Banshee or Zephyr? (Causal newbie)

[𝕊𝕙𝕒𝕚𝕕𝕠𝕟]

I'm looking for a advice here, so let me give some idea about myself first. =)
I'm new to this game, and will probably play it casual. For now, I prefer to play only solo, and I'm having fun with my Mag playing it stealthly, although I barely use her powers.
My style of game is being defensive and go slow, so being support or stealthy. And in this game I want to play only with the female warframes.

So, here I'm, after spend some money to get platinum, I want to buy a new frame. Already have the blueprints for Trinity and Saryn, but I'm imagine that will take a long time to acquire it, and possible some stressful coop missions. But I'm undecided if will be Banshee or Zephyr.
Oh, btw, I prefer bows as main weapon.

[Sunless]

I just got zephyr, and i must the damage is quite ♥♥♥♥♥ on the 1-2-4th abity, but the fourth is good for CC. but i dont have any info on banshee, someone with banshee DUEL MEH

[Vulbjorn]

Banshee is insanely powerful BUT - she's kinda hard to play. She also requires specific builds and rare mods (her Resonance, for example). But she's the only frame in the game that is able to pull out numbers like 200-600k out of thin air. With any bow or sniper rifle type weapon Banshee able to bring insanely devastating damage - and if you have any means to transfer this damage to other mobs, like for example Nova in your team - it's pretty much game over.

Zephyr is very tanky, very mobile and is generally easy to play for me, at the same time being great help to the team. If you go with as much Duration and Range on her as poisslbe - all enemies in 70 range won't be able to shoot straigh to save their lives and all projectile damage in 10-20 range will get deflected. Straight up. Of course, I'm talking about her Turbulence.

For a newer player I'd recommend Zephyr. Though she's a bit harder to get because of Oxium requirement.

[TyresTyco]

^100% agreed but lemme add something to your zephyr text.

Her turbulence augment mod .. " Jetstream " increases while active projectille speed by 100%?! and sprint speed by 40% if I remember right.. for yourself and all your allies.

Its hella awesome ! Especially with a supra .. pew pew pew pew.
If you aim for zephy.. jetstream is IMHO a must.

But since Shaidon is more the slow paced player.. nevermind xD

Banshee fits the stealthy playstyle more but is fragile.. you need to use her powers kinda nonstop on later lvls (solo).

My advice.. aim for zephy.. learn the game. Get the mechanics and some knowledge.. banshee can wait ^^.

[Battleseed]

Originally posted by Vulbjorn, the walrus rider.:

Banshee is insanely powerful BUT - she's kinda hard to play. She also requires specific builds and rare mods (her Resonance, for example). But she's the only frame in the game that is able to pull out numbers like 200-600k out of thin air. With any bow or sniper rifle type weapon Banshee able to bring insanely devastating damage - and if you have any means to transfer this damage to other mobs, like for example Nova in your team - it's pretty much game over.

Zephyr is very tanky, very mobile and is generally easy to play for me, at the same time being great help to the team. If you go with as much Duration and Range on her as poisslbe - all enemies in 70 range won't be able to shoot straigh to save their lives and all projectile damage in 10-20 range will get deflected. Straight up. Of course, I'm talking about her Turbulence.

For a newer player I'd recommend Zephyr. Though she's a bit harder to get because of Oxium requirement.

^This

Banshee is a good frame, but Zephyr is amazing for all but infested since they don't shoot weapons. Doing melee is not recommended. Turbulance/Jet Stream build for range, durration and efficiency.

[Sugar Show]

I found zephyr only good for casual mission and play.

[Vulbjorn]

Originally posted by Sugar Show:

I found zephyr only good for casual mission and play.

Then you need to look deeper into her. No... not like that. Put her armor back on.
Search for Turbulence builds, or look her up on Youtube. You'll be impressed.

[Battleseed]

Originally posted by Sugar Show:

I found zephyr only good for casual mission and play.

Her powers and strengths are not as obvious as other frames. My current Zeph.
http://warframe-builder.com/Warframes/Builder/Zephyr/t_30_200030003_1-3-8-5-5-4-7-2-5-13-4-3-34-8-5-46-6-5-49-1-5-455-7-3-479-0-9_479-7-49-11-7-9-1-12-13-7-5-8-46-11-455-9-34-14_0/en/1-0-22

Turbulance is always up, Tail Wind can get you from A to B like Worm Hole, except it's only for you. Tornado for those o-sheet moments you need to CC.

Down side to her is the noise. Some people may not like it.

[𝕊𝕙𝕒𝕚𝕕𝕠𝕟]

Thanks for the replies, but I must say that I'm still in a crossroad here. The strong suggestion is to use Zephyr, because is more easy to use and survivability, but Banshee seems to fit more to the stealth gameplay. Hmmm... Decisions, decisions.

One more thing, should I also get the Shade sentinel?

[Battleseed]

Whatever you decide to go with, Do-Not-Buy-Warframes-With-Plat

[Miomazi]

Originally posted by Battleseed:

Banshee is a good frame, but Zephyr is amazing for all but infested since they don't shoot weapons.

I know almost no one actually likes this aug, but Divebomb Vortex, on top of being absolutely hilarious, makes for a rather effective CC against infested, and not only does it CC them, it (somewhat) groups them (somewhat) nicely together as well.

[Battleseed]

Originally posted by Miomazi:

Originally posted by Battleseed:

Banshee is a good frame, but Zephyr is amazing for all but infested since they don't shoot weapons.

I know almost no one actually likes this aug, but Divebomb Vortex, on top of being absolutely hilarious, makes for a rather effective CC against infested, and not only does it CC them, it (somewhat) groups them (somewhat) nicely together as well.

Actualy that does sound like it could be fun to use for the invasions on the starmap. Just for the lulz. Going to give it a try :)

[Serverus]

I am going to be the devil's advocate here, and argue for Banshee. I'll make a few points to show why:

• Sonic Boom is a useful ability to stagger large enemies, which gives you a moment to aim for vital spots and kill them quickly. And because of its general low-cost, you can use it over and over again.
  
• While she is statistically inferior to Zephyr in-terms of shield and health, she has a larger energy pool, which allows her to use her powers more often than Zephyr (this is, however, dependant on the build and the player)
  
• Her Silence ability stuns enemies AND lowers perception and tactical response. If you use this upon entering a new room, you can easily clear it of most, if not all, enemies within a few seconds until the effect runs-out. And if there are still enemies standing, use it again and finish them off.
  
• As pointed-out above, she is able to pull-off insane amounts of damage thanks to her Sonar ability. While this does require a little bit of precision with your weapons, this makes it much easier to down larger targets. If you combine this with Silence, you're golden.
  
• Banshee is easier to aquire. If you have a clan that has completed research on her component blueprints, she is easier to build because the materials required to build her are reminiscent of most other warframes.
  
• While she does require more specialized builds, she is easily one of the most desired support frames due to her effectiveness at making enemies easier to dispatch.
  
• Her effectiveness is not limited to the enemy faction. She is an overall useful support frame for any situation.

As an owner of both frames, I can vouch for them both; however, in-terms of overall support capabilities, i personally see Banshee as the superior support frame. If, however, you're looking for CC, then go for Zephyr.

[Miomazi]

Originally posted by ^1ETI|^9CrackerNugget:

I am going to be the devil's advocate here, and argue for Banshee. I'll make a few points to show why

Don't get me wrong, Banshee is my favourite Warframe, and by no small measure either. I've been in love with her since the first mission I had her for. Although, I think that with OP playing solo mainly, and being a self described casual newbie, Zephyr would be a much better choice.

Originally posted by Battleseed:

Originally posted by Miomazi:

I know almost no one actually likes this aug, but Divebomb Vortex, on top of being absolutely hilarious, makes for a rather effective CC against infested, and not only does it CC them, it (somewhat) groups them (somewhat) nicely together as well.

Actualy that does sound like it could be fun to use for the invasions on the starmap. Just for the lulz. Going to give it a try :)

It's totally worth the lulz. The lulz were so plenty, that the mod has a near permanent place on my Zephyr XD. But in all seriousness, the aug isn't as bad as it's made out to be, it helps get stray enemies up into a tornado, and is pretty effective with high density crowds.

[Djzzy]

Banshee in my opinion is very Fragile, but very deadly, with snipers and sonar, its 1 hit KO everything. Her #4 is really a suicide button, useless by it self. But with a team, you basically stun everything around you as long as you have energy, however you can't shoot with it on. 1 is Great to ragdoll stuff out of your way, everytime I do it in my head I'm like: Get OUTTA HERE BRO!!!

Zephyr though is really Fun and good all around. Zephyr can fly across the map. Use turbulance to redirect projectiles. But more importantly is her Tornadoes, when those comes every enemy around you will be up in the air unable to do anything.

Both these frames has low armor. However banshee has basically no defense abilities, so you are out of luck if you are spotted. In my game time, I had never killed one Stalker with my Banshee solo, but I have killed the Stalker multiple times with Zephyr solo, almost too easy on Zephyr.

I really liked my Banshee(Where is my Banshee PRIME!!!!! >:O) But, Banshee is more suited towards team play than solo, Zephyr really is kind of a Jack of all trades frame.

As for sentinels, Shade is alright for sleath play. But for me carrier forever!!! I just can't live without my Carrier EVER!!!

[𝕊𝕙𝕒𝕚𝕕𝕠𝕟]

I can't buy the blueprint for both frames, that is why I'm thinking into buying one of them with plat. Because I have only Mag now. I know that most of it can be acquired with time and effort, but like I said, I'm newbie, and will be playing it casually. Clans is serious business.

The wiki say "blueprint can be purchased from the Tenno Lab interface in the Dojo once it has been researched." For me this an alien language. I have the market and finished the first 2 story missions. And right now I'm trying to unlock missions from the planets avaliable and see how to get Plastids and Nano Spores to forge my Paris, since I'm still using the MK ones. XD