How to stealth with Ivara?

[Sauce Boss]

I'm trying to figure out how to best utilize stealth with Ivara. So far Loki feels superior.
Got any tips and/or tricks for me?

[Dusklite]

A few.

• Rolling won't break her Prowl and is a lot faster than moving.
• Firing a non silenced weapon will make her visible so consider to silence them if you use Ivara.
• Her melee attacks cost energy while in Prowl, so does taking damage.
• Her stealing can pay for upkeep of Prowl which can make her invisibility more energy efficient.

I don't think her stealth is any better than Loki's. Just different. More deliberate, less wasteful but also slower and with drawbacks.

[Sauce Boss]

Yeah, I noticed. Her stealth ability is alot more energy-hungry than I had anticipated...

[Dusklite]

Originally posted by Cybird:

Yeah, I noticed. Her stealth ability is alot more energy-hungry than I had anticipated...

Duration and energy efficiency should make it more efficient than Loki's, though.

[Halyon]

Use a mod that helps roll distance/speed, then proceed to play Sonic the Hedgehog all day every day year long.

[Sauce Boss]

Originally posted by Dusklite:

Originally posted by Cybird:

Yeah, I noticed. Her stealth ability is alot more energy-hungry than I had anticipated...

Duration and energy efficiency should make it more efficient than Loki's, though.

Efficient in what situations though?
Loki can perform any and all maneuvers while cloaked: Faster = Shorter mission duration = Less overall energy consumption. Is Ivara more efficient in terms of energy per second? Because if so then I should try her out for infinite missions.

Also, Loki can regenerate energy while cloaked. Ivara can't. Hm...

[Dusklite]

Originally posted by Cybird:

Originally posted by Dusklite:

Duration and energy efficiency should make it more efficient than Loki's, though.

Efficient in what situations though?
Loki can perform any and all maneuvers while cloaked: Faster = Shorter mission duration = Less overall energy consumption. Is Ivara more efficient in terms of energy per second? Because if so then I should try her out for infinite missions.

Also, Loki can regenerate energy while cloaked. Ivara can't. Hm...

Yeah, I've said Ivara's stealth is different. One thing is that unless you move a lot, Ivara can sustain her invis a lot cheaper. Also, stealing energy from nearby enemies is a thing with Prowl.

So naturally, mission types like survival are catering more to her set of abilities. I've tested a Cloak Arrow build for team Survival. It's actually quite nice what you can do for your team with that. Prowl is less effective there, though. For Defense it might come in handy for personal protection, same with Interception.

For solo Survival, I don't recommend her, though. You want enemies to come to you which doesn't work at maximum efficiency when they can't see her. For solo Interception it's less useful as well since you move a lot. Solo Defense... well, you really need to shoot lots of stuff going for the target more than you, so... not so good, either. Then again, neither does Loki shine with invisibility there.

edit: unless you need to do a solo Survival without killing to reveal a riven mod. In that case Ivara makes it a no brainer.

[jonnin]

max efficency will drop her to around 1 energy/sec or less. With flow you can sit on 500+ seconds without any refills. Then lay about with melee or a slient weapon like zhuge or something. If you are killing you should be set to earn more energy than you use. I carry master thief and pop lockers with her when perma stealthed.

That is one way.
Method 2 is to max range and duration and drop the stealth arrow bubbles. These work on your friends too, but limit mobility of course.

Ivara is very flexible. Perma stealth is 1 way to play, #4 bow death and #1 buff arrows can also be quite a team player. #2 can clear a room with a glaive. She has lots of creative options, but she isnt built for speed runs. You can't sneak thru a map in 30 seconds, that isnt her job.

She excels at spy and survival and other endless missions or at playing the sniper. She is excellent for doing content above your ability, and that is not only from using prowl. She isnt a power frame ... lacks AOE for that ... but she is very good for solo players and very good for creative thinking.

actually enemy do come to her, get to a specific distance and then look confused. They are programmed to know where to go to look, and they go there, but then can't see :) Its good enough. Solo defense gets your pod shot up, that is true, and invisible arrow on the pod does not work. Interception depends on the map, some have tight locations and are fine.

Another place she excels is looking for faction tokens without being bothered all the time.

[Totally Innocent Chatbot]

If and when you end up getting Octavia, she is pretty much a direct upgrade from Loki as an invis frame. Longer possible duration, plus its duration can be refreshed while it's still active. Only downside is if her music gets on your nerves (though it is possible to specifically mute Octavia in settings without affecting other audio settings).

[Archwraith]

Use Rakta Cernos while playing Ivara for constant energy gain. Rakta based weapon, Synoid too, have innate energy restore once the syndicate buff is active. This way, you'll never run out of energy while plowing your way through.

[jonnin]

Originally posted by Archwraith:

Use Rakta Cernos while playing Ivara for constant energy gain. Rakta based weapon, Synoid too, have innate energy restore once the syndicate buff is active. This way, you'll never run out of energy while plowing your way through.

I much prefer the offhand to the bow. The offhand has an auto burst or single shot bow function, leaving the main open to something that can kill fast (I use zhuge which counts as a bow for #4).

[Archwraith]

Originally posted by jonnin:

Originally posted by Archwraith:

Use Rakta Cernos while playing Ivara for constant energy gain. Rakta based weapon, Synoid too, have innate energy restore once the syndicate buff is active. This way, you'll never run out of energy while plowing your way through.

I much prefer the offhand to the bow. The offhand has an auto burst or single shot bow function, leaving the main open to something that can kill fast (I use zhuge which counts as a bow for #4).

Matter of preference in the end. I pick Rakta Cernos since I already have a riven for it and capable of getting orange crit without Critical Delay.

[Nasty Peep]

Originally posted by Dusklite:

Originally posted by Cybird:

Yeah, I noticed. Her stealth ability is alot more energy-hungry than I had anticipated...

Duration and energy efficiency should make it more efficient than Loki's, though.

Yeah I maxed out efficiency, it helped a lot

[Sauce Boss]

Lots of useful info here guys, thanks.
And I had no idea Octavia could cloak. Will look into.

[Nasty Peep]

Originally posted by Cybird:

Lots of useful info here guys, thanks.
And I had no idea Octavia could cloak. Will look into.

She can, but it's a lot less practical. Requires you to squat-dance, whereas Ivara can one-handed cast her own toggle-cloak. Ivara cloak gets pickpocketing and headshot boost. Octavia is a jack of all trades.

[KitKat]

Octavia is way better as a stealth warframe than Ivara could ever be. I made a beautiful "song" for Octavia that doesn't sound like randomly placed sounds(made a Second Dream theme). Two quick crouches and I'm in stealth. Running doesn't break it. Shooting a non-silenced weapon doesn't break it(even tho alerts enemies), Doesn't drain energy constantly, only need to recast her 3 from time time(with energy regen it's no problem). And just don't forget to crouch from time to time. As well as jumping, melee attacks or ranged attacks give you other bonuses like run speed, etc... So... Yeah.