities in-game. Grendel's 3 is on par with Inaros' 3 in terms of how bad those abilities are.

best prime getting his time to shine (i main Grendel)

Average warframe player

Disappointment Prime.

another uselesss frame for mastery