Are there any games similar to Warframe and Destiny?

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I have played Warframe for many years, but I think I should leave the game (let it go). Within those years I found so many simple (and gimmicky), but fun weapons that I fell in love with. But in the current day, or the time they first came out (looking at you, Kuva MIGHTY SEER) they are underwhelming, because they didn't get proper stats that they deserve. Those weapons (with alternate firemodes, or that recieved Kuva and Tenet variants) will never get silver branches (Incarnons). Knowing current DE, they won't buff them in any way (they will be forever forgotten, or will become meme weapons). I want Warframe to be good, but I don't hope witnessing it any time soon (I don't hope that 1999 will trully be "the next era of Warframe").

Thats why I'm interested in the game that recieves weapon balance patches and developers that don't let extreme powercreep to happen.

Any suggestion would be welcome.

[Drago]

Tencent had made an in-house attempt called Synced by NeXT Studios; an internal division of the same part of the company that owns DE; but shut it down fairly recently due to not meeting engagement expectations. As others have mentioned The Last Descendant is considered similar to the point where some of their advertising even looks like slightly changed versions of Warframe's own advertising and uses similar terms for many of their resources or grind objectives. For some, the Division series was Ubisoft's attempt to have a similar Live Service type game, while Once Human, a more survival oriented game, is one for Netease.

As for the weapon side of the topic; I can agree that generally DE doesn't buff things all that much; but do nerf things on a regular basis according to whatever usage and popularity charts they are following or prioritizing number wise at a given time. If you like a gun, I guess try to encourage others not to use it all that often or don't play large amounts of time with your favored gear, switch around a lot to "game" the numbers. Unfortunately there isn't anything practical you can do besides having a varied arsenal geared to switch to whenever DE decides to nerf the current popular thing and push the a new hotness.

[DeAlph]

beware TFD is more grind than wf and destiny 2 .

[Drago]

引用自 DeAlph：

beware TFD is more grind than wf and destiny 2 .

I believe you.

[RedFaster]

引用自 DeAlph：

beware TFD is more grind than wf and destiny 2 .

The First Descendant really is a lot like the best design elements of Warframe and Destiny but with far worse QoL. I think people should try it just to understand what makes it kind of hateable.

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引用自 Jaynoble55：

Well, the Incarnons went a long way to buffing underpowered guns. But they stopped releasing them for some reason. What it is, is a adapter you earn through high level gameplay that buffs older weapons and gives them a new firing mode when enough charge is accumulated. The Torid Incarnon, Latron Incarnon and Dual Toxo Incarnon are some of the best weapons in the game and before incarnons, were some of the worst.

As I mentioned above, not every weapon that I like will receive Incarnon adapters, and I don't want them for some guns. For example, I don't like to use Torid Incarnon because that weapon turns Warframe's late Steel Path into Garry's mod. I appreciate balanced weapons, not OP. Some of the Prime, Non-faction, Kuva and Tenet guns suit my preferences, but not all of them got justice that they deserve (Kuva Quartakk and Tenet Flux Rifle, for example).

[Sceles]

None of the same quality.

D2 and TFD are designed to take your money and piss you off.

Helldivers 2 and Deep Rock Galactic are good but not as heavily focused on live service or gameplay variety and instead of some plot they have basically zero plot and only one hub area.

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引用自 Sceles：

None of the same quality.

D2 and TFD are designed to take your money and piss you off.

Helldivers 2 and Deep Rock Galactic are good but not as heavily focused on live service or gameplay variety and instead of some plot they have basically zero plot and only one hub area.

If I remember correctly, Helldivers 2 devs are constantly nerf good weapons instead of buffing the weaker ones, so I wasn't interested in it from the start.

[Simbah]

引用自 /70}|{4PHNK：

If I remember correctly, Helldivers 2 devs are constantly nerf good weapons instead of buffing the weaker ones, so I wasn't interested in it from the start.

This is the main reason why I haven't bought Helldivers 2. I WAS going to, but seeing the devs just making the game unfun is making me having second thoughts.

Deep Rock Galactic though, I've only seen universal praise from the playerbase. It has a progression system and an endgame from what I've known

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引用自 Simbah：

引用自 /70}|{4PHNK：

If I remember correctly, Helldivers 2 devs are constantly nerf good weapons instead of buffing the weaker ones, so I wasn't interested in it from the start.

This is the main reason why I haven't bought Helldivers 2. I WAS going to, but seeing the devs just making the game unfun is making me having second thoughts.

Deep Rock Galactic though, I've only seen universal praise from the playerbase. It has a progression system and an endgame from what I've known

Yeah, DRG looks very interesting. Will gve it a try in the future (bcz I have played L4D and L4D2 in the past).

[Sceles]

引用自 /70}|{4PHNK：

引用自 Sceles：

None of the same quality.

D2 and TFD are designed to take your money and piss you off.

Helldivers 2 and Deep Rock Galactic are good but not as heavily focused on live service or gameplay variety and instead of some plot they have basically zero plot and only one hub area.

If I remember correctly, Helldivers 2 devs are constantly nerf good weapons instead of buffing the weaker ones, so I wasn't interested in it from the start.

They're both buffing and nerfing but people only focus on nerfs which is ridiculous. Let's say they first buff something 30% nobody talks about it then they nerf it 10% and players act like it's the end of the world. HD2 community is honestly as awful as it can possibly be for a PvE game.

Its situation is actually very similar to Warframe in this regard. Both games have lots of players that only approve of buffs and never nerfs. Lots of people who don't understand why balance exists and why it's bad that one guy can take the fun away from others by using OP stuff that makes their efforts meaningless in comparison. Also both games have tons of people who don't want challenging content to exist because it ruins their power fantasy. There are people who enjoy challenging content and this power fantasy crowd wants to deny other people of their fun for their own enjoyment. I still remember when SP was added to WF, it was ridiculous how butthurt some players were.

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引用自 Sceles：

引用自 /70}|{4PHNK：

If I remember correctly, Helldivers 2 devs are constantly nerf good weapons instead of buffing the weaker ones, so I wasn't interested in it from the start.

They're both buffing and nerfing but people only focus on nerfs which is ridulous. Let's say they first buff something 30% nobody talks about it then they nerf it 10% and players act like it's the end of the world. HD2 community is honestly as awful as it can possibly be for a PvE game.

Maybe I was wrong about Helldivers 2. But it's not available in my country because of the PSN policy.

[rhoenix]

As a bit of an outside shot, I'll also mention Remnant 2.

It's much slower-paced than Warframe; it's more akin to a souls-like with guns. But the co-op is pretty good, the gameplay is fun, the locales are fun to explore, and there are lots of secrets to find.

[PhellAsleep]

There's also the Division 2 if you like a cover system over movement, but still want loot.

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引用自 rhoenix：

As a bit of an outside shot, I'll also mention Remnant 2.

It's much slower-paced than Warframe; it's more akin to a souls-like with guns. But the co-op is pretty good, the gameplay is fun, the locales are fun to explore, and there are lots of secrets to find.

Don't like souls-like games, but will look into it. Noted.

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引用自 PhellAsleep：

There's also the Division 2 if you like a cover system over movement, but still want loot.

The only games with cover system that I tolerated are Mass Effect and Vanquish. I'm more of a speedy shooter fan (DOOM, Quake, Half-Life, etc.).