Limbo vs Nullfier on Steel Path

[Azor]

Kind of annoying seeing my Cataclysm pop instantly out of nowhere and have my warframe imediately get out of Rift, leaving me vulnerable, because some Nullifier touched bubble for 0.00001s. Shield gating is the only thing saving my boy from being one shot after that.

So I'm thinking, against corpus, to leave Cataclysm at 100% range or less. Cataclysm at feet, get out of bubble, press 1 to banish, dash back towards bubble, rift surge, blast them? That is, W -> 1 -> S+Shift -> 3 -> Shoot? But then, that Nullifier won't get hit by Banish so I'd have to leave the Rift plane, leaving me vulnerable to non rifted enemies. So I have 3s (rolling guard) + 2,5s (shield gating) to kill the nullifier before he ruins everything?

Do you have any other ideas? Am I missing something?

It's easier to spam Avalanche w/ Icy Avalanche augment for infinite Overguard and invulnerabilty, or play any other Warframe vs Corpus for that matter, but I like Limbo's style

[Primus]

Whenever I'm playing against Corpus as Limbo, which I honestly avoid in the first place, I take a Miter as primary. The Steel Meridian augment for it gives you a 90% chance to permanently pop nullifier bubbles on hit.
For damage, I always run either a Glaive or Zaw with Exodia Contagion. If you're running the Rift Torrent augment for his 3 (which you should be, unless you're trying to speedrun missions and avoid hordes), those weapons double-dip the damage buff, letting you cut through 95% of enemies with ease.
Take an epitasth/nukor with augur mods for shieldgating and the additional damage through priming if needed.
Lastly, as you mentioned, Rolling Guard! Must-have on Limbo, no point to not have it with how well it suits his dimension-hopping. With Rolling Guard and shield gate, you have more than enough time to pop any nearby nullifiers with your Miter, before retreating back into your Rift.
You don't need any damage stats on the Miter, just slap on the Augment and as many fire rate mods as you can and you're good to go. I didn't even have it at max rank for most of the time I used it.

I do the same on Gara. I build her around her infinite scaling on her 2, which nullifiers instantly drain with a single touch. I have an Ack&Brunt with a Riven as a statstick to stack my 2 a lot quicker, so I don't need to rely on weapons at all. Just take a Miter and any Corpus missions become a million times more laid back.

[Azor]

Thanks for the tips. Time to daily grind Steel Meridian reputation and forma my Xoris (which is pretty good already but it's missing some mods + arcanes for longer runs) since I'll not be using my primary for damage. Will take some time, but I got time and patience.

Do you have any tips regarding subsumable abilities for Limbo, also?

[Heartbreak One]

Originally posted by Azor:

Do you have any tips regarding subsumable abilities for Limbo, also?

I'm no authority on Limbo - I used to main him back when Stasis actually froze projectiles too, and even then, I was kinda crap at using him (I still don't really get how Rift Surge works, for example...) but-

Pull can offer some decent utility for yanking enemies into your Cataclysm bubble. Standard good subsumes also apply, Limbo's amazing energy economy can play nice with Gloom, however the slow does mean less enemies will run into your bubble. Nidus' Larvae (the tentacle ball thing), as well as Khora's grouping ability can be nice.

Rift Surge's augment generally makes the basic +damage subsumes a little bit wasteful, since the augment scales pretty high with only a few enemies in the rift. But still, they are more consistent, so YMMV

If you're actually making use of all his kit, however, then a subsume might not be needed.

If you want a bootleg way of dealing with Nullifier bubbles, I used to bring a Grakata for basically just that - the high firerate collapses bubbles quick, although not permanently like the Miter augment does. Something like the Baza would do the trick too. I do wish they'd change it to be a little more lenient, like shrinking the bubble or something as opposed to it just popping, but wahey.

[KitKat]

Another tip for Limbo is... You don't have to be inside the Catclysm dome yourself.

You can use Cataclysm to create a "kill-zone" somewhere, with stasis obviously... But you yourself don't have to go inside this dome, inside the kill-zone. While in the rift(Limbo's passive, his dodge into the rift mechanic), you can shoot into the dome, at the enemies inside of it, while you yourself stay outside of it. That way IF a Nullifier comes in and pops that dome... You are still safe in the rift, away from the popped dome.

That's a more safe/smart way to play Limbo, so building him for max range is only a good idea when you need to AOE-pop some containers (for looting purposes). Otherwise, tone down on that range(100%+ numbers, but not crazy 200%+ or something) and instead bring duration to keep the dome from shrinking too fast. Plus duration will help your stasis to last longer, obviously.

As for fast way of dealing with Nullies... Just shoot the drone that hovers above and creates the nullifying bubble. Miter surely is an option, but WHY waste primary weapon slot for a "utility" gun, if you can use your actual normal damaging gun to pop the drone that creates the bubble? ANY gun will do, literally ANY gun, since that drone has like 10HP or something even on SP(it does not scale with lvl or SP modifiers at all). And thanks to Rolling Guard, you can roll out of the rift, have 3sec i-frame to aim well, pop the drone and roll back into the rift, into safety. That's literally it. He won't spawn another drone. And you can pop a Cataclysm dome on now unprotected nullifier dude and kill him - all while STILL staying outisde of the Cataclysm dome yourself, of course.

[Heartbreak One]

Originally posted by KitKat:

As for fast way of dealing with Nullies... Just shoot the drone that hovers above and creates the nullifying bubble.

Yeah, that's true!

The only thing here is some tile-sets, like anything with doorways, mean it can be hard to get a clean shot on the drone. I've also found it pretty fiddly sometimes when I'm using semi-auto weapons and the like. I had a bit of a nightmare when I had the Dual Toxocysts as my only guns, and couldn't get a clean shot on the drone, and the bubble stopped me proc'ing the DT's frenzy - turned into kind of a mess!

I've never used the augment myself, but I totally get why someone would want to use it. If your secondary and melee is killing stuff, using a weapon slot to remove an attention-sink like nullifier bubbles can be a pretty good deal.

[KitKat]

Originally posted by Heartbreak One:

The only thing here is some tile-sets, like anything with doorways, mean it can be hard to get a clean shot on the drone.

That's why you have your trusty Rift, where you're safe from everything (except Eximus). And Rolling guard, for that 3-sec i-frame. You know? :D Wait for the right moment, move away from the doorway yourself to force the nullifier to follow you away from it. It's not like you should be in panic when you see a nullifier... Again, you're safe in the rift. Just wait for the right moment.

OR BETTER YET...

Operator. Hop out, pew pew at the drone, done. Even if operator dies - Limbo is safe in the rift still. You know?

Using Miter "just to pop a nully bubble" is a waste of a primary weapon slot.

[Heartbreak One]

Originally posted by KitKat:

That's why you have your trusty Rift, where you're safe from everything (except Eximus). And Rolling guard, for that 3-sec i-frame. You know? :D Wait for the right moment, move away from the doorway yourself to force the nullifier to follow you away from it. It's not like you should be in panic when you see a nullifier... Again, you're safe in the rift. Just wait for the right moment.

OR BETTER YET...

Operator. Hop out, pew pew at the drone, done. Even if operator dies - Limbo is safe in the rift still. You know?

Using Miter "just to pop a nully bubble" is a waste of a primary weapon slot.

No, of course, I'm not disagreeing with you here - like I said, I've never used the augment, myself, just explaining why someone might want to!

I think you and I are just going to have to agree to disagree here - but that's one of the cool things about Warframe, I suppose. Lots of flexibility with how to deal with a problem. Besides, OP's got like, 4-5 different ways of dealing with Nullifiers now, hopefully one works well for them. :)

[Azor]

I tried destroying the Nullifying drone as Drifter. Elevation and geometry can make it hard but it's definetly doable. As for wasting a primary slot for a anti-nullifier miter, there are some pretty good secondary and melee dps weapons so I want to try it. Besides, I'll be using an weird weapon which is cool.

[Firefrye]

Miter incarnon is plenty strong to justify running it by itself. The syndicate mod adds a minor AoE/status proc (sadly it is BLAST damage and a health heal, so that's less useful than some others that give energy/shields or a better status) and utility vs Nulifiers.