Dakra Prime - Why is it so good?

[NotApplicable]

I'm seriously disappointed. :( I've potatoed it and ... got this setup:

Pressure Point, Fever Strike, Shocking Touch, Fury, Spoiled Strike, Molten Impact, North Wind, Rending Strike (all maxed of course, giving 288 blast, 288 corrosive, and 245 slash)

On paper, it's amazing, with very high damage, showing wall attack as a touch over 3.5k, and with Crimson Dervish apparently multiplying that by 3... however, ... level 25 Heavy Gunner in Void T4 survival goes down in 2 hits, sometimes 3... what gives? My potatoed Zorens maul these guys so fast. Hell, I believe even my Soma would have 1 hit that HG with a headshot.

Am I missing something, here? How have you built your Dakra Prime?

[Skeelton The Skeleton]

I'm not a Dakra Prime lover, but I am a fan. And I find the weapon viable for high tier missions, not as much as the Scindo Prime, but still works. My build for the voids is the following: Killing Blow, Fever Strike, Focus Energy, Fury, Pressure Point, Corrupt Charge, Voltaic Strike, and Buzz Kill. I'm also using Crimson Dervish as my stance. And I find it works just fine for me.
EDIT: I also find that people over look channeling builds and mods in general because it doesn't boost the stats in the arsenal, but so long as you have the energy to channel you'll always be doing great damage.

And if you're using the blast set up for the voids it will give you negitive multipliers against ferrite armor units. I'd take that off and build more into corrosive and cold/fire.

[NotApplicable]

Aaaaah, that explains it. Hopefully. I'll get rid of blast. Thank you.

I don't have Corrupt Charge, Voltaic Strike, and Buzz Kill. Or Focus Energy. OR Killing Blow. Never even heard of them. I'm guessing they're all channeling mods. xD

Given how often I use energy and like to have something there (plus, energy suckers) I avoid channeling, but I can see it's charm and do find it intriguing.

[Watermelons]

Messaggio originale di Unbekannter:

Aaaaah, that explains it. Hopefully. I'll get rid of blast. Thank you.

I don't have Corrupt Charge, Voltaic Strike, and Buzz Kill. Or Focus Energy. OR Killing Blow. Never even heard of them. I'm guessing they're all channeling mods. xD

Given how often I use energy and like to have something there (plus, energy suckers) I avoid channeling, but I can see it's charm and do find it intriguing.

Unfortunately Voltaic Strike and Buzz kill aren't obtainable atm since they were Event Rewards. In place of Voltaic Strike, for the cost of 4 more mods slots, a Shocking Touch will do; they do the same amount of damage, just that Voltaic Strike adds 60% status.

In place of Buzz Kill, you can use Jagged Edge, though it is very rare. It drops for Corpus Elite Crewmen, the blue dudes with Flux Rifles.

As for Focus Energy, you can get that from Nightmare missions. I suggest doing a low level Earth Exterminate whenever they show up. Focus Energy is pretty common out of the nightmare mods, so you should get one quick.

Corrupt Charge comes from the Derelict Void vaults, though it is a bit rarer than some other Corrupted mods.

Killing Blow just an uncommon mod, comes from Seekers, Lech Kril on Ceres, Kela De Thaym on Sedna, Phorid on infestation assassinations, and Vay Hek.

[Watermelons]

As for my build, it's right here. Works like a charm and carries into 40-60 minute long T4 Survival runs very well. Same for 30+ waves on T4D.
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=356424447
As I said, you could replace Voltaic Strike with Shocking Touch, and I guess Buzz Kill with Rending Strike to keep some Slash damage. Virulent Scourge drops from Corrupted Vor on any T4 mission.

PS How are you getting yours to say 3.5k on wall attacks?

[NotApplicable]

Oh wow, ... so that's just the way it is. 'o.O I was getting a lot more damage than that (I told you the mods and stuff, so that should tell you how I did it, ... 'though blast was on it) and it wasn't really as great as I'd imagine from a Dakra Prime. But, I'll keep at it a while longer before giving up and going back to my speedy Zorens. Saw one person online saying he is/was 1-hitting things up to level 50-60, I just find that hard to believe, unless it was the old melee.

Anywho, I took off blast and will test it properly tomorrow on the same sorta level T4 enemies.

[Watermelons]

Messaggio originale di Unbekannter:

Oh wow, ... so that's just the way it is. 'o.O I was getting a lot more damage than that (I told you the mods and stuff, so that should tell you how I did it, ... 'though blast was on it) and it wasn't really as great as I'd imagine from a Dakra Prime. But, I'll keep at it a while longer before giving up and going back to my speedy Zorens. Saw one person online saying he is/was 1-hitting things up to level 50-60, I just find that hard to believe, unless it was the old melee.

Anywho, I took off blast and will test it properly tomorrow on the same sorta level T4 enemies.

Well level 40-60 is about where they are at 45-55 minutes of T4S. Good luck, all the same.

[Tealtyr]

Messaggio originale di Unbekannter:

Oh wow, ... so that's just the way it is. 'o.O I was getting a lot more damage than that (I told you the mods and stuff, so that should tell you how I did it, ... 'though blast was on it) and it wasn't really as great as I'd imagine from a Dakra Prime. But, I'll keep at it a while longer before giving up and going back to my speedy Zorens. Saw one person online saying he is/was 1-hitting things up to level 50-60, I just find that hard to believe, unless it was the old melee.

Anywho, I took off blast and will test it properly tomorrow on the same sorta level T4 enemies.

With crimson dervish, one-shotting isn't far fetched.

[madddoggx]

some interesting builds on here
http://warframe-builder.com/Melee_Weapons/Builder/Dakra_prime/t_30_230000002_226-7-5-234-0-3-238-3-3-240-6-3-241-2-5-244-4-5-245-1-5-247-5-5-307-8-3_234-5-245-6-241-11-238-7-244-9-247-9-240-7-226-9-307-10/en/4-0-12/25722/0

[NotApplicable]

Well, I got rid of blast, left cold as was recommend by someone else, went up against level 30 Void enemies again, ... still crap. I just really doubt this Dervish thing is working, because if it were, I would probably be one-hitting everything for quite a while... is there some sorta special combo I'm meant to do? I've been trying it with the sword equipped, as I know taht's when the stance is active.

[Vulbjorn]

I see Spoiled Strike everywhere. Take it out, it lowers the speed and DPS 9/10 times. Also, I can't believe nobody pointed out that Dakra is, in fact, a critical weapon .
Take a look at this.
http://warframe-builder.com/Melee_Weapons/Builder/Dakra_prime/t_30_230000002_224-6-5-226-2-5-239-5-5-241-1-5-244-4-5-245-3-5-247-0-5-307-8-3-360-7-5_247-5-241-6-226-9-245-11-244-9-239-9-224-9-360-11-307-10/en/4-0-12/
And now, to add to this, installed Crimson Dervish gives you x4 damage on each strike, if weapon is unsheathed.
Now transfer this build to... mmm, let's say, Dual Zoren. Granted, burst DPS is lower and Dakra is slightly slower (very slightly), but it also does x4 of that damage that is stated in the build. So it's slower then Zoren, but hits harder. And Zoren/Ichors are considered one of the best melee weapons in the game.

[NotApplicable]

A slow (at least iwth Dervish, IMO) crit weapon with just 15% base? lol This I gotta see... *clicks* 24%? No, ... maybe if that were the base %, but nope. I prefer more consistent damage than that. At least 75% crit chance. And 1.5 multiplier isn't a great start for a crit weapon, IMO. If it works for someone else, somehow, then cool beans.

As for Spoiled Strike, it adds FAR more than it takes away, I think. I've gained a lot more efficiency since getting it. Can't imagine a build without it. -20% speed isn't much with fast weapons, like my Zorens. 'though, I must admit, it is pretty noticeable on the Dakra, ... so, ... maybe I can lean towards your opinion on this. I'll try it wihtout, but that damage decrease is gonna hurt. What would I replace it with?

x4 damage? Everyone I've spoken to (some very experienced players at that) and various websites are all telling me x3.

[Vulbjorn]

Ah, yes. I was mistaken. It's x3. Also, "A slow (at least iwth Dervish, IMO)" with Spoiled Strike that adds far more than it takes away is kinda ... silly.
You could replace that Spoiled Strike with something like 90% elementary mod. Or Buzzkill.
Also, really, try once that crit build. You will be surprised how much that 24% actually procs.

Almost forgot, try that crit build on Zorens, but replace Buzzkill (or any elementary mod) with Spoiled strike and then look at numbers. And then take out Spoiled Strike and replace it with any mod.

In any case, I pointed out some things that make Dakra absolutely great for me. It is fast, powerful, looks good. If those things helped you - good. If that information is no use to you (or you consider it wrong) - I won't be forcing my opinion on you.