Glaive Control Scheme

[WZ]

Is there a way to set Glaives to do their heavy attack by, you know, pressing the heavy attack button? Like every other melee weapon? Can't find anything under Controls nor Accessibility nor anywhere.

Glaives are stuck with this annoying outdated scheme because they were the OG to have an alternate attack I guess? Yes it's a throw, but the same is true for Spears & they handle perfectly fine.

[Moby The Duck]

I have found that if you bind your melee attack to the scroll wheel, scrolling it once makes the Glaive automatically do the throw attack.

[The Big Brzezinski]

My thought would be to bind throwing melee weapons to E plus left click.

[pirate135246]

heavy attack detonation is the same as other melees for me, its middle mouse

[Draconic Creature]

Originally posted by pirate135246:

heavy attack detonation is the same as other melees for me, its middle mouse

That's not what their question was about.

[Jesse]

Originally posted by WZ:

Is there a way to set Glaives to do their heavy attack by, you know, pressing the heavy attack button? Like every other melee weapon? Can't find anything under Controls nor Accessibility nor anywhere.

Glaives are stuck with this annoying outdated scheme because they were the OG to have an alternate attack I guess? Yes it's a throw, but the same is true for Spears & they handle perfectly fine.

Do you have Melee Heavy Attack bound in your settings? Works fine for my glaives on that binding. Hit it once to throw, then again to detonate.

[WZ]

Originally posted by Jesse:

Originally posted by WZ:

Is there a way to set Glaives to do their heavy attack by, you know, pressing the heavy attack button? Like every other melee weapon? Can't find anything under Controls nor Accessibility nor anywhere.

Glaives are stuck with this annoying outdated scheme because they were the OG to have an alternate attack I guess? Yes it's a throw, but the same is true for Spears & they handle perfectly fine.

Do you have Melee Heavy Attack bound in your settings? Works fine for my glaives on that binding. Hit it once to throw, then again to detonate.

I do, absolutely & I really wish it worked like you say cuz that's exactly what I want! To have the "Heavy Attack" binding trigger the throw / detonation.

But the only way I can throw Glaives is by holding & releasing the primary attack button. Using the "Heavy Attack" binding does nothing except detonation if available / already in flight. This in turns means I cannot "hold to continuously melee" like I can with every other melee weapon. Does that part work for you?

It doesn't matter whether I use the "Melee Attack" binding or fully equip the melee weapon and use "Fire Weapon", they both behave that way, holding it will charge & throw rather than spam melee attacks. Not a fan of button mash / carpal tunnel, they fixed it for all other melees, hoping to get the same fix working for glaives.

[pirate135246]

Originally posted by Draconic Creature:

Originally posted by pirate135246:

heavy attack detonation is the same as other melees for me, its middle mouse

That's not what their question was about.

"Is there a way to set Glaives to do their heavy attack by, you know, pressing the heavy attack button?"........ it does

[FubarOne]

The charge to throw isn't a heavy attack (even though the charge speed is based on heavy attack wind-up) since glaives will fly out and either return at max range or bounce on contact with enemies/surfaces without doing a heavy attack unless you specifically trigger the heavy attack explosion. The whole point of them is the throw, hence why holding down melee is how you throw them. Having it spam light attacks would defeat the whole purpose for using a glaive and would beg the question of why wouldn't you just use any of the dozen other weapon types that do it better.

[WZ]

I do use other weapons 99% of the time, precisely because glaives suck so much with their carpal tunnel syndrome gameplay. They fixed that for every other melee weapon, heck they even went overboard & fixed it for semi-auto guns. Why not fix it for glaives as well? Even if one likes the "main attack to throw", the least they should do is make the next throw charge up if you're still holding the button upon return.

I would like to be able play / enjoy glaives. Their base attack melee pattern is pretty cool. There is no reason they can't have both the throw AND the detonation bound to heavy attack. You can in fact hold just about any button. And the cool thing about options is : people can turn them or on off depending on preference. A toggle in control or accessibility options & we're set.

[FubarOne]

Glaives work fine, the controls aren't that complicated or "carpal tunnel syndrome", and the changes you want go against the current control scheme. If you want light attacks, why are you even using a glaive? The whole point is that they can be thrown, they can bounce, they can explode, they can do stupendous amounts of damage to either large swathes of enemies or to single targets to the point the game stops showing damage and bosses just die.

There are 250 other melee weapons that function the way you're asking for, and the one category of melee weapons that functions differently you want to make work the same but in a way that makes their actual purpose so much more annoying to use.

Having to hold heavy attack to charge the throw would be a bigger hassle, and wouldn't make sense since the throw doesn't do a heavy attack. It uses heavy attack wind up because it used to use attack speed but people were able to stack attack speed until the charge barely happened at all so it was changed. But the throw itself isn't a heavy attack. The bounces and explosions from the volatile mods aren't heavy attacks. The heavy attack is the explosion from using heavy attack while the glaive is flying. Hence why it's triggered by the heavy attack button instead of the regular melee button.

I myself pretty much only use glaives that work better without the heavy attack explosion. I build them for combo. Why would I use heavy attack to throw when there's no heavy attacks at all in the way I use them?

[WZ]

You ok bro? What's up with all the bad faith nonsense? Chill.
You don't get the concept of options? We can all have fun.

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a thing that is or may be chosen.

[AYAYA]

Yeah I think it would be better if the Heavy Attack button immediately threw the glaive when it's still in your hand. It's not like the button is doing anything else at that point.

[Basan™]

Originally posted by AYAYA:

Yeah I think it would be better if the Heavy Attack button immediately threw the glaive when it's still in your hand. It's not like the button is doing anything else at that point.

Perhaps trying ot get one of its postures heavy slash combo's?

Although tbh, I don't see what the actual fuss is all about tossing a Glaive with "E" (for melee attacks) + "Righ mouse click" (for aiming). If not mistaken, that's how I do it and to repeat it then simply presse the heavy melee attack button which for me it's upon the "Middle Mouse Button".
And, yet again, we fall back into customizing your controls options. And considering that I don't even use WASD for the default movement keys, please also take that with a few grains (or bucket loads) of .