The Face of Digital Extremes

[归墟乘客]

Common reasons for unreasonable blocking
1. When playing, the game crashes, flashes, and is permanently blocked because of the game's own causes.
2. When you encounter malicious players in the game, malicious actors will assemble a large number of accounts to report unwarranted crimes on your account, such as offline trading or permanent blocking of your account.
3. Play accidentally encountered a long-standing BUG, the official several years have not repaired the kind of BUG, if you are reported, permanent seal.
4. In-game survival mode plays for more than 40 minutes, and if a teammate reports that your account has been inactive for too long, you can permanently suspend it.
5. Criticize some of the official's bad behavior within the game and permanently ban it.
6. Change of IP address due to travel or moving may result in a ban.
7. If you never commit any violations, the authorities will still permanently ban your account, attach an unwarranted charge to your account, and the authorities won't provide you with any evidence of banning your account, commonly such as back-office software, hang-up, offline transactions, and account transactions ......
8. Live game gives gifts and keeps the game blocked.
9. Creator of this game, permanently suspended. The reason this game doesn't gain popularity is because the authorities permanently suspend the accounts of UP accounts with tens of thousands of followers and charge them with unwarranted offenses. These UP accounts often play for more than 10,000 hours. What is 10,000 hours? That is, if you play eight hours a day, you need to play the game for almost three years and six months, which means the authorities can deprive players of years of time.

This is a game that the game company will block at will, and the game company won't provide any evidence of blocking. The game company: This is our company's data and we are under no obligation to provide you with any data.

If you have more than 1,000 hours of in-game gameplay, which is about 2,000 hours of Steam gameplay, then your account will be flagged as a priority by the official gaming company. If your account doesn't have any violations, If you are maliciously reported by multiple players, the authorities will permanently block your account and cannot unblock it. The authorities will not provide any evidence of the block.

These are all situations that can lead to a blocked password. Be sure to take care to avoid these situations when playing this game. Nor can it happen once, because there is no time limit for the game company's blocking of your account. Even if you were an accident 2 years ago, the game company will permanently block your account for this reason 2 years or more later. Short for: Autumn accounts, indefinite accountability.

It can also be seen as a collection game, because the nature of the game has also led to some bad behavior by the authorities, and the game has very few old players, such as legendary slots. Players in the Legends segment have basically owned more than 80% of the game equipment and props, and the desire to spend is reduced relative to the earlier part of the game, so the authorities will ban the higher segment accounts at their own will, stimulate players to reopen new accounts to play in order to stimulate the players to increase their spending.

[maeharaprojekt]

İlk olarak Drago tarafından gönderildi:

İlk olarak maeharaprojekt tarafından gönderildi:

First, a cursory glance at OP's profile strongly suggests that they are a citizen of China.

Why is OP is making wild accusations against DE rather than WeGame, the company that actually manages Warframe China for PC players in China?

Are there no support channels and forums that are specifically for Chinese players; methods of communication that WeGame would normally be monitoring and thru which OP would get replies?

That is fair considering their account as you said. WeGame is just a smaller branch of Tencent which is also the complete owner of Digital Extremes. Tencent at least a while back decided to merge the handling of a lot of the Warframe related deals together after completing the full acquisition so you likely see more Chinese Tenno here, or on the main forums since Tencent acquired the original Chinese exclusive version - Star Armor - and decided that the two versions would be one maintained by DE and then locally handled by the WeGames branch for those distributions. Couldn't say if Tencent has different Warframe specific support but they do have their own WeGames and other subdivisions ones. In this case, on Steam its likely they would be handled by DE Support.

I do wonder if perhaps there are less sinister reasons that their account could have had issues. While most of what they are stating can happen; in my experience its not common to have mass reports get players banned. That could be different in their experience. I do recall some attempts happening, particularly when folk were doing Conclave as clans or friends and there were accusations of "boosting" and that being considered an exploit but generally I would think this isn't common. Possible, but not common. DE does do bans on some subjects like Nezha for example and even other Tencent subsidiaries and investments do the same for real world figures like dissent towards Xi Jinping being disrespected. One reason that I have seen happen a bit is when return veteran players come back from a long break; DE support has been known to lock down their accounts to avoid folk guessing the passwords or such when the owner is away. Contacting support with proof of ownership is often enough to reactivate the account in those situations.

Please correct misunderstanding on my part - I thought issues of Internet crime, fraud, and ID theft related to Star/Galactic Armor would handled by WeGame, with support from the Central People's Government - Ministry of Public Safety for particularly egregious incidents (presumably for the PRC's equivalent to felony crime).

Can DE actually *do* anything for or to Chinese players who play Star Armor? I can't imagine that Global Affairs Canada was able to negotiate with the PRC's Ministry of Foreign Affairs, on DE's behalf, to that extent.

[rhoenix]

İlk olarak 归墟乘客 tarafından gönderildi:

Sometimes the translation software doesn't translate accurately. Please understand

No problem. Languages are all tricky things, and not all direct translations make sense - even with today's technology.

I have seen people get banned (blocked) for bad behavior in chat, or for using external programs with Warframe, but I have not seen the other examples you named.

As others mentioned, it may be a factor of who coordinates Warframe for where you live. If this is another entity apart from DE, then that becomes another factor with these things.

[归墟乘客]

İlk olarak maeharaprojekt tarafından gönderildi:

İlk olarak Drago tarafından gönderildi:

That is fair considering their account as you said. WeGame is just a smaller branch of Tencent which is also the complete owner of Digital Extremes. Tencent at least a while back decided to merge the handling of a lot of the Warframe related deals together after completing the full acquisition so you likely see more Chinese Tenno here, or on the main forums since Tencent acquired the original Chinese exclusive version - Star Armor - and decided that the two versions would be one maintained by DE and then locally handled by the WeGames branch for those distributions. Couldn't say if Tencent has different Warframe specific support but they do have their own WeGames and other subdivisions ones. In this case, on Steam its likely they would be handled by DE Support.

I do wonder if perhaps there are less sinister reasons that their account could have had issues. While most of what they are stating can happen; in my experience its not common to have mass reports get players banned. That could be different in their experience. I do recall some attempts happening, particularly when folk were doing Conclave as clans or friends and there were accusations of "boosting" and that being considered an exploit but generally I would think this isn't common. Possible, but not common. DE does do bans on some subjects like Nezha for example and even other Tencent subsidiaries and investments do the same for real world figures like dissent towards Xi Jinping being disrespected. One reason that I have seen happen a bit is when return veteran players come back from a long break; DE support has been known to lock down their accounts to avoid folk guessing the passwords or such when the owner is away. Contacting support with proof of ownership is often enough to reactivate the account in those situations.

Please correct misunderstanding on my part - I thought issues of Internet crime, fraud, and ID theft related to Star/Galactic Armor would handled by WeGame, with support from the Central People's Government - Ministry of Public Safety for particularly egregious incidents (presumably for the PRC's equivalent to felony crime).

Can DE actually *do* anything for or to Chinese players who play Star Armor? I can't imagine that Global Affairs Canada was able to negotiate with the PRC's Ministry of Foreign Affairs, on DE's behalf, to that extent.

Chinese law can only bind domestic companies, not foreign companies

[归墟乘客]

If my appeal for my international account fails, I will have no choice but to switch to the domestic server and start building my account from scratch, though I will continue to appeal.If my appeal for my international account fails, I will have no choice but to switch to the domestic server and start building my account from scratch, though I will continue to appeal.

[Drago]

İlk olarak maeharaprojekt tarafından gönderildi:

İlk olarak Drago tarafından gönderildi:

That is fair considering their account as you said. WeGame is just a smaller branch of Tencent which is also the complete owner of Digital Extremes. Tencent at least a while back decided to merge the handling of a lot of the Warframe related deals together after completing the full acquisition so you likely see more Chinese Tenno here, or on the main forums since Tencent acquired the original Chinese exclusive version - Star Armor - and decided that the two versions would be one maintained by DE and then locally handled by the WeGames branch for those distributions. Couldn't say if Tencent has different Warframe specific support but they do have their own WeGames and other subdivisions ones. In this case, on Steam its likely they would be handled by DE Support.

I do wonder if perhaps there are less sinister reasons that their account could have had issues. While most of what they are stating can happen; in my experience its not common to have mass reports get players banned. That could be different in their experience. I do recall some attempts happening, particularly when folk were doing Conclave as clans or friends and there were accusations of "boosting" and that being considered an exploit but generally I would think this isn't common. Possible, but not common. DE does do bans on some subjects like Nezha for example and even other Tencent subsidiaries and investments do the same for real world figures like dissent towards Xi Jinping being disrespected. One reason that I have seen happen a bit is when return veteran players come back from a long break; DE support has been known to lock down their accounts to avoid folk guessing the passwords or such when the owner is away. Contacting support with proof of ownership is often enough to reactivate the account in those situations.

Please correct misunderstanding on my part - I thought issues of Internet crime, fraud, and ID theft related to Star/Galactic Armor would handled by WeGame, with support from the Central People's Government - Ministry of Public Safety for particularly egregious incidents (presumably for the PRC's equivalent to felony crime).

Can DE actually *do* anything for or to Chinese players who play Star Armor? I can't imagine that Global Affairs Canada was able to negotiate with the PRC's Ministry of Foreign Affairs, on DE's behalf, to that extent.

First, from the post there are no legal woes mentioned here. These would be civil as in a disagreement between two citizens (in this case DE is pretending to be a citizen as a whole to how corporations tend to be handled) WeGames is a gaming platform company of Tencent (think like Steam for Valve. Tencent itself owns DE through its complete ownership of Leyou and Tencent has the new version of Star Armor on WeGame then handling distribution in mainland China as part of their division. This subject seems to be about the international version whose support is handled by DE and then if there is a legal issue would eventually go back to the parent company and handled by them ultimately.

Crime would be handled by legal, which in China would be handled by Tencent through their WeGame Division talking to the authorities. This is a Warframe game issue which would be handled by DE Support which if it was proven to be a bad faith use of the account, the account would be locked and if the user was in China, their information would be forwarded to the parent company who would do with that as they would. For international players, that information would likely still be forwarded to Tencent of course; they are the parent company and China law has repeatedly stated that just because something happens outside of mainland China doesn't mean it doesn't still break or need to follow Chinese law.

If DE's internal legal specialists determined it was needed, they would forward the information to their local legal authorities and likely press charges in whatever district they could to press charges against the user. This was seen in action under Leyou when DE went after that kid that was doing data mining for example even though data mining was not actually illegal under the federal law that the legal minor was operating under and breaking the lines of the EULA a civil matter between DE and the user in most cases. Hope that helps.

[maeharaprojekt]

İlk olarak Drago tarafından gönderildi:

İlk olarak maeharaprojekt tarafından gönderildi:

Please correct misunderstanding on my part - I thought issues of Internet crime, fraud, and ID theft related to Star/Galactic Armor would handled by WeGame, with support from the Central People's Government - Ministry of Public Safety for particularly egregious incidents (presumably for the PRC's equivalent to felony crime).

Can DE actually *do* anything for or to Chinese players who play Star Armor? I can't imagine that Global Affairs Canada was able to negotiate with the PRC's Ministry of Foreign Affairs, on DE's behalf, to that extent.

First, from the post there are no legal woes mentioned here. These would be civil as in a disagreement between two citizens (in this case DE is pretending to be a citizen as a whole to how corporations tend to be handled) WeGames is a gaming platform company of Tencent (think like Steam for Valve. Tencent itself owns DE through its complete ownership of Leyou and Tencent has the new version of Star Armor on WeGame then handling distribution in mainland China as part of their division. This subject seems to be about the international version whose support is handled by DE and then if there is a legal issue would eventually go back to the parent company and handled by them ultimately.

Crime would be handled by legal, which in China would be handled by Tencent through their WeGame Division talking to the authorities. This is a Warframe game issue which would be handled by DE Support which if it was proven to be a bad faith use of the account, the account would be locked and if the user was in China, their information would be forwarded to the parent company who would do with that as they would. For international players, that information would likely still be forwarded to Tencent of course; they are the parent company and China law has repeatedly stated that just because something happens outside of mainland China doesn't mean it doesn't still break or need to follow Chinese law.

If DE's internal legal specialists determined it was needed, they would forward the information to their local legal authorities and likely press charges in whatever district they could to press charges against the user. This was seen in action under Leyou when DE went after that kid that was doing data mining for example even though data mining was not actually illegal under the federal law that the legal minor was operating under and breaking the lines of the EULA a civil matter between DE and the user in most cases. Hope that helps.

That does help. OP also came back to state that they've been playing OG Warframe and not Star Armor; I am less confuzzled now.

[player7112]

There is no need to repeat the terms here since it's already written in the official website.

You violated the terms? you get punished.
Even if you were innocent, they can still ban you because they can, it's written in the terms.

Read the terms and try to understand it.
https://www.warframe.com/terms

If you can't accept the term, uninstall the game and move on.

[VeraelHasta]

I got banned exactly once in Warframe. It was when I was away for like 3 years.
After I got back into the game, I went to talk to support, they said it was due to suspicious login activity - and unbanned me right away.
I think I used a similar password to other games and this password got leaked. Probably bots tried to login to my WF account because of that.

There is exactly 0 reason for a game company to try to ban very old players for no real reason. Most of them won't be playing again, and will become a negative voice in the community for the rest of their lives.

[Incunabulum]

İlk olarak ChubbNutt tarafından gönderildi:

So you are saying that people are getting banned because of mass reports done in a malicious way and that the devs are banning veteran players to get them to make new accounts to spend more money? Is that right?

Do you have any proof or is this just a bunch of BS you made up because you got banned?

I've been playing this game off-and-on since 2013 - no blocks or bans. This is all stuff people who misbehave post in order to try to get people mad at the company for banning them for their bad behavior.

Don't get me wrong - DE has some stupid policies (ie, 'trap' bans) but if *I* can play the game without dropping slurs, AFK-leeching, etc, then they're not overly-sensitive to what players are doing.

[[DE] Juice]

Hi Tenno. If you would like to discuss a ban with DE, you'll need to reach out to support at https://support.warframe.com/ .

Locking this post as it goes against our Steam Warframe Discussion Forums rules found here: https://steamcommunity.com/app/230410/discussions/0/4627984302694116519/