I am really angry at DE after 1999

[VeraelHasta]

I loved the quest. But the longer passes after I've done it, I'm getting more and more angry at DE for it.

It could have been so much more.
If only you guys stopped rushing things.

I know you want the player to have access to the new area fast. I know the quest feeling disjointed might be on purpose.

But man. It would be so much better if you guys spaced it a little. Gave as more exposition between the stages - like letting us talk with all of the Hex between missions - it could be optional ofc. Or even delaying the quest parts a little bit. Or giving us a few more steps to play as the hex on the side - dunno, maybe even a flashback to how they got changed, so we could learn more.

I don't know what it is that pushes DE into making quests like this, but after most of them I'm like "Man, that is it? Where are all the answers or story?".

It is like they have a basket full of story bits, but they only throw half of them at us, leaving the other half for themselves :<

[Douchebag Extraordinaire]

While I agree that their storytelling has been barebones, that's not the point of the quest, it's more of an introduction to them and it's actually different this time. Dumping that type of information during the last days of death isn't going to do well for the pacing BUT opening up the world for you to explore everyone's backstory from their motivations and history, while actively being in their lives is a huge step up compared to the old stuff.

Yes, the IM format isn't the flashiest way to show this information but at the same time, I would rather read it than have to go through some forced scripted event for the Team Lunch or trying to make sense of the word salad stuff that Amir spouts out.

Hopefully, they add this type of stuff to the older factions like the Entratis and the Holdfasts.

[romy]

dude, you just did the intro quest. speak to kalymos in the backroom to unlock the finale, it is literally what you are asking for lmao.

[VeraelHasta]

Originally posted by romy:

dude, you just did the intro quest. speak to kalymos in the backroom to unlock the finale, it is literally what you are asking for lmao.

I know there is a second part, I didn't unlock it yet. But I honestly don't believe it will fix my first impression of it. At most I expect to learn a clue as to why the explosion matters.

[Sloznoprikolog]

You shouldnt expect WoW Legion level from small indit companies

[romy]

Originally posted by VeraelHasta:

Originally posted by romy:

dude, you just did the intro quest. speak to kalymos in the backroom to unlock the finale, it is literally what you are asking for lmao.

I know there is a second part, I didn't unlock it yet. But I honestly don't believe it will fix my first impression of it. At most I expect to learn a clue as to why the explosion matters.

dude, it is LITERALLY what you ask for it to be. honestly I wondered if it was a satirical post at first, but you seem to legit not have done it yet.

[VeraelHasta]

Originally posted by romy:

Originally posted by VeraelHasta:

I know there is a second part, I didn't unlock it yet. But I honestly don't believe it will fix my first impression of it. At most I expect to learn a clue as to why the explosion matters.

dude, it is LITERALLY what you ask for it to be. honestly I wondered if it was a satirical post at first, but you seem to legit not have done it yet.

And you keep missing my point. That the quest was disjointed and didn't offer everything I think it should.

I wrote in the first post that I know It might have been on purpose and it still doesn't change how I feel about it. I still love it, but in my opinion it is a very lackluster "introduction".

[romy]

Originally posted by VeraelHasta:

Originally posted by romy:

dude, it is LITERALLY what you ask for it to be. honestly I wondered if it was a satirical post at first, but you seem to legit not have done it yet.

And you keep missing my point. That the quest was disjointed and didn't offer everything I think it should.

and you keep missing the fact you didn't finish the quest yet because it offers PRECISELY what you think it should, lol

[Shard of Manus]

Originally posted by romy:

Originally posted by VeraelHasta:

And you keep missing my point. That the quest was disjointed and didn't offer everything I think it should.

and you keep missing the fact you didn't finish the quest yet because it offers PRECISELY what you think it should, lol

No, it doesn't.

[romy]

Originally posted by Shard of Manus:

Originally posted by romy:

and you keep missing the fact you didn't finish the quest yet because it offers PRECISELY what you think it should, lol

No, it doesn't.

ok and the sky is made of jelly beans I guess.

[Good Night Owl]

Originally posted by romy:

Originally posted by Shard of Manus:

No, it doesn't.

ok and the sky is made of jelly beans I guess.

It's pretty clear to me he's frustrated with the structure of the quest rather than how much story there is, or if you get the answers in the finale.

Also, isn't the finale only like 15 minutes, while the 'intro' as you called it an entire hour? I ask this because I too, have not done the finale. But when the game bugged out and put the finale in my codex, that is what it told me. If that's true, it's kind of misleading to brand it as an 'intro' as if we're going to be spending all that time in the finale rather than the other way around.

[romy]

Originally posted by Good Night Owl:

It's pretty clear to me he's frustrated with the structure of the quest rather than how much story there is, or if you get the answers in the finale.

exactly. it's pretty clear it is about the structure and not other stuff. and when you'll play the finale you'll realize the structure is actually PRECISELY what OP is asking for.

story and answers is BS regardless is you ask me but this is not the topic as you said yourself.

[VeraelHasta]

Originally posted by romy:

Originally posted by Good Night Owl:

It's pretty clear to me he's frustrated with the structure of the quest rather than how much story there is, or if you get the answers in the finale.

exactly. it's pretty clear it is about the structure and not other stuff. and when you'll play the finale you'll realize the structure is actually PRECISELY what OP is asking for.

story and answers is BS regardless is you ask me but this is not the topic as you said yourself.

W-what? Then it is even more stupid what you are arguing for xd
Do you mean, that playing the finale, which is probably a short replay of the last mission with a different outcome, will somehow retroactively fix my impression of how the introduciton quest was done?

[romy]

Originally posted by romy:

and when you'll play the finale you'll realize the structure is actually PRECISELY what OP is asking for.

actually you don't even need to play the finale. just talk to kalymos in the backroom and you'll know.

[romy]

Originally posted by Good Night Owl:

Also, isn't the finale only like 15 minutes, while the 'intro' as you called it an entire hour? I ask this because I too, have not done the finale. But when the game bugged out and put the finale in my codex, that is what it told me. If that's true, it's kind of misleading to brand it as an 'intro' as if we're going to be spending all that time in the finale rather than the other way around.

it's about right about the time of both quests. finale felt a bit short to me. but i don't understand your point, intro means "beginning" and finale means "ending" if you call the first quest "finale" and the last quest "intro" it doesn"t make any sense lol, it's unrelated to the length of those quests.

[romy]

Originally posted by VeraelHasta:

Do you mean, that playing the finale, which is probably a short replay of the last mission with a different outcome, will somehow retroactively fix my impression of how the introduciton quest was done?

why would it mean such a thing ? this was never in the discussion lol.

I just pointed out that the structure of the quest was exactly what you asked for it to be, you just didn't finished it yet.

here is what you asked for :

Originally posted by VeraelHasta:

But man. It would be so much better if you guys spaced it a little. Gave as more exposition between the stages - like letting us talk with all of the Hex between missions - it could be optional ofc. Or even delaying the quest parts a little bit. Or giving us a few more steps to play as the hex on the side - dunno, maybe even a flashback to how they got changed, so we could learn more.

I don't know what it is that pushes DE into making quests like this, but after most of them I'm like "Man, that is it? Where are all the answers or story?".

and as I explained, this is how the quest is structured. if I understand correctly you are between intro mission and finale mission right now so you are precisely in that "space" that is "letting you talk with the hex between missions" since "quest parts" are "delayed a little bit" where you can "learn more" about "how they got changed" and find "answers or story".