Bounties on Orb Vallis are so broken

[Puff]

The bounty stage where you have to defend a drone is so poorly designed that the coildrives that spawn with units in them, drop them off, and then drive around (sliding sideways) dealing high damage to the drone while never actually contacting the drone (because the hitbox on the coildrive is clearly way too large) and then it will drive around in circles, sliding, contacting the drone with no actual contact, dealing insanely high damage (no other enemies alive and the coildrive will solo kill the drone in 15 seconds or less).

If you play this game with only melee on a frame with no ability damage, ranged damage, and try to go through all of the missions you will find SO MANY ISSUES with things. Yet there are special quests to do things with melee only (clearly randomized with little thought/testing).

And then to top it off this game likes to waste as much of your time as possible (many days to get requirements for necramech/steel path, then many days to craft the requirements, then many days to wait for the final product to be crafted).

What really gets me though is the fact that their MAX platinum cost is 50 on crafted items, for a 72 HOUR item. 72 hour item with 71 hours out of 72 will cost 26 platinum (LOL). 99% complete on a 72 hour item and it costs 26 platinum to complete........ Hahahahahahaha. You can also craft things that take no time at all and it costs 25 platinum to rush. Items with 1 second left cost 3 platinum.

Disgusted by greedy companies. Impossible to turn a corner and not walk past 5 greedy companies with little to no thought or care for how they get money.

[Illusive Soul]

Originally posted by Puff:

If you play this game with only melee on a frame with no ability damage, ranged damage, and try to go through all of the missions you will find SO MANY ISSUES with things.

that sounds like your issue,i pick Mesa,Pew pew and get the job done,seems like you picking a frame that not suitable for the mission you doing,or you just not ready to do those mission Yet.

Originally posted by Puff:

What really gets me though is the fact that their MAX platinum cost is 50 on crafted items, for a 72 HOUR item. 72 hour item with 71 hours out of 72 will cost 26 platinum (LOL). 99% complete on a 72 hour item and it costs 26 platinum to complete........ Hahahahahahaha. You can also craft things that take no time at all and it costs 25 platinum to rush. Items with 1 second left cost 3 platinum.

Disgusted by greedy companies. Impossible to turn a corner and not walk past 5 greedy companies with little to no thought or care for how they get money.

idk man,maybe go look for other F2P game that similar like WF standard,also hope those game can offer you more things to play and no time gated ?

i just play other game when the item are crating,came back to pick up and continue grind other stuff.

[Khanwolf]

Originally posted by Puff:

If you play this game with only melee on a frame with no ability damage, ranged damage, and try to go through all of the missions you will find SO MANY ISSUES with things. Yet there are special quests to do things with melee only (clearly randomized with little thought/testing).

you limit yourself for what reason? it is a shooter with OP weapons.

the steel path grind is relative, if you are a Trader already (it is a Trading Game in the end). you will find Necramech Sets from 4-40 Plat in the market depending on the day of the week. no grind needed for the whole Set!

Originally posted by Puff:

the coildrives

this would be a good reason for a Sniper or a Shottie, you simply onetap it and forget it. dunno why you said a Coildrive was alive for 15 more seconds. Thats the issue!

for farming in orb vallis i recommend any impact sniper, impact shotguns and the Perigale modded for less Spread and less Recoil, Nyx and Baruuk will clear the Steel Path Vallis with no hussle... but you have to get rid of the Coildrives! No more 15 seconds rule. It is the most buggy and also one of the most OP damage output units of the game.

[Puff]

If I HAVE to choose another frame and use a specific weapon to do any quest below Steel Path, then the game is simply designed poorly. No other explanation needed. Done. That's it.

[Puff]

Also, New War quest that takes a weeks time of gathering trash materials, getting trash blueprints that you will never use again, just to get a quest unlocked that requires you to complete it before moving on. And in this quest you spam roll and attack for an hour and that's your entire gameplay. Trying your hardest to get your new character to be useful at all. Playing as Grineer and then Corpus instead of just watching them you have to painfully spam buttons for FOREVER until the boring mission that I got all those materials for is FINALLY OVER. What a waste of time.

Necramech takes 3 entire days to craft, after you spend many days getting the required faction, blueprints, materials, waiting for individual items to all craft, then waiting, then waiting, then waiting, then repeating, then waiting, then waiting. OR you can spend 50 platinum to make the 72 hours go by instantly. But if you don't, and you have 1 hour left out of those 72, it will still cost you 26 platinum.

All for this waste of time quest, just to be able to play the game on a difficulty that actually drops the gear you need to improve your character. So you just spent weeks of time for literally no other reason then to get 1 or 2 different things to help your warframe deal more damage. When every single moment before this quest was all progress. As soon as you start this quest you are now going backwards for a week minimum.

This disgusts me to the core. I can't imagine the feeble mind of the dev that decided this was smart. Must be non-existent.

[Puff]

Originally posted by Khanwolf:

Originally posted by Puff:

If you play this game with only melee on a frame with no ability damage, ranged damage, and try to go through all of the missions you will find SO MANY ISSUES with things. Yet there are special quests to do things with melee only (clearly randomized with little thought/testing).

you limit yourself for what reason? it is a shooter with OP weapons.

the steel path grind is relative, if you are a Trader already (it is a Trading Game in the end). you will find Necramech Sets from 4-40 Plat in the market depending on the day of the week. no grind needed for the whole Set!

Originally posted by Puff:

the coildrives

this would be a good reason for a Sniper or a Shottie, you simply onetap it and forget it. dunno why you said a Coildrive was alive for 15 more seconds. Thats the issue!

for farming in orb vallis i recommend any impact sniper, impact shotguns and the Perigale modded for less Spread and less Recoil, Nyx and Baruuk will clear the Steel Path Vallis with no hussle... but you have to get rid of the Coildrives! No more 15 seconds rule. It is the most buggy and also one of the most OP damage output units of the game.

And the fact that you say just go buy the necramech is pure comedy gold. Your point is now pointless.

Just kill the coildrive, just kill the thing that has 5x the durability of every single other enemy you face there. It also automatically knocks you back if you are within 5 ft of it (brain-dead hitbox). So you can't melee or heavy attack near it, even. They also gave it guns because it didn't already do way too much damage in a giant circle around it whether it is even driving forward or just sliding sideways (another quality addition from the devs).

You're probably end game one shotting steel path enemies that are level 100+. I have beaten every single mission in this game that is physically possible to beat with melee only. I have encountered every single problem and suffered through it. You casually picked the most OP Warframe from a YouTube video when you started, picked an OP gun, and never played melee or even have a clue.

[Puff]

Just spend money guys. In the free to play game, just spend money! Why don't you have platinum to just spend? Just click the button type in your information and there you go! Go grind for hours to get some random chance to get a decent item then go spend hours trying to sell something just to go ahead and buy the biggest checkpoint item in the entire game!

Spend 50 platinum (lucky they set a maximum or this would definitely be HUNDREDS of platinum to rush a 72 hour item) just to get ONE ITEM completed. To save you DAYS. After you just spent DAYS. And during that time you get to experience just how worthless 90% of bounties are on all 3 planets. Huge time sinks, huge waste of time, all just for very specific items that you most likely will never actually care about or use.

I love wasting time. It's my favorite. I designed an entire game around it. But then I also really love money so I made all the time wasting skip-able with the right amount of money. But I also want to get money without spending money, so I made it called Platinum and you can just take your gear and sell it to players for free everything. I can make money while making money! -Devs

[Puff]

Don't you worry about all the problems and bugs in the game that everyones CONSTANTLY talking about. It's fiiiinneee. Just send another skin or something out and they will forget about it and spend more moneyyyyy!

[Basan™]

Although I like WarFrame (WF) and still enjoy playing it but not as oftenly as used to, what I still find appauling is people defending Digital Extremes' (DE)'s fault to properly fix year long bugs that many times prevented you (in the not so long past) from getting that mission's rewards if the so called mission bugged out for some out of your control reason.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2953145850
Since by now DE is a multi millions Dollars ($) profit company, it's only reasonable to start asking for some quality of life fixes and improvements being finally addressed in this now 10 years old game. But perhaps it's always the consumer's fault to find those bugs and not the developers to fix and/or properly test those before releasing into the general public.

[Puff]

Originally posted by Basan™:

Although I like WarFrame (WF) and still enjoy playing it but not as oftenly as used to, what I still find appauling is people defending Digital Extremes' (DE)'s fault to properly fix year long bugs that many times prevented you (in the not so long past) from getting that mission's rewards if the so called mission bugged out for some out of your control reason.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2953145850
Since by now DE is a multi millions Dollars ($) profit company, it's only reasonable to start asking for some quality of life fixes and improvements being finally addressed in this now 10 years old game. But perhaps it's always the consumer's fault to find those bugs and not the developers to fix and/or properly test those before releasing into the general public. :baa:

It is literally never the consumers fault to find problems with the devs game while they work on skins and other pointless garbage.

[The Big Brzezinski]

Loki with a staticor works fine. You wanna know what Decoy is good for? Here ya go.

You like melee? Go get yourself a zaw with an Exodia Contagion arcane from the currently running Plague Star event. Turns your melee weapon into a field cannon.

[Puff]

Originally posted by The Big Brzezinski:

Loki with a staticor works fine. You wanna know what Decoy is good for? Here ya go.

You like melee? Go get yourself a zaw with an Exodia Contagion arcane from the currently running Plague Star event. Turns your melee weapon into a field cannon.

Yeah and how easy is it to make a Zaw? Just about as worthless as the necramech.

[The Big Brzezinski]

Zaws are easy to make. They just take PoE materials and Ostron rep. I have several I use in different loadouts. They're my favorite melee weapons. Kitguns are similarly my favorite firearms.

These are the tools I use to accomplish the things you said you're having trouble with. Try them for yourself or do something different.

[Puff]

Originally posted by The Big Brzezinski:

Zaws are easy to make. They just take PoE materials and Ostron rep. I have several I use in different loadouts. They're my favorite melee weapons. Kitguns are similarly my favorite firearms.

These are the tools I use to accomplish the things you said you're having trouble with. Try them for yourself or do something different.

I see, just use ranged melee to fix all the problems with melee. Surely the Zaw will be more worth the time than the necramech was.

[The Big Brzezinski]

That or learn to move faster so you can keep up with spawns. High damage melee can certainly keep enemies suppressed, but you need to move like a hurricane. Not everybody has that kind of coordination.

[Puff]

Originally posted by The Big Brzezinski:

That or learn to move faster so you can keep up with spawns. High damage melee can certainly keep enemies suppressed, but you need to move like a hurricane. Not everybody has that kind of coordination.

That's the only way I've gotten to steel path with (almost) only melee. But there are actual broken mechanics of things when you only use melee.