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Burba Aug 20, 2024 @ 7:57am
Do I need to level up my operator?
My operator is a helpless baby. I only just got this ugly little arm laser thing today and it is garbage. If I ever spent any focus it was not much. I am also really really bad at using the operator.

How important is the operator in The New War quest? Should I level the operator up before this quest or does it matter?
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[Meyo]Frakura Aug 20, 2024 @ 8:12am 
Little spoiler but the game does give you a fighting edge in the early part of The New War. So you shouldn't worry too much, most if not all of the things in the quest isn't stat checking you.

However it does require you to do some maybe annoying stuff.
Demented_shade Aug 20, 2024 @ 8:24am 
You should probably level them up at some point, idk about new war but for eidolon hunts and a few other missions its important and upgraded operators can have very helpful abilities. Eidolon hunts are also great for leveling operator and getting some arcanes. I'd recommend zenurik if you just want one generally useful tree to upgrade for all builds.

Oh and the starter amp is much worse than about anything you could craft. So just getting a new amp will help alot anywhere you need to do damage with it.
Last edited by Demented_shade; Aug 20, 2024 @ 8:26am
romy Aug 20, 2024 @ 8:41am 
base amp is the worst, there are several amps you can craft and any of them is far more powerful than the starter amp.

each focus school has passive bonus to your operator and you can get them all at once.

I don't think you need anything for the quest, but maybe getting an amp would help a lot.
Egro Aug 20, 2024 @ 8:48am 
Just play the story quest, it will eventually give you a very decent arm lazer. :Corpus:
Overeagerdragon Aug 20, 2024 @ 8:51am 
Ofc the base amp is absolute garbage... you've prolly been playing nuke frames with, by now, 1000000's of mods to mix and match to make your nuke frame even nukier.... and now you unlocked operator which is a different system alltogether with its own equipment; you've basically started from scratch again.....

IF you did Duviri; the "pistol" drifter wields is actually an amp you can equip and will give you a decent power boost but all in all, even though operator has some niche usage, it's content that CAN be safely ignored if you're a casual player...

If you want to delve into it however... operator is a MUST for some content like Eidolon fights to farm arcanes and some of the focus trees have some neat functionalities. You can completely ignore some stuff using operator as well....

Basically operator is just another tool in your toolbox for you to use
Burba Aug 20, 2024 @ 8:51am 
Originally posted by Egro:
Just play the story quest, it will eventually give you a very decent arm lazer. :Corpus:
What story quest? I have New War unlocked right now.
Burba Aug 20, 2024 @ 8:56am 
Originally posted by Overeagerdragon:
Ofc the base amp is absolute garbage... you've prolly been playing nuke frames with, by now, 1000000's of mods to mix and match to make your nuke frame even nukier.... and now you unlocked operator which is a different system alltogether with its own equipment; you've basically started from scratch again.....

IF you did Duviri; the "pistol" drifter wields is actually an amp you can equip and will give you a decent power boost but all in all, even though operator has some niche usage, it's content that CAN be safely ignored if you're a casual player...

If you want to delve into it however... operator is a MUST for some content like Eidolon fights to farm arcanes and some of the focus trees have some neat functionalities. You can completely ignore some stuff using operator as well....

Basically operator is just another tool in your toolbox for you to use
I played Duviri for an hour got bored and quit. But that is probably more fun than grinding what ever rep I need for the better arm laser.
Overeagerdragon Aug 20, 2024 @ 9:19am 
Originally posted by Burba:
Originally posted by Overeagerdragon:
Ofc the base amp is absolute garbage... you've prolly been playing nuke frames with, by now, 1000000's of mods to mix and match to make your nuke frame even nukier.... and now you unlocked operator which is a different system alltogether with its own equipment; you've basically started from scratch again.....

IF you did Duviri; the "pistol" drifter wields is actually an amp you can equip and will give you a decent power boost but all in all, even though operator has some niche usage, it's content that CAN be safely ignored if you're a casual player...

If you want to delve into it however... operator is a MUST for some content like Eidolon fights to farm arcanes and some of the focus trees have some neat functionalities. You can completely ignore some stuff using operator as well....

Basically operator is just another tool in your toolbox for you to use
I played Duviri for an hour got bored and quit. But that is probably more fun than grinding what ever rep I need for the better arm laser.

I can assure you that IS the case... so unless you want to delve into it then just use Drifters amp and you'll be fine.... focus lenses are relatively cheap from various factions so with enough play you'll level up the focus schools without ever having to touch operator even once and some of those schools DO have passives that affect your frame too.

The only reason why you would want a better amp is MAYBE to do solo eidolon hunts... MAYBE to have a easier time farming a frame like Voruna (because you can 1HKO the sentients/Thrax) OR use it as a crutch to cheeze SP Circuit with for easy Incarnons...
I won't deny it has some uses when you fubar and end up in a mission where your enemy is decked out to directly resist your own loadout (so again; crutch to cheese) but yeah... operator is a bit of a forgotten system from the early days....

However I won't deny, either, that a decently decked out operator can become a VERY handy tool to have either
XianE Aug 20, 2024 @ 9:43am 
As others have said, I'd say its definitely a plus and when used well Operator can be a lifeline as it has a self-revive passive via killing enemies. Not to mention later a particular type of mini-boss enemy will require using that form but trying to stay vague to not spoil as that's a later thing.
Last edited by XianE; Aug 20, 2024 @ 4:57pm
rhoenix Aug 20, 2024 @ 9:49am 
It's entirely up to you, and what you find fun.

Me, I saw people going after the Eidolons like they were big game, and I pushed myself into hunting them solo. Along the way, it gave me gigantic boosts to focus, and much better amps.

That might be a good way for you to approach it, as you'll accomplish several things at the same time - leveling up with Quills, getting a better amp, and boosting your Focus pretty impressively with the drops you get from Gary and Harry.

Terry (the Teralyst) doesn't drop them, but he is still a good early source of things while you work your way up to Gary (Gantulyst) and Harry (Hydrolyst).

The Last Gasp ability from Unairu allows you to revive yourself if your frame goes down, but only if your Operator is armed with a good amp, since you have to get kills with it to revive your Warframe. However, with Operator Arcanes and a good amp, your Operator can be pretty strong, and useful too.
BEEP! Aug 20, 2024 @ 4:30pm 
You don't need to worry at all.
My AMP, Nechromech & Railjack none if them were modded nor past lvl 5 in fact I basically never touched any of that content maybe just the very first mission when you unlock them & the quest was super easy.
Even my Operator had no damage boost he was basically just there to give extra energy to my warframe.
Last edited by BEEP!; Aug 20, 2024 @ 4:31pm
No, you don't have to but you should. They add some amazing benefits beyond what warframes can do alone.
BEEP! Aug 20, 2024 @ 4:57pm 
Originally posted by Douchebag Extraordinaire:
No, you don't have to but you should. They add some amazing benefits beyond what warframes can do alone.
I never liked the appearance of my operator so I never used them until just a week ago when I came back from my 5year break & I learned about the Drifter the guy looks awesome I made him look like Keanu Reeves & I constantly use them.
Drago Aug 20, 2024 @ 8:32pm 
It would be useful to rank up their focus abilities, amp, and such. The Tenno can be pretty useful in some situations and is sorta needed for at least some activities so its nice to have one that is either more extra utility abilites or more survival stats. The Shwaak and Sharksun are decent parts, you can use them with a Lohrin Brace can handle many threats though being short ranged is an issue at times. Vituas Arcanes will boost the amp even more in some situations. This would take a bit of killing Eidolons, Vomvalysts, and such while turning in their cores to Quill Onkko of Cetus.

Magus Arcanes can be obtained similarly. These will either pump your Tenno's life and armor as easier offerings or make it so they heal your warframe when you go Tenno; unleash elemental damages, or restore warframe energy for example. You should give them a look-see before figuring which ones you might want to hunt for to save time and resources spent on grind.

Quill Onkko isn't the only source of these kinds of upgrades. Quill Onkko has arranged for Little Duck of Fortuna (in the Vox Solaris backroom) to offer similar amp upgrades and Tenno upgrades but instead requires Toroids of various types you can find in areas around Orb Vallis as either randomly spawned pickups (think syndicate medals) or as random rare drops from enemies in one of three locations; the Research Labs, Temple of Profit, and Spaceport. Same deal overall unlock the ranks and then buy the parts or arcane upgrades you need. Deimos also has a few in the Deep Isolation Vault side missions though some of them are more situational.

There are also websites that might help plan out your amp if you decide on making and ranking them up (they can be gilded and although they don't use mods so far, they can use those Virtuos Arcanes and have a Focus Lens equipped to make sure Tenno kill affinity isn't lost) and give Mastery Rank for maxing them based on main firing part.

https://semlar.com/ampcalc/223

Should be on the Amp tab with the amp I described earlier selected.
dragoon62q Aug 20, 2024 @ 9:50pm 
If I were you i'd just level up my operator in hydron just to be on the safe side
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