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[Jibril]

cant close post :(

[ExcretumNecris]

Originally posted by Ittrix:

Originally posted by Wandering Flare:

Funnily enough the website market does regulate itself, the scam chat instead is essentially a space of people each shouting their own price, wildly ranging from each other but always being higher than the market average.

Ennhh... the market has the opposite problem of trade chat.
It's a global(ish) auction house where everyone can see each other's prices. You either list the cheapest to actually sell something, or you list for your own price and wait and pray.
Schtick is, unlike an auction house, people can just lie.
People have (and do) make accounts to claim they're selling at a low price, then swoop in and buy a bunch of that item when other players show up and try to list for the cheapest so they can actually sell something.
Trade chat is a seller's scamming market, sure. But warframe market can often be a buyer's scamming market.

The market is better, but it's not like the only reason to prefer trade chat is because you're a scammer.

That's why I never try to undersell the cheapest offer. I check prices individually and look at how easy or hard it is to obtain an item and compare between them.
I also adjust my prices dynamically (downward), if I sell at a "higher" price point and am not quick enough on the delivery, to my own standards.

[Terminal Desolation]

99% of the time trade chat is garbage

.9% of the time you can get something good for a decent price

.1% of the time you get something great for a steal

most of that last 1% is in relation to rivens, though, which is pretty much the only thing I use trade chat for at this point since Market is more reliable for almost everything else

[tv]

there are a lot of bots in trade chat. no human could repeat the same message for hours at time

[Ittrix]

Originally posted by ExcretumNecris:

Originally posted by Ittrix:

Ennhh... the market has the opposite problem of trade chat.
It's a global(ish) auction house where everyone can see each other's prices. You either list the cheapest to actually sell something, or you list for your own price and wait and pray.
Schtick is, unlike an auction house, people can just lie.
People have (and do) make accounts to claim they're selling at a low price, then swoop in and buy a bunch of that item when other players show up and try to list for the cheapest so they can actually sell something.
Trade chat is a seller's scamming market, sure. But warframe market can often be a buyer's scamming market.

The market is better, but it's not like the only reason to prefer trade chat is because you're a scammer.

That's why I never try to undersell the cheapest offer. I check prices individually and look at how easy or hard it is to obtain an item and compare between them.
I also adjust my prices dynamically (downward), if I sell at a "higher" price point and am not quick enough on the delivery, to my own standards.

While it's certainly a good habit, so long as enough other players aren't practicing it the fake price is gonna become the real price.

[ShatteredPumpkin]

mostly scammers use the trade chat

[Yemesis 凸ಠ益ಠ)凸]

Originally posted by -Diet-Mop-Water-:

Well you see... console players don't know about it.

basically this

[ThePunkPanther]

Originally posted by Jibril:

Prices are always crazy in trade chat. The only thing is use it for is aya and ducat trades. just wondering if anyone else feels like this

You can trade in Warframe? How?

[not interested in no access]

why are you posting in Trade Chat other than for memes and lulz?
all WTS offers WILL be considered spam unless / fish

[Ittrix]

Originally posted by ThePunkPanther:

Originally posted by Jibril:

Prices are always crazy in trade chat. The only thing is use it for is aya and ducat trades. just wondering if anyone else feels like this

You can trade in Warframe? How?

On the off chance you're not memeing, trading posts can be built in a dojo. At them, you can trade with anyone in your dojo.
People usually use warframe market (or trade chat) to find and agree on a trade, then head back to their dojo to actually do the trade.

You can also trade at Maroo's bazaar, but... nearly no one does that.

[Black Paisley]

For the same reason people who claim to hate the game keep coming back to the discussions.

They aren't smart.

[Azure]

95% of what i buy is from trade chat. The key is filters and patience. Its not a "scam" there are some people who want inflated prices but if your happy with the price you are choosing to buy it at then where is the "scam"?

[Sai]

Its simply that a lot of players are unaware of it.
The market site isn't endorsed by DE, so while it might seem pretty common to you, or me, or even a substantial group of people, we don't make up the vast majority of players, so sometimes trade chat will look like a ton of people simply don't know it exists.

[Wandering Flare]

Originally posted by Azure:

95% of what i buy is from trade chat. The key is filters and patience. Its not a "scam" there are some people who want inflated prices but if your happy with the price you are choosing to buy it at then where is the "scam"?

If you are happy to buy something for 50p when next door it's being sold for 15p, that's a scam against yourself.

Why waste time and patience when you can just load up the website and press 2 buttons for the best deal available at the time?

[Azure]

Originally posted by Wandering Flare:

If you are happy to buy something for 50p when next door it's being sold for 15p, that's a scam against yourself.

Still not a scam, unless you think everything is a scam unless your getting it for the least amount of currency which makes me wonder how you function in the real world.

[Razer]

Originally posted by Azure:

Originally posted by Wandering Flare:

If you are happy to buy something for 50p when next door it's being sold for 15p, that's a scam against yourself.

Still not a scam, unless you think everything is a scam unless your getting it for the least amount of currency which makes me wonder how you function in the real world.

It's a scam if people abuse limited knowledge on the buyers part to sell them something for far more than its worth.